Athlon x4 750k vs g3220 for budget gaming rig

I'm rebuilding an old dell inspiron 530, and I upgraded my case to rosewill ranger m, and upgraded my Psu to cx430. I also have a gt 630 4gb (upgrade in summer to gtx 660). Right now I am debating between msi a75ma-e35 and the h81-p33 and the x4 750k vs pentium g3320. If I get the athlon, there is nothing too much I can later to, but with the pentium, next Christmas I can upgrade my CPU to an i3 4130 or some i5. Will the g3320 be really slow, I currently have a core 2 duo e4440, and yeah. I don't have enough at the moment to get an i3 (I'm 13). Can you recommend the parts please.
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  1. Check out this chart: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
    I would normally recommend a Phenom II x4 on an AM3+ board but they're starting to get really hard to find for cheap. That Pentium will be fine for a 630 but it's going to bottleneck a 660 pretty hard which I guess won't really be a problem when you upgrade your CPU again but just thought you should know.
  2. A pentium G will be faster than your Core 2. A Haswell Pentium G would be roughly on par with an E8400 @ 4.0ghz. I would spend the extra $6 and get the Pentium G 3240. Gives you an extra 200mhz. Given how low end of a chip we are talking, I fell it is worth the added cost.
  3. Why not get the athlon and overclock it to 4ghz, quad core
  4. There is no real upgrade path going with the 750k. Kaveri was a letdown. What is your current motherboard?
  5. Dell Inspiron 530 is going to be 775 socket.
  6. logainofhades said:
    There is no real upgrade path going with the 750k. Kaveri was a letdown. What is your current motherboard?


    Foxconn g33m02, getting tired of that dell splash screen :/
    I can get a whole new mobo and CPU next year via my parents
  7. mace200200 said:
    Dell Inspiron 530 is going to be 775 socket.


    Yep, you are right. Fm2 vs 1150, the 1150 , the pentium will be a bottnwck for around a year, though. I can get the fm2, overclock it, and get a good motherboard and good CPU next year.
  8. I'm a big fan of the AMD APU's. An A10 will cost you less than $150 and your good for just about any games out there including BF4 (not maxed out though) without a dedicated card. Then you can add a discrete card later and the CPU will handle it well enough.
  9. mace200200 said:
    I'm a big fan of the AMD APU's. An A10 will cost you less than $150 and your good for just about any games out there including BF4 (not maxed out though) without a dedicated card. Then you can add a discrete card later and the CPU will handle it well enough.


    I can buy my x4 750k, in 4 months buy gtx 660 , any next year but an fm3+ and a 8350 or a 7850k. I prefer dedicated in my purposes.
  10. I agree Kavari was a letdown...hmmm....can you possibly spring for at least a haswell i3 cpu? Or fx 6300+ am3+ mobo?

    the haswell pentium would be pretty stout, I just don't think it would do that good in current games like bf4,etc. For single player probably fine, but I doubt multiplayer would play that good
  11. How about the x4? And also, which should I get, radeon 7870 or 7850 or 660 or r9 270
  12. WhiteSnake91 said:
    I agree Kavari was a letdown...hmmm....can you possibly spring for at least a haswell i3 cpu? Or fx 6300+ am3+ mobo?

    the haswell pentium would be pretty stout, I just don't think it would do that good in current games like bf4,etc. For single player probably fine, but I doubt multiplayer would play that good


    Watch this video:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGE4i_A6E4
    X4 and 290x runs bf4 ultra no problem at 1080p
  13. avoid the pentium g3220, i have it and with my hd 7850 it is laggy on very game, even old black ops, get a quad core 750k, overclockable to around 4.2ghz.
  14. Keep in mind that using both of these CPUs to game isn't ideal. That being said, I have to go to the G3220. Pentiums peform well given its $60 price tag(!). The Athlon II X4 750k will fare better in games but it doesn't have an upgrade path.
  15. Lessthannil said:
    Keep in mind that using both of these CPUs to game isn't ideal. That being said, I have to go to the G3220. Pentiums peform well given its $60 price tag(!). The Athlon II X4 750k will fare better in games but it doesn't have an upgrade path.


    Haha, my upgrade path will be replacing the damn thing! Lol, keep in mind this is a temporary build (8-11 motnhs) just when I make the upgrade in end of 2014 I will get cx600 and an i5 and some nice asus mobo
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  16. Yes, but you could re-use the motherboard that the G3220 used for that i5.
  17. Lessthannil said:
    Yes, but you could re-use the motherboard that the G3220 used for that i5.


    But would it be worth having the pentium for so long?
  18. Depends on how paitent you are with dealing with the Pentium's speed, or the lack thereof.

    Its going to be significantly faster than your old Core 2 Duo, keep that in mind still.
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  19. Buy a cheap G3240, wait till you have about $250 to spend on CPU and drop in a Xeon 1230 v3/aka poor man's i7. :D
  20. Pcbuilder123 said:
    Lessthannil said:
    Yes, but you could re-use the motherboard that the G3220 used for that i5.


    But would it be worth having the pentium for so long?


    New motherboards often mean the need for new copy of Windows as well.
  21. Don't know if any of you are still around, but ended up doing a full rebuild :).
  22. what did you end up going with, the Pentium?
  23. WhiteSnake91 said:
    what did you end up going with, the Pentium?


    Nope, decided to go for a fx4300 and a ga78lmt-usb3. Now, I can later go for something like a 8320.
    Fx4300 @4.1ghz
    Hyper tx3
    ga78lmt-usb3
    2tb seagate green
    buying a 120gb pny ssd in the next week or two
    cx430 v2
    rosewill ranger m (upgrading to a new case, probably to a coolermaster n200)
    2gb asus 7770
    Can you help me chose a 40-55ish $ case?
  24. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $49.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-17 19:16 EDT-0400
  25. logainofhades said:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $49.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-17 19:16 EDT-0400

    Seems like such a great case, and I have considered it,but I have a bit of a sad space situation... Here is a picture of my setup, and don't have too much space on my desk. The little wooden piece above my pc is removable, except I woud need to move the whole wooden thing to the left. Here's a pic to let you know what I mean. The floor is carpeted, and my dog is always down there, so I like it on my desk.

    The obsidian 350d is out of my price range, and it 16inches tall.
  26. the Corsair 200r is nice, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018

    or Fractal Design Core 1000, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032

    or NZXT Source 210, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075

    210 Windowed version, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146102

    210 White version, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146133

    DIYPC Solar-M1-G Black/Green, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353025

    Rosewill Redbone looks pretty cool, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147159

    Thermaltake V4, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133179

    Thermaltake V3, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

    Enermax Ostrog, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811124150

    This Corsair looks cool in a weird way :P http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139041
  27. Pcbuilder123 said:
    logainofhades said:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $49.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-17 19:16 EDT-0400

    Seems like such a great case, and I have considered it,but I have a bit of a sad space situation... Here is a picture of my setup, and don't have too much space on my desk. The little wooden piece above my pc is removable, except I woud need to move the whole wooden thing to the left. Here's a pic to let you know what I mean. The floor is carpeted, and my dog is always down there, so I like it on my desk.

    The obsidian 350d is out of my price range, and it 16inches tall.


    Work is blocking the pic. :(
  28. WhiteSnake91 said:
    the Corsair 200r is nice, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018

    or Fractal Design Core 1000, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032

    or NZXT Source 210, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075

    210 Windowed version, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146102

    210 White version, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146133

    DIYPC Solar-M1-G Black/Green, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353025

    Rosewill Redbone looks pretty cool, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147159

    Thermaltake V4, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133179

    Thermaltake V3, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

    Enermax Ostrog, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811124150

    This Corsair looks cool in a weird way :P http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139041


    Yep, some Solid Suggestions. I kind of hate rosewill, just this case I have is SO flimsy, so I basically vowed never to buy another rosewill product, lol. Is the spec-01 micro atx? Seems reallly up my ally, even though it is a bit large. The 210 windowed is pretty sleek, but I am buying only off of amazon (sorry 'bout that), because I have some amazon giftcards recently acquired as my 14th b-day is approaching in late June. Do you think I should get a ssd or a case first? I will order either one sometime this week, possibly today.
  29. Also, I decided to only buy from reliable brands such as NZXT, Corsair, thermaltake (don't really like the looks too much), and not only for cases, but for all my other components aswell.
  30. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Case: Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($37.54 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $37.54
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-17 19:32 EDT-0400
  31. logainofhades said:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Case: Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($37.54 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $37.54
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-17 19:32 EDT-0400

    Don't really like how it looks too much. What do you think of the corsair spec 01, nzxt source 210, and the coolermaster n200?
  32. I like the spec 01, which is what I linked earlier. :lol: The N200 is nice too.
  33. I know what you mean totally, and sometimes stuff on Amazon is cheaper than newegg too. Originally I had the huge and heavy Cooler Master HAF XM which is pretty much a full tower, I downsized to the Cooler Master Elite 430, and it looks decent, but it's extremely flimsy too, I thought of getting a Corsair case, that Spec-01 actually looks pretty cool, it's different at least from all the other plain cases out there haha.

    I like a case to have a window, I think it's cool being able to look in, I thought of getting the mid tower black NZXT Phantom 410, it's like $99.

    Some people only ever get one case forever and are done with it, I feel kinda weird changing around cases :P

    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-SPEC-01-CC-9011050-WW/dp/B00I6BJATW

    "Physical Spec

    Dimensions
    18.40" x 7.80" x 16.30" (L x W x H)

    Weight
    10.6lbs"

    Dimensions Rosewill Ranger-M
    6.89" x 13.86" x 15.26" (W x H x D) (bezel included)
    Dimensions Corsair Spec-01
    7.80" x 16.30" x 18.40" W x H x D

    Compared to your case right now the new Corsair is not much bigger
  34. logainofhades said:
    I like the spec 01, which is what I linked earlier. :lol: The N200 is nice too.


    The N200 is excellent. I love mine. It has tons of space, it has nice airflow, and a great look to it.
  35. I have an HAF 932 advanced and want to downsize to a mini-itx rig. :lol:
  36. Really? First time I've heard that. Gonna be quite the switch hmm. Do you guys think the spec will fit nicely on the desk I posted and image of?n200 vs spec 01? Will my cx430 wires be long enough in the psc to go befind the mobo and into the 8 pin? Do I put in mobo or PSU first? Back in early 2013 I had a phantom 410 and a gtx 660ti and a i7 3770 and 16gb ram, but my dad returned it and got an iMac (eww) so I built this on hope to have a fast gaming rig eventually?). I want a case that I can upgrade to and move a bigger PSU, maybe evntaully an all in one CPU cooler and anew GPU into eventually. I will go Intel at some point.
    Upgrades in this order ssd>case>monitor>PSU> and then probably my CPU>GPU. Monitor for Christmas, rest some point after Christmas.
  37. yeah the Spec 01 should fit, it's not that much bigger than the Ranger M, it seems like it has decent cabling, probably better than the Ranger. It would also fit a liquid cooler later
  38. Will the spec 01 fit nicley? Spec 01 or n200? How many fans does it come with. My 120mm blue fan might look silly with the red thene. Why are the dimensions different on amazon then newegg? Is it worth it? Will it last me for 2 years? Looks pretty sexy, lol. Will my cx430 wires be long enough for neat wire meangment?
  39. I'd rather get the Spec 01, it just comes with the front red fan. The amazon spec might include the shipping container box itself, I noticed they were different too. You could either get some red cooler master or corsair fans for about ~10 bucks each. The cx430 should be fine, I did a build before with the cx500 and they were decent length

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY0J68nRpDM
  40. Ok. I will use my 3 pin 120mm blue fan for a while. Does the spec have decent wire management options? Does it support only m-atx?
  41. Yeah, wow I'd get the Spec 01. It looks sweet. If I would have known about it, I wouldn't have gotten the N200.

    The interior and spacing instead of the case both look very similar though. I'd say whatever "look" pleases you, go for it!

    The SPEC-01 can also fit ATX motherboards, so it is bigger. It will be better for a lot of cables and big GPUs and coolers.
  42. yeah it's a mid tower so it can fix ATX motherboards as well, it looks pretty cool...although eventually I'll prob end up with the black Phantom 410, this Spec 01 looks cooler to me the more I look at it haha
  43. WhiteSnake91 said:
    yeah it's a mid tower so it can fix ATX motherboards as well, it looks pretty cool...although eventually I'll prob end up with the black Phantom 410, this Spec 01 looks cooler to me the more I look at it haha


    Alright, awesome. Looks sick! I did some measurements, and it seems like it will fit if i just move over my mouse and keyboard and mouse pad a few inches. It'll take some getting used to, but should be fine. I'm kind of sceptical of getting the ssd. Is it actually worth it?
  44. yeah an SSD is totally worth it, even for a cheap 120gb one, although 250gb only cost like 30more bucks now days. The 240gb Crucial m500 is pretty good and I've seen it go for as low as $105 on amazon not that long ago. Your computer will start up so much quicker and everything will just feel snappy and load pretty much instantly....I'd never want to go back to a HDD based system now if I could help it
  45. I am about bike, get the card, and buy a kingston v300 120gb ssd. Only 54$ and comes with the adapter bracket.
  46. Pcbuilder123 said:
    I am about bike, get the card, and buy a kingston v300 120gb ssd. Only 54$ and comes with the adapter bracket.


    That's a great deal, but it's really not the best SSD. I remember when I was in the market for an SSD, I was considering the Kingston V300, and I heard a lot of bad about it. Low quality flash, lower than advertised speeds, and poor quality and reliability.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-update-to-kingston-ssdnow-v300-a-switch-to-slower-micron-nand

    I bought a Crucial M500, and it is awesome. It is a lot better rated (about as well as the much more expensive Samsung 840 EVO) and doesn't cost much more at all. My computer boots in about 8 seconds, and I have a 2nd-rate AMD system like you.

    http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-adapter-Internal-CT120M500SSD1/dp/B00BQ4F9ZA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1403059494&sr=8-3&keywords=crucial+m500
  47. hello! I just ordered my pny 120gb ssd. the crucial was almost 15 dollars more so I went for this. Now in a month or so I will buy a new case. can anybody link me a good SSD setup guide? Thanks!
  48. I followed this guide with my bro's crucial m500

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-performance-tweak,2911.html

    got a couple GBs out of it and less wear and tear on the HDD, a win-win to me.... I left the page file at 1gb on the SSD, on a mechanical HDD you can dedicate like 10gb to the page file, and windows will combine both of them, that's how I have my pc setup. Games like Arma 3 used to cry about running out of memory but after giving it 10gb off my regular HDD it never did again
  49. Alright, nice! When I get a monitor, my budget is around 140$ so any recommendations? Also, when I do upgrade CPU, 8320 or Intel? GPU?
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