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Jeremy Evans

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http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ObliviousReaper/saved/332C
1st Choice-Better CPU i7, Decent Mobo, OC memory, Decent Monitor 5ms response time.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ObliviousReaper/saved/3F0n
2nd Choice- i5, Great Mobo, OC memory, better Monitor 2ms response time.

I was wondering if a GTX-770 would be better than GTX 760 for the price. Is it worth spending the extra money on?
Also should i get an i7-4770 or an i5-4570? I want to know if getting that is also worth the extra money. I heard i7 run better with better graphics so a 770 with an i7 would have better fps than i5 with 770. Would getting the MSI Gaming mobo on the i7 be more reliable/price worthy. I don't think the 1st mobo is bad but if i got the gaming one would it worth the cost. I'm looking to stay under 1150$

Could i hear some opinions on this?
 
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No the 4770 and the 4570 are almost the same http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4570 Here is the build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($91.48 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1134.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-05 18:24 EST-0500)
 
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The first is the better build. But you could save yourself some money and be better served by purchasing 1866 or 1600 memory with lower latency numbers. Yes, the both the i7 and the 770 are worth the price. It'll be screaming fast when you get it together.

Best of luck.
 
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the core i5-4570 will run any game at 1080p u dont need that core i7
my suggestion is take the gtx 760 and is not worth the extra money
I heard i7 run better with better graphics so a 770 with an i7 would have better fps than i5 with 770 the answer is not that much
ia will push up the performance to 10 fps only
 
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All very good, and true. I only suggested what I did to provide the gentleman some greater longevity between upgrades. Yes, it will be a long time before he would need to overclock or replace the i5. But it would be even longer with the i7.
 
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Aren't 2 modules of memory better than one? Also why would i spend 20 more on the psu. Not to mention you said "An i5 is good enough especially because he has the 770 with my build." But on the build you put a 760. Also im not looking to future proof my computer that much i'm only going to be using it for gaming so probably the best intel based gaming build with a 760 or 770 would be the best option.

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I changed build to this, any opinions/suggestions?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ObliviousReaper/saved/3F5c

Edit 2:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ObliviousReaper/saved/332C
Edited the first build to an i7 with 770 if i decide to save up about 100-200$ more and invest in a better future proof computer.
 
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Yes, two memory modules is better than one IF the motherboard utilizes dual channel technology. If so, run two 4G sticks.
The new build will perform very well. Stop sweating it. Build it and you'll see.

All the best
 
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Yes, 2 modules are better than 1 so they can run in dual-channel mode. I also don't know why you would get 1600MHz RAM for $90 or a micro-ATX motherboard in a full-size ATX case. This one is pretty similar to your original i5 build but includes the "K" version of the CPU since it doesn't really cost any more. You don't have to overclock, but at least that will be an option in the future. Stick with the i5 + GTX 770 combination.

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2NZ45) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2NZ45/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2NZ45/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k) | $229.97 @ SuperBiiz
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87hd3) | $109.99 @ NCIX US
**Memory** | [G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbsr) | $84.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1002fbys) | $51.40 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx770dc2oc2gd5) | $339.99 @ Microcenter
**Case** | [Corsair Graphite Series 230T Grey ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011040ww) | $39.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m) | $54.99 @ Microcenter
**Optical Drive** | [Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe) | $16.98 @ OutletPC
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615) | $89.99 @ NCIX US
**Monitor** | [Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vh238h) | $134.99 @ NCIX US
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $1153.28
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-05 19:17 EST-0500 |
 
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I'm an amateur when it comes to the newest hardware, but I will tell you my i7 2700k, 8GB GSkill Ripjaws X Series 1866 PC-14900 (2 X 4GB), and ANCIENT Geforce 470GTX can handle MOST GAMES very well. I always buy Gigabyte boards (3rd build here) and GSkill high-end RAM. I may even SLI another 470GTX and I'll be good for another few years IMHO. Unless, of course, I'm going to output to a 50" monitor.

To cut it short, yes, the GPU is always more important than the CPU when gaming. And yes, high speed Ram helps some. But why don't you stick to SandyBridge 2600k/2700K as you can probably find one on Ebay for CHEAP and buy a sturdier motherboard. Here's a link to Ram I bought.....5 stars on Newegg with 500+ reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455
 
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Just wondering would getting the Zotac ZT-70304-10P with 4GB of memory, or any one of the 770's with 4 GB of memory be worth it? I have heard a lot of people say different things about it, so idk if it's worth the extra 40 bucks.
 
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No, You do not need 4GB of GDDR5 VRAM for a 1080p 60Hz Monitor.
 
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The extra GPU RAM is mostly helpful at higher resolutions. You can get the 4GB version, but I don't think you'll really see much of an improvement at 1920x1080. Only get the 4GB version if your budget allows it without downgrading any other components.
 
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I would go with my build instead. Sure you cant overclock, (which you can somewhat but wont go into details) but it stil is a powerful cpu. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4570 Also with my build you have an ssd and the best company for psu, SeaSonic. You wont have the 770 but a 760 is good enough for whatever games you are going to play. Now if you decide to go with illumy's build, change the gpu to an evga 770 because evga provides the coolest temps out of all nvidia gpu companies.
 
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This isn't a "my build is better than your build" contest. We're trying to fine tune the best possible build for the OPs intended use and budget. I think the last build by Illumynization has got it dialed in. We'll let the OP decide if the SSD and Seasonic PSU are worth the downgrade to a GTX 760. I would say probably not since the SSD and PSU won't help with FPS in games.
 
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+1 CPU,SSD. Im not sure if SeaSonic has all the best PSUs but most of them are definitely top notch. I'd like to think a few companies have better models in their class. SeaSonic is absolutely a great brand.

I'd stick with the 770 though. I've seen some ASUS DCUII cards cooler than the EVGA cards but its neck and neck, doesn't really make a huge difference between the two.
 
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Just a heads up, you don't need a Z87 mobo since you are not OCing. Save some $ there.
 
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