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stickg1
January 14, 2014 4:20:25 PM
This is an open thread to discuss on-going projects, completed builds, projected builds, quick hardware questions, or the discussion of all of the above. Pictures and discussion are not only allowed, but encouraged. Not to undermine the already existing Tom's Hardware Member System Gallery, a great thread, but respected as a gallery only. The concept of this thread is to openly allow further discussion.
Feel free to post pictures of your PC, comment on other's handy work, and ask questions about your proposed builds or seek suggestions on how you or others can improve.
If you need a lot of help, for example, with an entire build or extensive upgrade, please start a question thread following the format from this sticky: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...
You are more than welcome to post a link to your thread here in this thread.
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Feel free to post pictures of your PC, comment on other's handy work, and ask questions about your proposed builds or seek suggestions on how you or others can improve.
If you need a lot of help, for example, with an entire build or extensive upgrade, please start a question thread following the format from this sticky: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...
You are more than welcome to post a link to your thread here in this thread.
As always, Tom's ToC and user agreement apply. Quote walls and quoting several pictures are discouraged as it's improper forum etiquette. If responding to another user, simply spoiler or delete the photos from the quoted post, or simply mention the user's name at the beginning of your response and continue discussion.
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stickg1
January 14, 2014 4:38:21 PM
RussK1
January 14, 2014 4:49:39 PM


And Computer in the Metro!

HAFX Blue Edition | i7-3770K (4.5GHz 1.26v) | ASRock Z77 Extreme 9 |H100 | 16GB Vengeance 12800 CL9 | Intel 7260HMW 802.11AC | Gigabyte GTX 780 WF3 | Asus Xonar Essence STX | Samsung SyncMaster 2494LW | OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD | 1.5TB WD Green (media) | 3TB WD Green EZRX (Networked drive with movies) | 2 TOSHIBA PH3200U-1I72 2TB RAID0 (strictly for games) | 1TB FreeAgent GoFlex (for realtime backups of sentimental data) | LG Super multi-blue | HX1050 | Razer Deathadder 2013 | Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 | Razer Goliathus Fragged Speed Edition | Windows 7 Pro
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stickg1
January 14, 2014 4:51:40 PM
RussK1
January 14, 2014 5:43:39 PM
stickg1
January 14, 2014 5:57:49 PM
Yeah but I feel like pastel will draw too much attention away from the rest of the build. I have to drain soon anyway and refill with a coolant that has corrosion inhibitor since all my blocks are nickel plated and all my rads are copper. I've seen to many people have corrosion issues with that setup. Which is inevitable, but with a decent inhibitor instead of a couple months it would take a couple of years. The pastel would accomplish this, but I'm thinking of getting a clear base and dying it a little more purple-ish. Purple/violet is a complementary color to yellow (high school art class
) and I think it will look really nice while not drawing too much attention.
I'm already jotting ideas down for changes I want to make. I was thinking of getting that new Phanteks case, but I do kind of like having a mid-tower size so I'm not sure on that yet.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's expensive too but not nearly as bad as the Case Labs equipment that seems to be so popular lately.
) and I think it will look really nice while not drawing too much attention.I'm already jotting ideas down for changes I want to make. I was thinking of getting that new Phanteks case, but I do kind of like having a mid-tower size so I'm not sure on that yet.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's expensive too but not nearly as bad as the Case Labs equipment that seems to be so popular lately.
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Christopher Gonzalez
January 14, 2014 8:18:38 PM
Nice rig Stick!!! I'm glad you started this thread, I get that people want to keep their gallery clean of off topic conversation and all, but honestly, I think it's all just a forum and no big deal... However, forgive me if I missed something in the other System Gallery that was inappropriate and that's what everyone was going off about...
I'll be posting pics of my first build soon!
I'll be posting pics of my first build soon!
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Mirakledba
January 14, 2014 11:48:45 PM
stickg1
January 15, 2014 4:29:28 AM
MDXX said:
Thank goodness a thread i can post questions and not have to worry about being banned!Nice build dude! Lil one is going to be hooked on building soon
heres mine, a few weeks old now. Cable management needs to be improved alot but cables were stiff and didnt feel like bothering with it much. When i upgrade my GPU this summer ill probably tidy it up more
Upgrades in the near future: CM Hyper 212 Evo and 3 Corsair SP case fans
Definitely get the CPU cooler. I find that those SP120 fans are best for pushing through radiators, heatsinks, or really thick dust filters. They can be pretty loud too as they were made to produce high static pressure. I use them on all of my radiators but I have to turn them down because 6 of them together is pretty loud. The AF120's conversely are designed for better raw airflow while being quieter. If using them as case fans that would be my choice. Here's a link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Thanks for the comments on my build. It's still a work in progress, probably will be for a while. I want to make my own sleeved cable extensions and perhaps modify the case to just use a 360mm rad up top and a thicker 240mm rad up front. Who knows, I might end up getting a bigger case to fit for rads all together.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 4:36:23 AM
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 4:38:19 AM
Love the rules of this thread. A quick hardware question. Whats the best 50-55 dollars CPU cooler, Liquid or air, that doesnt take up too much space (i have a fractal 4 (Didnt build the PC yet) and there is lots of space but something that isnt TOO big, if so, it can be big as long as it looks cool) Something that could OC a 4670k to 4.5ghz? Thanks.
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stickg1
January 15, 2014 5:06:05 AM
Mirakledba said:
Love the rules of this thread. A quick hardware question. Whats the best 50-55 dollars CPU cooler, Liquid or air, that doesnt take up too much space (i have a fractal 4 (Didnt build the PC yet) and there is lots of space but something that isnt TOO big, if so, it can be big as long as it looks cool) Something that could OC a 4670k to 4.5ghz? Thanks.This is the best sub $50 cooler I have ever used, the Prolimatech Panther.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I was using it before I got my loop put together, I had two of those Corsair SP120's on it in push/pull, it wasn't far off from having a waterblock on my 3570K. With water I'm maybe 8C-10C cooler than I was with this heatsink. I'm actually looking to sell it if you're interested. My only complaint on it, is the stock fan is a little underwhelming and the mounting brackets only seem to work with a box style fan. To mount my Corsair fans I had to use ratchet ties...
This isn't the best picture of it because I took the pic to show my ghetto rigged cooling solution for the R9 290. But here it is..
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RussK1
January 15, 2014 5:10:42 AM
Mirakledba said:
StickG1- A bigger case and moving this all there might be too much work? If you're going for it, get the Corsair 750D. Things a BEAST. Love the blue liquid and keep it up man. Its like PC p0rn xD. RussK1- Showing a man how to be bigger of a man at a young age xD I suggest BF4 not COD
No doubt BF... CoD has it's moments when one wants to be goofy.
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Whats the best 50-55 dollars CPU coolerI'd say a closed loop cooler. Simply because the tech has gotten better and that weight being added to the board is avoided. Just be sure to get a cooler that doesn't block the boards VRM's.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 5:21:57 AM
stickg1
January 15, 2014 5:58:34 AM
RussK1
January 15, 2014 6:21:14 AM
Mirakledba said:
Russk1- Could you please mention a closed loop? Should i save up a tad more and get an H60 because i want an H100i but an H60 is OK i guess...will it get me up to 4.5GHZ?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 6:36:28 AM
stickg1
January 15, 2014 9:09:41 AM
Overclocking is basically just trial and error. Start by raising the multiplier and running a stress test like Intel Burn Test or Prime95 to check for errors. If it fails, you need to raise the voltage. If it passes try raising the multiplier again. Be sure to monitor your temps throughout the process. You don't want that chip going much over 90C but I would try to keep it under 85C for good measure.
Start with manual voltage around 1.2v and adjust as needed in small increments.
Start with manual voltage around 1.2v and adjust as needed in small increments.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 9:16:06 AM
Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 11:35:52 AM
Onus - I think i wont be using the other one anymore...This is a great thread. kudos to StickG1. I have a question for you Onus, Should i get an H100i, 120GB samsung EVO SSD, two SP120 fans and like a mechanical keyboard or gaming mouse. OR a monitor and a gaming mouse....I have the acer X223W. Thats 1680by1050 so its HD but not 1080p. Should i stick with it? I didnt build my PC yet but i will in a few weeks so i could put windows on the SSD. Monitor would be a dell s2440l. Tell me what you think. Im really stressed about this.
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stickg1
January 15, 2014 11:37:01 AM
Mirakledba said:
StickG1- I mean like i said, I am getting a 200$ monitor and i have an acer x223w. Should i stick with it for a few months and GET : h100i , 120GB SSD, two SP120fans and a gaming mouse or keyboard or just get a monitor and a mouse...I could do that...
What would you do?
That's tough. It looks like you have a nice GPU. Is your monitor, keyboard, or mouse really holding you back? I'm huge on SSDs but it's hard to justify really. It's really just a luxury, not a necessity. Same with nice peripherals. CPU cooling is paramount to me. I would get a nice CPU cooler first and foremost. Then if your mouse or keyboard is really bothering you at the moment pick up one of those too. SSDs are great IMO, and there's a killer deal on a Sandisk 128GB for $70 right now on Newegg.
Onus said:
A discussion thread like this one with relaxed rules is a good idea.Thanks for the support Joe. There was a lot of tension in the gallery and I'm hoping this thread can alleviate some of that. Also if people can recognize and follow the rules, it should be much less work for the mods constantly cleaning up peoples discussions in the Gallery.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 11:46:00 AM
stickG1 - I think its clear that cooling is paramount to you
my keyboard it FINE FOR NOW. its like an INTEX and my mouse is an M325....by logitech. So Im just looking for a final answer here
Pick a combo :3
Combo 1: H100i, 120GB EVO SSD, SP120's, G400s or Razer naga hex moba
Combo 2: Dell S2440L monitor, G400s mouse
Combo 3: Big mac with fires
Also be sure to look up my monitor, the acer x223w and tell me if its good enough for a few months. Thanks! Gtg to bed soon.
my keyboard it FINE FOR NOW. its like an INTEX and my mouse is an M325....by logitech. So Im just looking for a final answer here
Pick a combo :3Combo 1: H100i, 120GB EVO SSD, SP120's, G400s or Razer naga hex moba
Combo 2: Dell S2440L monitor, G400s mouse
Combo 3: Big mac with fires
Also be sure to look up my monitor, the acer x223w and tell me if its good enough for a few months. Thanks! Gtg to bed soon.
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nutmanmatt
January 15, 2014 11:53:26 AM
Good job with this new thread stickg1 thought I would post my build here as well her name is Iris
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Case:NZXT H2 classic
motherboard: biostar TA990FXE
CPU:FX-8320 which will be overclocked once I get new thermal paste and cooled with corsair H70
Ram: 8GB DDR3 at 1600mhz
GPU:MSI 7950 OC which is heavily overclocked.
PSU: OZC 750 watt
x2 500GB HDD
She turned out nicely considering almost all of the parts I bought on sale so was actually rather cheap to build.




Case:NZXT H2 classic
motherboard: biostar TA990FXE
CPU:FX-8320 which will be overclocked once I get new thermal paste and cooled with corsair H70
Ram: 8GB DDR3 at 1600mhz
GPU:MSI 7950 OC which is heavily overclocked.
PSU: OZC 750 watt
x2 500GB HDD
She turned out nicely considering almost all of the parts I bought on sale so was actually rather cheap to build.
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RussK1
January 15, 2014 11:57:50 AM
Mirakledba said:
stickG1 - I think its clear that cooling is paramount to you
my keyboard it FINE FOR NOW. its like an INTEX and my mouse is an M325....by logitech. So Im just looking for a final answer here
Pick a combo :3Combo 1: H100i, 120GB EVO SSD, SP120's, G400s or Razer naga hex moba
Combo 2: Dell S2440L monitor, G400s mouse
Combo 3: Big mac with fires
Also be sure to look up my monitor, the acer x223w and tell me if its good enough for a few months. Thanks! Gtg to bed soon.
I'd pick Combo 1.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 12:07:05 PM
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 12:15:57 PM
RussK1
January 15, 2014 12:26:21 PM
Mirakledba said:
RussK1 - I agree...thats what i want. Have you searched up my monitor? Could you last with it for a few months? Also, I like how you and STICKG1 have a close name. K1 and G1
also, what 70$ max MOUSE do you recommend? Some dont ship to the UAE..I want the steel series rival but that doesnt ship.
Mirakledba said:
I just feel like with such an awesome PC i would want to see 1080pIt's 1680x1050 so you're not far off and you're not missing much.
Mouse? I'd opt for the Deathadder.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 12:30:19 PM
stickg1
January 15, 2014 12:34:58 PM
Well you do need a monitor but it sounds like you need quite a few things. Since you already have a working monitor,it would make sense to me for you to get all the stuff that you don't have right now. You can upgrade your monitor later as you save up.
Doesn't the H100i come with something like the SP120's anyway?
Doesn't the H100i come with something like the SP120's anyway?
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 12:38:53 PM
patrick47018
January 15, 2014 12:45:40 PM
Mirakledba, Any are good choices, but I personally would rather have a nice monitor and mouse, and later on OC when the time comes when I need to, I mean there isn't anything you are going to be using your computer for that you really need that OC on the CPU is there? But in the end it is up to you, either way you go has its pros and cons, so whatever you think, personally I would go monitor and mouse. But getting the things you need to OC can be beneficial as well, whatever you want more, OC'd CPU or better visuals from a nice monitor. Like I said I can't make decisions for you, so what are you thinking?
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 12:48:53 PM
This is the man I said was helping me for months so I really trust his opinions but I am still deciding which I want because my monitor now is still HD and I could've last with it for a few months I really want to the CPU cooler and the SSD as they look really cool and will help a lot. Still tough as THR s2440l would make it look better but 1050 to 1080 P isn't a big difference although I will be buying a 1080 p monitor In thrthr future if I dont get one Now so don't worry but a few more pixels are much better but that or more performance..I'm sure we would all go for the performance
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azzazel_99
January 15, 2014 12:57:41 PM
I'm not a madd overclocker like Stick. I'd go for the bigger monitor. I've been happy with inexpensive Logitech mice; none of them have given me any grief. I get models with tilt wheels, because I like the functions I can give it in some of my games. I also would not build a system for myself without a SSD. Liquid cooling is too expensive for the limited performance benefits you get out of it. A custom loop looks great, but is that what you most want, or do you want great performance overall?
For mild to moderate overclocks, a decent but inexpensive air cooler like the Xigmatek Gaia (usuall a little cheaper and a little better than the more often parroted Hyper212 EVO) will be sufficient; it's in the $32-$36 range.
For mild to moderate overclocks, a decent but inexpensive air cooler like the Xigmatek Gaia (usuall a little cheaper and a little better than the more often parroted Hyper212 EVO) will be sufficient; it's in the $32-$36 range.
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RussK1
January 15, 2014 1:47:30 PM
MDXX said:
Mirakledba said:
Onus - I think i wont be using the other one anymore...This is a great thread. kudos to StickG1. I have a question for you Onus, Should i get an H100i, 120GB samsung EVO SSD, two SP120 fans and like a mechanical keyboard or gaming mouse. OR a monitor and a gaming mouse....I have the acer X223W. Thats 1680by1050 so its HD but not 1080p. Should i stick with it? I didnt build my PC yet but i will in a few weeks so i could put windows on the SSD. Monitor would be a dell s2440l. Tell me what you think. Im really stressed about this.I wouldnt even bother with the other thread. Dont want to be threatened with the ban hammer for asking a question!
BACK on topic. If i get a 1440P Monitor can i still play 1080p on it? Or will 1080p look messed up on it?
It would be fine.
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While this is a great idea for discussion, the actual "official" thread is at the top of this forum: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/310222-31-hardware-me...
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stickg1
January 15, 2014 2:23:13 PM
Breaking of rules in any section can lead to a ban; some threads are more specific than others and have tighter rules, but the concept remains the same. For example, personal insults, flaming, trolling, spamming, etc. are never tolerated anywhere. Even the News & Leisure section has provoked bans.
Anyway, I believe any LCD monitor will look fuzzy at anything other than its native resolution (or possibly multiples thereof? not sure...).
Anyway, I believe any LCD monitor will look fuzzy at anything other than its native resolution (or possibly multiples thereof? not sure...).
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stickg1
January 15, 2014 2:44:30 PM
Informing people that there are rules, and consequences for breaking them, is hardly a threat. Some Moderators are not as lenient as others. For example, 99% of the stains on my banhammer are from spammers. I have discovered, however, that patience is like gasoline; as long as any at all is left, the machine runs. When it's gone, however, the machine stops.
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MDXX said:
g-unit1111 said:
While this is a great idea for discussion, the actual "official" thread is at the top of this forum: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/310222-31-hardware-me...Yeah and the "official" thread has threats of being banned. Who wants to post there? Why do you think we flocked to this topic?
Whoa, chill out here. Nobody threatened anybody with being banned here. I was just politely pointing out that we already have this topic of discussion.
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azzazel_99
January 15, 2014 5:32:06 PM
stickg1
January 15, 2014 5:47:57 PM
azzazel_99 said:
Ahh ok here are a few of mine...I need to take better ones but its my baby!Msi p67a-gd65[b3]
Intel i5-2500k
8gb gskill ram
Cooler Master Haf X
Cooler Master 212 evo
Corsair Hx850
Evga Gtx 780ti classified
Sound Blaster Z
Need a ssd still so im currently shopping for a good one.
I'm not sure what your budget is or what country your in but Newegg had a shell shocker on one of the Sandisk 128GB drives today for $69.99. It's not their fastest model but still a great deal.
@MDXX - see how I put the pictures in a spoiler? Please try to do that next time. I want this thread to be more relaxed, but there is a such a thing as forum etiquette. Quoting several pictures that were just posted is frowned upon. Maybe you didn't know, but now you do.
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azzazel_99
January 15, 2014 6:26:05 PM
stickg1
January 15, 2014 6:26:40 PM
Oh okay, you're not just new to this forum, you're new to forums in general. That's cool, check out these images.
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Of course simply deleting the pictures from your quote would also be perfectly acceptable. As well as just addressing the user you are responding to by mentioning his or her username at the beginning of your post.
All three of these methods are considered proper forum etiquette.


Of course simply deleting the pictures from your quote would also be perfectly acceptable. As well as just addressing the user you are responding to by mentioning his or her username at the beginning of your post.
All three of these methods are considered proper forum etiquette.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 9:36:04 PM
Christopher Gonzalez
January 15, 2014 10:03:04 PM
azzazel_99 said:
Ahh ok here are a few of mine...I need to take better ones but its my baby!Msi p67a-gd65[b3]
Intel i5-2500k
8gb gskill ram
Cooler Master Haf X
Cooler Master 212 evo
Corsair Hx850
Evga Gtx 780ti classified
Sound Blaster Z
Need a ssd still so im currently shopping for a good one.
How's the 780 ti? I'm debating it or a 790. I'm worried I'll run into VRAM bottlenecks at 4k with next gen games with the 780 ti, and I hear the 790 will have 5 GB of VRAM for each GK110 chip.
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Christopher Gonzalez
January 15, 2014 10:05:21 PM
Mirakledba said:
Onus - So an ssd and the dell S2440l. How's that monitor? I just dont know how Im going to get cash As im 14 and Used it on the PC XD Its 333$ That I have but i cant really spend over 250 cause the shipping. LOL I'm 13 and I just built my rig in the sig, too. Lucky, I got a gig that I can get some cash to upgrade from my 660.
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Mirakledba
January 15, 2014 10:07:38 PM
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Pus, i dont want anything refurbished. So is there a SHORT video on how to OC a 4670k? 

