Advice on mid-high gaming build

Niizz

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Approx purchase date: No rush, can buy today but if prices are due to decrease rapidly or something new come on the market I can wait.

Budge range: No real strict limit, although from my browsing what I want should be around the £1000-£1600 range but can go higher, I mainly want value for money and don't want to spend a fortune getting things I don't need.

System usage: I use two screens, one to game(SC2, WoW, World of Tanks, Skyrim, (many more but non fps games) and one to watch streams, I also like to have multiple games open, explorers, voice coms, streams and tab back and forth which my current budget build can't handle without slowing down on multiple ends so I need something that can do a fair bit more multitasking without decreasing system speed and quality.

Buying monitor: Yes I am replacing my second screen, this is already decided and will be a Dell Ultrasharp U2412M 24 inch IPS Widescreen LED Monitor to match my existing main monitor.

Parts to upgrade:
I'm switching from AMD to Intel so most of it.

CPU
Mobo
RAM
GPU
Case
PSU
Thermal compound (never bought this stuff for my basic rigs I've made but I think this time I will need it)
New Win 7 as using OEM version

Parts not upgrading:
Optical drive
Peripherals (Mouse, keyboard)

Optional
Separate cooling?
Storage - I currently use 128gb ssd and a hdd but am repeatedly running out of space on the ssd. I'm considering buying a second ssd at 256gb, although in my "research" I found some mobos are able to do some workaround with ssd + hdd combo and retain high speed on commonly used programs. Advice appreciated.

Overclocking: Willing to buy something already overclocked with a warranty, wont do it myself.

I don't think I need SLI but if you think I may do please advise.

Resolution: 1920x1080 is my current usage which is as far as this will go.

I am in the UK, no preferred site so recommendations are welcome. Although I built my previous rigs I am uneducated in the world of pc parts further than putting the bits I previously got together, if I get stuck I'll call the phoneline and get the makers to help. I don't mind paying a premium on getting someone like Aria, Overclockers or PCSpecialist putting something together (don't know of any other competitors). The dvd drive is no issue for me to do but I don't know if they'll insist on me buying storage if I order (might be irrelevant if buying a new ssd is what guy guys recommend)

My current build has had some issues with overheating and shutting itself down, I want something that'll run quickly and smoothly, has efficient cooling and is not noisy, the fans in this thing are fairly okay but I don't want an increase in noise

My current rig for reference:
AMD Athlon II X3 445 3.1 GHz - Socket AM3 1.5 MB
Asrock M3A770DE 770 Socket AM3 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Blu Memory
Sapphire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card
SunBeam Freezing Storm Black Case - No PSU
Be Quiet 530W Pure Power PSU
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Current considerations:
I looked rather closely at only two real areas, the rest of the options seemed rather many.
CPU: Intel i5 4670k or better if required
GPU: Geforce GTX 780 - possibly overclocked from EVGA.

Few builds that I suspect might meet my needs, please advise if any of these are what I need(including if I do or don't need the storage) and if they can be updated with better(per £) or cheaper stuff

Build 1
CPU Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card
Case Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Build 2 - possible pre-build option from aria - I don't know if I can call them and get things changed like the RAM seems a bit pointless as a sidegrade. Also not sure which build the graphics card would be which could be important (advice please - if I build it myself I'd look at ASUS/EVGA)
GLADIATOR Gaming i5-Predator GTX 780 4.40GHz Overclocked 4670K
• Overclocking: Intel Core i5 professionally Overclocked to 4.40GHz from 3.40GHz included in the price - Optimised GLADIATOR Overclock profile saved in the PCs BIOS
• CPU: 4th Generation Intel Core (Haswell) i5-4670K Quad-Core Unlocked Processor
• Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB GDDR5 DirectX 11 Graphics
• RAM: 8GB (2x4096MB) 1600MHz DDR3 Dual-Channel Memory (32GB Max. Supported)
• Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H Intel Z87 Express Chipset Motherboard
• Cooler: Corsair Hydro H80i Watercooling Closed-Loop CPU Cooler
• HD Audio: High Definition Audio
• Case: Corsair 600TM Graphite Black Midi Tower Gaming Case
• PSU: 750W Corsair Builder Series CX750M 80PLUS Bronze Modular Power Supply
• Optical Drive: LiteOn DVDRW Dual Layer DVD Rewriter (m-Disk Support) 24x DVD±R
• SSD: 256GB Toshiba SATA 6GB/s (SATA-III) Solid State Drive
• HDD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6GB/s (SATA-III) Hard Drive
• Operating System: No Pre-installed OS or software
• Included Full 12 Month Collect & Returns Warranty

Build 3 - possible pre build from overclockers - not really supposed to use links I know but kinda stuck on some parts - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/syscon_int.php?prodid=FS-387-OE

OcUK Silent Gamer S60i Intel Z87 Silent Tower - Gaming PC Configurator
Stage 1 OC: Overclock CPU to 4.2GHz - K Edition Processors Only
Intel Core i5 4670 K Edition 3.4GHz Haswell Quad Core
Akasa Nero 3 V2 Premier CPU Cooler - Up to Stage 1 Overclock
Mobo ?
Memory ?
Gfx Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Windforce 3X OC 3072MB GDDR5 Graphics Card - [add £241.63]
Samsung 840 Evo Series 250GB Solid State Drive?
PSU ?
WIn 7 64 bit
Other cooling?
Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" Widescreen LED Monitor

Please reply with as much information as possible, all advice very much appreciated!!
 

Thewhitepanther

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i think build 2 looks like the best option i have bought my pc from them and recomend them id improve the processor to a i7 if youve got lots of spare cash however if nots its fine
on the keyboard and mouse id recommend getting a logitech g300s as they are not that expensive and are used my many youtubers however if you want lots of buttons for mmos razer do a special mmo mouse think its called the naga but not sure (look on ebuyer)
the keyboard doesnt really matter that much but what ever you pick check up on reviews first hope you pick this as a solution
sorry for bad grammar not my strong point.
 

Niizz

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Thanks man! I have razer deathadder and blackwidow which are working great for me so no upgrades on those ends. Any particular processor you recommend?
 

TheMohammadmo

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BUILD 1 definetly. In all of the other build options, they are giving you lower end parts. So what if it is "professionally overclocked" The hundred's of thousands of random people that overclock their computer are not smart then. go with build 1, you are getting the best parts and the best quality out of your money
 

Thewhitepanther

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id recommend a i7-4770K and on the point about overclocking its not hard but if you a gamer not someone who has a career in computing it can seem daunting. in reality they are a big retailer so there overclocking will be top notch
 

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I'm leaning towards build 1 at the moment, should I get the 256mb ssd aswell as I can't find any notes about ssd caching on that mobo,

Is there any specific thermal compound recommended? (I assume this is the stuff you put on the CPU before you put the heatsink on it).

Lastly will the cooling be sufficient or are there any extras I should consider(that aren't very noisy!)?
 

Niizz

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Okay finalising the build a bit more, I've been advised not to OC the cpu, to go Ti version on the gfx will suit my needs better and I've also been advised to go for a cooler master haf case...i forget the number

CPU Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £250
CPU Cooler Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £95
GPU either EVGA Nvidia GTX 780Ti SC 3GB 384-bit Graphics Card or EVGA NVIDIA GTX 780Ti SC 3GB DDR5 PCI-E Graphics Card with ACX Cooler £570 or £660
Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Motherboard £135
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory £150
Power Supply Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £120

Total: £1320 (+ Monitor, OS, Case, maybe ssd, maybe cooling (e.g. gpu with acx cooling))
Things I still need help with:
*Still unsure about getting the ssd
*not sure if the change in spec affects cooling reqs either, seems my options are to get some cheap extra fans or go with the acx cooler on the gpu, please advise on both :)
*should i stick with the build 1 case or get a cooler master haf case?

Thanks a lot guys for all the help so far, I really appreciate it.
 

Niizz

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Thanks a lot TheMohammadmo you've really helped me out, going to order tomorrow;

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2xkga

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (w/ acx and SC)
Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Major bits done just got 2 minor(ish) questions

1. Should I get thermal paste? If so I'll go for http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-silver-thermal-paste-as535g

2. Some reviews say the H110 stock fans are a bit noisy, I keep the pc under the desk and don't mind if it's just a quiet hum but I don't want it to be irritatingly noisy, if I start with the stock fans installed and find it irritating is it tricky to get it out and replace the stock fans post-build or should I just replace them beforehand? I can see a number of people have replaced them postbuild but I don't know (just quite yet) how much of a pain it is to do.
If I replace them I've seen http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfa14pwm (x2 ofc) as the most common solution.
 

TheMohammadmo

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No to get rid of the fans isn't really a big problem. The only thing you need to do is unscrew, remove, and replace. Yes you need thermal paste for sure. I don't know if it is included with the corsair h110 but you should definitely get thermal paste. Go with the thermal paste that you linked. That is the thermal paste that I personally have. Also man, I hope you enjoy your build, and if you ever coming to a stopping point during the build and don't know what to do, just send me a message.