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February 14, 2014 10:26:33 PM

Hey guys,

I'm building a rig for playing MMORPG games such as WoW (Mainly/specifically) in a mid-high setting with decent fps on a 1680x1050 for somewhat in the price range of 600-700 bucks. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2TpUe is my current setup. Now, before I go into the main question I have a side question I'd like to get out of the way and the only question to this is whether or not to stick with the EVGA PSU in the above build or go with the Corsair http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500...

Moving onto the real question and having the battery in mind, I looked over a lot more things and found myself with 2 builds I'm debating between going with:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Toum (Tad bit over budget, but will go with it if it's worth it)
Has an R9 720 Graphics Card instead of the GTX 660 2GB
while
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ToOr
Has a different CPU with an AMD FX-6300 instead of the i5-4570, thus, allowing me to get a GTX 770 2GB.

I can't seem to decide between the i5-4570 build and AMD FX-6300 build, though I hear Intel is really great for WoW. Whichever would be better for a heavily 20 man raiding environment and MAYBE some streaming. Though, I can do without it honestly. And at this point I'm not too worried about OC'ing. After doing all this research and reading I'm so close to my perfect 1st build and need just some incites!

Thinking about it, if I was to get my hands on an HDD would it be worthwhile to switch out the Asus H87M-E for a H87M-Pro besides the Crossfire Support it has without having to change anything else to stay within budget? I don't care about the Crossfire if either of the 2 builds are perfectly fine the way they are. Would love any and all opinions and/or suggestion. Thank you for your time and greatly appreciate the help. :) 

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February 14, 2014 11:00:16 PM

you could run WoW on this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X EXTREME4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $431.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 01:59 EST-0500)
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February 14, 2014 11:11:37 PM

dashboy1998 said:
you could run WoW on this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X EXTREME4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $431.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 01:59 EST-0500)


I see. Thanks for the info, but I'm afraid the CPU's I'm working with in both of those builds outperforms the one you recommended. And I like that you compiled a list of parts that would make a computer that can for sure run wow, but I very strongly feel for the builds I currently have up as they are RIGHT within my budget, excluding the one that's a tad bit over. I'm willing to spend the bucks to have a good computer that can run with what I desired in the OT. However, your incite is greatly appreciated. :) 
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February 14, 2014 11:28:04 PM

zyglarc said:
dashboy1998 said:
you could run WoW on this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X EXTREME4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $431.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 01:59 EST-0500)


I see. Thanks for the info, but I'm afraid the CPU's I'm working with in both of those builds outperforms the one you recommended. And I like that you compiled a list of parts that would make a computer that can for sure run wow, but I very strongly feel for the builds I currently have up as they are RIGHT within my budget, excluding the one that's a tad bit over. I'm willing to spend the bucks to have a good computer that can run with what I desired in the OT. However, your incite is greatly appreciated. :) 

This is what you have now?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2TpUe
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February 14, 2014 11:37:25 PM

dashboy1998 said:
zyglarc said:
dashboy1998 said:
you could run WoW on this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X EXTREME4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $431.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 01:59 EST-0500)


I see. Thanks for the info, but I'm afraid the CPU's I'm working with in both of those builds outperforms the one you recommended. And I like that you compiled a list of parts that would make a computer that can for sure run wow, but I very strongly feel for the builds I currently have up as they are RIGHT within my budget, excluding the one that's a tad bit over. I'm willing to spend the bucks to have a good computer that can run with what I desired in the OT. However, your incite is greatly appreciated. :) 

This is what you have now?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2TpUe


It's what I have so far ready to buy after I solve my problem, yes. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, thought I did.
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February 14, 2014 11:51:15 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $699.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 02:49 EST-0500)


If you aren't Overclocking get a cheaper board.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $698.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 02:49 EST-0500)



Either one is fine for WoW one will not do better then the other in that game, but in other games Battlefield 4, Titanfall, Arma 3 etc... the GTX 770 will do alot better
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February 15, 2014 12:46:32 AM

dashboy1998 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $699.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 02:49 EST-0500)


If you aren't Overclocking get a cheaper board.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $698.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 02:49 EST-0500)



Either one is fine for WoW one will not do better then the other in that game, but in other games Battlefield 4, Titanfall, Arma 3 etc... the GTX 770 will do alot better


Ahh, so exchanging the Asus MOBO with the MSI M5A will allow me to get a much better GPU, but my last question. In doing so will that affect the connectivity between the board and CPU and prove to be a quality board? The reason I ask if because I see a lot of bad MSI reviews and how they apparently aren't doing so well against the other top brand MOBO's. Idk it's just what I've read while doing this research, I could be wrong.
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February 15, 2014 12:54:15 AM

zyglarc said:
dashboy1998 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $699.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 02:49 EST-0500)


If you aren't Overclocking get a cheaper board.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $698.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-15 02:49 EST-0500)



Either one is fine for WoW one will not do better then the other in that game, but in other games Battlefield 4, Titanfall, Arma 3 etc... the GTX 770 will do alot better


Ahh, so exchanging the Asus MOBO with the MSI M5A will allow me to get a much better GPU, but my last question. In doing so will that affect the connectivity between the board and CPU and prove to be a quality board? The reason I ask if because I see a lot of bad MSI reviews and how they apparently aren't doing so well against the other top brand MOBO's. Idk it's just what I've read while doing this research, I could be wrong.


Every brand has their bad motherboards but this board isn't one.
The only thing a better motherboard has is Soundcard, Faster RAM speed, More RAM and More PCI slots non of which will make the games better or the CPU better but with a good motherboard you can Overclock.
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February 15, 2014 1:50:25 AM

Thanks for all the help man I think I found what I want my 1st build to be! But to be clear, would I want to stick with the EVGA PSU or go for Corsair http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500... Same price, but is the Semi-Mod and/or any other features/quality a better choice than the EVGA?
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February 15, 2014 1:55:40 AM

zyglarc said:
Thanks for all the help man I think I found what I want my 1st build to be! But to be clear, would I want to stick with the EVGA PSU or go for Corsair http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500... Same price, but is the Semi-Mod and/or any other features/quality a better choice than the EVGA?


If you want a Semi-Mod get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-m12i...

CX series is known to died after 2 years
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