Config GAMER Advise

[JackyCore]

Hello,

I would like to buy a gamer computer at 1700-1800$ for the tower, but I'm not export at all so I ask some advise:

- Core i7-4770K (I also do some scientific calcul)
- For the motherboard I need some help: Asus Z87-A C2, Asrock Pro4, MSI G41 PC Mate , MSI Z87-G45 GAMING, ASUS Z87-PLUS C2
- GTX 770 (which model/brand? MSI, Gigabyte...)
- SSD Samsung 840 EVO
- Seagate Barracuda SATA 3.0
- kingstone HyperX red 2*4GO DDR3 1600 MHz
- Corsair CX750M 80PLUS Bronze
- Be Quiet ! Dark Rock 3 (need water cooling ?)
- Tower: no idea for the moment

Thanks a lot,

 

[animal]

Will you need mouse, keyboard, monitor(s), speakers, headphones or OS included? How many monitors will you be using and at what resolution? How large of a case are you wanting (mid-tower such as the Corsair 500R or full-tower like the Rosewill Thor V2) and does color or side panel window matter?

 

[JackyCore]

Will you need mouse, keyboard, monitor(s), speakers, headphones or OS included? How many monitors will you be using and at what resolution? How large of a case are you wanting (mid-tower such as the Corsair 500R or full-tower like the Rosewill Thor V2) and does color or side panel window matter?

Thanks for your reply. I already have mouse, keyboard, monitor and everything else. I have one monitor in 1920 * 1080. I don'treally care about the tower, I prefere what is best ^^. Color or side panel window matter does not really matter aswell.

 

[animal]

Here are a couple of build possibilities for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($154.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2 ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1403.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-08 08:04 EST-0500)


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($154.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1523.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-08 08:09 EST-0500)


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($154.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1473.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-08 08:11 EST-0500)

All three builds are more or less the same, and all come in under budget, leaving room for adding an OS (~$100) or tweaking parts or even adding a second GPU (or upgrading to a 780). The first build uses the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO which is one of the best price/performance air coolers out there. The other two use the Corsair H100i AIO water cooler, second uses a white case (although it is available in other colors/styles) and the same with the third, same as 2nd build except for the case (this one is black but again available in different colors). Hope this helps.

 

[JackyCore]

It helps a lot, thanks.

- Is there a big difference between air or water Cooler (not in term of price but for stability, perf...) ?

 

[animal]

not really, generally, liquid coolers will perform better than air coolers under load, but there are other aspects to consider. Here are a few pros and cons of each:

Air Cooler Pros:

1. Typically cost less than liquid cooler solutions although some air coolers are just as expensive
2. The only thing that makes noise is/are the fan(s)
3. Most air coolers have massive heatsinks, so even if a fan fails, you can sometimes still use your system until you can get a replacement
4. The only additional cost is if a fan fails or is too noisy or has bad performance and needs to be replaced.
5. Will NEVER leak anything into your system as liquid coolers may.

Air Cooler Cons:

1. Not all air coolers are compatible with all motherboards and cases. Some will only fit certain socket motherboards but most are universal, meaning they can be used on most builds, regardless of what motherboard socket is being used. The bigger drawback is that some air coolers will cause interference with the RAM slots or will limit how tall the RAM height can be. Air coolers can be very tall, so have the potential of not fitting in some cases, or having to remove case fans in order for them to fit, usually side fan(s) although sometimes top fan(s) as well. However, a little homework will avoid any such issues.

Liquid cooler Pros:

1. Usually provide better cooling under load than air coolers.
2. The CPU water block generally will not cause any interference with RAM slots nor will it impact the RAM height you can use.
3. Some liquid coolers are less expensive than a comparable air cooler (comparable in terms of performance).

Liquid cooler Cons:

1. Can cost more than some air coolers
2. Can have (or develop) leaks which can get on/into your motherboard and other components
3. If a radiator fan fails, same as air cooler issue. However if the pump (that circulates the liquid) dies or becomes excessively noisy, you must replace the entire liquid cooler setup if it is an All-In-One (such as the Corsair H100i). If it is a custom loop, you would only replace the pump (which costs more than replacing a fan).
4. Not all water coolers are compatible with cases. Some cases will not allow or will limit the size radiator it can support size-wise not weight-wise.

These are just a few of the things to consider when trying to choose between an air cooler or liquid cooling.

 

[JackyCore]

not really, generally, liquid coolers will perform better than air coolers under load, but there are other aspects to consider. Here are a few pros and cons of each:

Air Cooler Pros:

1. Typically cost less than liquid cooler solutions although some air coolers are just as expensive
2. The only thing that makes noise is/are the fan(s)
3. Most air coolers have massive heatsinks, so even if a fan fails, you can sometimes still use your system until you can get a replacement
4. The only additional cost is if a fan fails or is too noisy or has bad performance and needs to be replaced.
5. Will NEVER leak anything into your system as liquid coolers may.

Air Cooler Cons:

1. Not all air coolers are compatible with all motherboards and cases. Some will only fit certain socket motherboards but most are universal, meaning they can be used on most builds, regardless of what motherboard socket is being used. The bigger drawback is that some air coolers will cause interference with the RAM slots or will limit how tall the RAM height can be. Air coolers can be very tall, so have the potential of not fitting in some cases, or having to remove case fans in order for them to fit, usually side fan(s) although sometimes top fan(s) as well. However, a little homework will avoid any such issues.

Liquid cooler Pros:

1. Usually provide better cooling under load than air coolers.
2. The CPU water block generally will not cause any interference with RAM slots nor will it impact the RAM height you can use.
3. Some liquid coolers are less expensive than a comparable air cooler (comparable in terms of performance).

Liquid cooler Cons:

1. Can cost more than some air coolers
2. Can have (or develop) leaks which can get on/into your motherboard and other components
3. If a radiator fan fails, same as air cooler issue. However if the pump (that circulates the liquid) dies or becomes excessively noisy, you must replace the entire liquid cooler setup if it is an All-In-One (such as the Corsair H100i). If it is a custom loop, you would only replace the pump (which costs more than replacing a fan).
4. Not all water coolers are compatible with cases. Some cases will not allow or will limit the size radiator it can support size-wise not weight-wise.

These are just a few of the things to consider when trying to choose between an air cooler or liquid cooling.

 

[JackyCore]

Thanks for the very good explanations

 

[animal]

Happy to help, fell free to ask anything, someone here should be able to help if it is something I do not know