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a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2014 9:44:05 AM

OK you asked for it - there there are already two similar discussions going on regarding crypto currencies:

- The first is in the CPUs forum started by moderator Reynod: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2041369/cryptomini...
- The second is on what makes up the rest of a rig suitable for coin mining: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2041828/crypto-cur...

This thread will focus on discussion with crypto currency mining and graphics cards.

This is a moderator sanctioned thread for discussing the best graphics cards and graphics hardware for mining the hottest crypto currencies. There has been a lot of discussion with crypto currencies and graphics cards, particularly of the AMD 78XX and Radeon R9-2XX series (and interest in currency mining has heavily driven up the price of these cards). The Radeon 79XX are also particularly adept at crypto currencies such as Bitcoin and Litecoin and as such the prices on those particular cards have skyrocketed due to the high demand.

We will be monitoring this in a week to see how this goes. Remember - keep it on topic and keep it civil! All off topic posts will be deleted and this thread will be monitored by myself and the other moderators to make sure that this will remain on discussion with crypto currencies and currency mining.

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a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2014 12:22:57 PM

Litecoin:

XFX 7870GHz (Pitcairn) 350kH/s x 2 = 660kH/s @ 360w (1000/1200)

CGminer 3.7.2

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://ltc.give-me-coins.com:3334 -u user -p password --thread-concurrency 8192 --lookup-gap 2 -w 256 -I 12 -g 2

(I run one command window for the 7870's)

Gigabyte GTX 780WF3 660 +/- kH/s x2 = 1320 +/- kH/s @ 500w (1084/1690)

cudaminer-2014-02-18 x86

cudaminer.exe -H 1 -d 0 -i 0 -l Z12x24 -C 0 -m 1 -o stratum+tcp://ltc.give-me-coins.com:3334 -O user:p assword

(I run two individual windows for the 780's)

I actually have an older entry HERE.

Point is, nVidia cards (GK110) with the newest CM have much better performance per watt as compared to the power guzzling Radeon cards.
a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2014 1:10:16 PM

I'm interested in the results of the GTX 750Ti. I believe the low power usage will make these the ideal card to use for mining.
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a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2014 1:42:44 PM

WonkeyDoo2 said:
I'm interested in the results of the GTX 750Ti. I believe the low power usage will make these the ideal card to use for mining.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...

Should have read the 750ti review, Tom's did a LTC mine with it.

246 kh/s
a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2014 2:09:36 PM

getochkn said:
WonkeyDoo2 said:
I'm interested in the results of the GTX 750Ti. I believe the low power usage will make these the ideal card to use for mining.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...

Should have read the 750ti review, Tom's did a LTC mine with it.

246 kh/s


That's phenominal for a card that uses 60w! Good eye getochkn.

I've been telling people not to overpay for Radeon because people would realize nVidia cards are far more efficient and prices would fall back in line.

a b U Graphics card
February 26, 2014 6:04:25 PM

I am glad this thread was started, I am very interested in throwing money at this to build a rig or two, now to read the other threads mentioned at the top first.
February 26, 2014 10:24:33 PM

This here is the .bat config for the Radeon 7850 GPU. You can drop this right into your cgminer config file and begin mining. These settings will give you 350KH/s for a single GPU and that usually costs less than 130w. This is configured to mine DOGECOIN at the mining pool shown.

cgminer.exe --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://dogus.nut2pools.com:5585 -u MagusALL.toms -p hardware --thread-concurrency 8192 --no-submit-stale -I 17 --worksize 256 --gpu-engine 1000 --gpu-memclock 1250 --auto-fan --gpu-fan 25-100 --temp-target 75 --temp-overheat 87 -g 1

I personally run two of these. You can, of course, register for any pool. I have this one set to mine for nut2pools which is a good mining pool that finds a good amount of blocks. Modify as needed. Simply edit for .bat file and cut and paste these settings then click on the config file to launch the mining application (cgminer 3.7.2 for Windows). After a few seconds to a minute you will see the miner level out at around 350KH/s per GPU and you should see numbers start to appear in the A: value place with zero in the R: (rejections) and zeros in the HW: (hardware errors). Once you see the numbers in the A: field that means you are properly mining DOGECOIN or whatever coin you want to mine. Just find the pool that you like, small ones are great too, download a wallet and do your thing. Hope this helps you new miners.

Please don't post this kind of information. If you want to give this kind of information to people about account access, use your PM function. - G
a b U Graphics card
February 27, 2014 6:05:45 AM

RussK1 said:
getochkn said:
WonkeyDoo2 said:
I'm interested in the results of the GTX 750Ti. I believe the low power usage will make these the ideal card to use for mining.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...

Should have read the 750ti review, Tom's did a LTC mine with it.

246 kh/s


That's phenominal for a card that uses 60w! Good eye getochkn.

I've been telling people not to overpay for Radeon because people would realize nVidia cards are far more efficient and prices would fall back in line.



I agree to most of what you guys say,but for me the 750 ti would have been an awesome option had nvidia allowed us to SLi. :fou:  :pfff: 
a b U Graphics card
February 27, 2014 5:39:23 PM

MagusALL said:
This here is the .bat config for the Radeon 7850 GPU. You can drop this right into your cgminer config file and begin mining. These settings will give you 350KH/s for a single GPU and that usually costs less than 130w. This is configured to mine DOGECOIN at the mining pool shown.

cgminer.exe --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://dogus.nut2pools.com:5585 -u MagusALL.toms -p hardware --thread-concurrency 8192 --no-submit-stale -I 17 --worksize 256 --gpu-engine 1000 --gpu-memclock 1250 --auto-fan --gpu-fan 25-100 --temp-target 75 --temp-overheat 87 -g 1

I personally run two of these. You can, of course, register for any pool. I have this one set to mine for nut2pools which is a good mining pool that finds a good amount of blocks. Modify as needed. Simply edit for .bat file and cut and paste these settings then click on the config file to launch the mining application (cgminer 3.7.2 for Windows). After a few seconds to a minute you will see the miner level out at around 350KH/s per GPU and you should see numbers start to appear in the A: value place with zero in the R: (rejections) and zeros in the HW: (hardware errors). Once you see the numbers in the A: field that means you are properly mining DOGECOIN or whatever coin you want to mine. Just find the pool that you like, small ones are great too, download a wallet and do your thing. Hope this helps you new miners.

Please don't post this kind of information. If you want to give this kind of information to people about account access, use your PM function. - G


I am going to be ordering some hardware in the next day or so. My confusion comes in with the risers and hooking up like 6 750tis... I would gladly join your mining pool.

I will def refer to your commands when it comes time to finally get the client running.
a b U Graphics card
February 27, 2014 6:22:23 PM

getochkn said:
WonkeyDoo2 said:
I'm interested in the results of the GTX 750Ti. I believe the low power usage will make these the ideal card to use for mining.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...

Should have read the 750ti review, Tom's did a LTC mine with it.

246 kh/s


Forbes reported 284 kH/s with a mild overclock. The question is which 750tis to buy?


a b U Graphics card
February 28, 2014 4:57:18 AM

I would suggest staying away from DogeCoin due to the very recent dishonesty. And join pools that have a higher hashrate, minimal fees and DDoS protection.

Currently, GIVE ME COINS is awesome. No fees, high hashrate (almost 9GH/s) and all the data you need. Coinotron is good but expensive (2 - 3% PPS/RBPPS).
a b U Graphics card
February 28, 2014 7:36:28 PM

Ok thanks for the info Russ.... I think I'm going to start with an MSI MPower 1150 (Because I want this board down the road) a celeron and a large psu, what cards would you suggest at the moment. I don't pay that much for power here. The 750tis are amazing for 60w and ~280kH/s but you need like 6 cards to make it marginally worth it imo.
a b U Graphics card
March 1, 2014 4:47:30 AM

jjb8675309 said:
Ok thanks for the info Russ.... I think I'm going to start with an MSI MPower 1150 (Because I want this board down the road) a celeron and a large psu, what cards would you suggest at the moment. I don't pay that much for power here. The 750tis are amazing for 60w and ~280kH/s but you need like 6 cards to make it marginally worth it imo.


The 750ti's are awesome but yes you'd need quite a few. I would pick up as many GTX 780's as possible. Depending on clocks (especially memory) and setting's you could nearly reach 700kH/s while only consuming 250w max per card.

To put it into perspective look HERE.

Isn't it weird, I'm promoting nVidia? Go figure times change.

How's the 680 BTW?
March 1, 2014 6:13:59 AM

The idea is very good but done very bad.If you want to recommend best gpu for mining then we can all collectively search on ALL (about 16 I guess) price comparing sites for best prices OR MAKE A SHOP ENGINE WHICH SEARCHES IN ALL THOSE 16 INSTEAD an post price here then compare th price to KH/S it gets and then the KH/S/Watts.

Also a thread is very bad for this should have a proper design layout so everyone can easily stay uptodate and contribute to this.
a b U Graphics card
March 1, 2014 6:44:24 AM

d359233drdrbcom said:
The idea is very good but done very bad.If you want to recommend best gpu for mining then we can all collectively search on ALL (about 16 I guess) price comparing sites for best prices OR MAKE A SHOP ENGINE WHICH SEARCHES IN ALL THOSE 16 INSTEAD an post price here then compare th price to KH/S it gets and then the KH/S/Watts.

Also a thread is very bad for this should have a proper design layout so everyone can easily stay uptodate and contribute to this.


It's not hard, Performance per Watt is in nVidia's favor... this equals more Performance per Dollar.

The point is making money ASAP to payback hardware costs and making a profit. GTX 780's can be had for $500 with more than adequate cooling.

Quote:
On a scale of performance (in kH/s) per watt, that puts Nvidia way out ahead of AMD.


Quote:
NVIDIA kills it! The GeForce GTX 780s truly take the crown in power consumption wars against the R9 290X, thanks to the excellent work NVIDIA has done since the truly dismal Fermi-based GPUs of yesteryear. The latest GPUs are quite power efficient, but silent performers.


I hate sounding like an nVidia advertisment but it doesn't make it any less true.

a b U Graphics card
March 1, 2014 10:20:47 AM

Hey Russ,

The 680 is fantastic, the best card I've ever owned by far. I'm gonna try to snag some 780s and an MSI M Power 1150 board. I already have an 1150 Celeron. Would you recommend getting ones with aftermarket cooling if the price is negligible?
a b U Graphics card
March 1, 2014 11:01:31 AM

jjb8675309 said:
Hey Russ,

The 680 is fantastic, the best card I've ever owned by far. I'm gonna try to snag some 780s and an MSI M Power 1150 board. I already have an 1150 Celeron. Would you recommend getting ones with aftermarket cooling if the price is negligible?


I have the Gigabyte 780GHz x2. Great cards just wish the ASIC was better, but that's the way it is.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But these refurb EVGA ACX 780's are sub $500. I would take a shot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

March 2, 2014 12:54:28 AM

What is the best way to find motherboard by pci-e slots amount per price?

Checking each motherboard is very tedious and it will probably take months?
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2014 8:21:03 AM

Thanks Russ, I was looking at the Windforces too they are on sale today, I will also check out the reburb you linked
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2014 12:56:19 PM

I ended up buying some stuff today:

MSI Z87 MPOWER Mobo
CORSAIR CS750M 750W PSU
2 Windforce 780s
Wireless NIC
Crates/Misc Materials

Already have RAM, SSD.

I didn't buy any risers for now since its only 2 cards. Is this a bad idea?

I plan on adding 2 more 780s and another psu. Gotta wait for a paycheck or two before I make that move.

I was second guessing the crates. What do you guys think about this workbench and its ability to stabilize several GPUs.

Russ, do you just have your setup in a full tower?
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2014 5:37:33 PM

Personal attacks and bickering removed. Remember - multiple moderators are watching this thread.
a b U Graphics card
March 3, 2014 3:40:10 AM

If the cards don't SLI, then can they be used as mutliple GPU's for mining?
a b U Graphics card
March 3, 2014 5:00:48 AM

cst1992 said:
If the cards don't SLI, then can they be used as mutliple GPU's for mining?


Yes. SLI actually breaks hashrate. It's not recommended.

Quote:
I ended up buying some stuff today:

MSI Z87 MPOWER Mobo
CORSAIR CS750M 750W PSU
2 Windforce 780s
Wireless NIC
Crates/Misc Materials

Already have RAM, SSD.

I didn't buy any risers for now since its only 2 cards. Is this a bad idea?

I plan on adding 2 more 780s and another psu. Gotta wait for a paycheck or two before I make that move.

I was second guessing the crates. What do you guys think about this workbench and its ability to stabilize several GPUs.

Russ, do you just have your setup in a full tower?


In a full tower yes. I was thinking about the milk crate idea too. Cheap, effective and easy to maintain. Once you get more cards then you can worry about the risers. But the two 780's will remain cool enough depending on the factory application of TIM on the GPU and it's ASIC quality.

Let me know when you're ready and I can help you with setting up CM and it's batch files. In the mean time, you could be testing out that 680... that thing runs on a low voltage and clocks like a champ. I miss that card!
a b U Graphics card
March 3, 2014 7:18:05 AM

RussK1 said:
cst1992 said:
If the cards don't SLI, then can they be used as mutliple GPU's for mining?


Yes. SLI actually breaks hashrate. It's not recommended.

Quote:
I ended up buying some stuff today:

MSI Z87 MPOWER Mobo
CORSAIR CS750M 750W PSU
2 Windforce 780s
Wireless NIC
Crates/Misc Materials

Already have RAM, SSD.

I didn't buy any risers for now since its only 2 cards. Is this a bad idea?

I plan on adding 2 more 780s and another psu. Gotta wait for a paycheck or two before I make that move.

I was second guessing the crates. What do you guys think about this workbench and its ability to stabilize several GPUs.

Russ, do you just have your setup in a full tower?


In a full tower yes. I was thinking about the milk crate idea too. Cheap, effective and easy to maintain. Once you get more cards then you can worry about the risers. But the two 780's will remain cool enough depending on the factory application of TIM on the GPU and it's ASIC quality.

Let me know when you're ready and I can help you with setting up CM and it's batch files. In the mean time, you could be testing out that 680... that thing runs on a low voltage and clocks like a champ. I miss that card!



Yes Russ, I started configuring the 680 for testing last night while I wait for my parts to come this week. I def could use some help configuring and tweaking. Perhaps you can assist me in dialing in some settings. Well I'm off to work, can't wait to play with it later.
a b U Graphics card
March 3, 2014 7:48:56 AM

Quote:
Yes Russ, I started configuring the 680 for testing last night while I wait for my parts to come this week. I def could use some help configuring and tweaking. Perhaps you can assist me in dialing in some settings. Well I'm off to work, can't wait to play with it later.


The following will debug best launch configuration (be patient). Once you know what it is you can manually write it into the config..

cudaminer.exe -D -H 1 -d 0 -i 0 -l auto -C 0 -m 1 -o stratum+tcp://whatever pool ur using.com:3334 -O user:p ass

This may work:

cudaminer.exe -H 1 -d 0 -i 0 -l K8x32 -C 0 -m 1 -o stratum+tcp://whatever pool ur using.com:p ort -O user:p ass

Benchmark without the latency of the network or pool.

cudaminer.exe -H 1 -d 0 -i 0 -l K8x32 (or auto) -C 0 -m 1 --benchmark

Quoted from the CGminer README:

Quote:
Additional cudaminer specific command line options are:

--no-autotune disables the built-in autotuning feature for
maximizing CUDA kernel efficiency and uses some
heuristical guesswork, which might not be optimal.

--devices [-d] gives a comma separated list of CUDA device IDs
to operate on. Device IDs start counting from 0!
Alternatively give string names of your card like
gtx780ti or gt640#2 (matching 2nd gt640 in the PC).

--launch-config [-l] specify the kernel launch configuration per device.
This replaces autotune or heuristic selection. You can
pass the strings "auto" or just a kernel prefix like
F or K or T to autotune for a specific card generation
or a kernel prefix plus a lauch configuration like F28x8
if you know what kernel runs best (from a previous
autotune).

--interactive [-i] list of flags (0 or 1) to enable interactive
desktop performance on individual cards. Use this
to remove lag at the cost of some hashing performance.
Do not use large launch configs for devices that shall
run in interactive mode - it's best to use autotune!

--batchsize [-b] comma separated list of max. scrypt iterations that
are run in one kernel invocation. Default is 1024. Best to
use powers of 2 here. Increase for better performance in
scrypt-jane with high N-factors. Lower for more interactivity
of your video display especially when using the interactive
mode.

--texture-cache [-C] list of flags (0 or 1 or 2) to enable use of the
texture cache for reading from the scrypt scratchpad.
1 uses a 1D cache, whereas 2 uses a 2D texture layout.
Cached operation has proven to be slightly faster than
noncached operation on most GPUs.

--single-memory [-m] list of flags (0 or 1) to make the devices
allocate their scrypt scratchpad in a single,
consecutive memory block. On Windows Vista, 7/8
this may lead to a smaller memory size being used.
When using the texture cache this option is implied.

--hash-parallel [-H] scrypt also has a small SHA256 or Keccak component:
0 hashes this single threaded on the CPU.
1 to enable multithreaded hashing on the CPU.
2 offloads everything to the GPU (default)

a b U Graphics card
March 4, 2014 6:59:06 PM

Can you mine with a Amd and Nvidia cards together on the same Mobo? Does it matter which drivers are installed or which is the main driver?
a b U Graphics card
March 4, 2014 7:47:58 PM

ohyouknow said:
Can you mine with a Amd and Nvidia cards together on the same Mobo? Does it matter which drivers are installed or which is the main driver?


No you'd get serious driver conflicts if you attempted to run that.
March 5, 2014 2:42:52 PM

g-unit1111 said:
ohyouknow said:
Can you mine with a Amd and Nvidia cards together on the same Mobo? Does it matter which drivers are installed or which is the main driver?


No you'd get serious driver conflicts if you attempted to run that.


What if you started using the motherboard using latest WARE (softWARE, bios included) so the other card was used using a virtual machine using a different miner using different settings using different driver in the virtual machine?I think you wont get conf.used cuz the card/s wont get ab.used?
a b U Graphics card
March 5, 2014 4:08:48 PM

d359233drdrbcom said:
What if you started using the motherboard using latest WARE (softWARE, bios included) so the other card was used using a virtual machine using a different miner using different settings using different driver in the virtual machine?I think you wont get conf.used cuz the card/s wont get ab.used?


I'm not entirely sure I understand the question here. There's no PC that will run AMD and NVIDIA GPUs simultaneously since there's no drivers that will allow the two different GPUs from different manufacturers. I would not think that running them in tandem via virtual machine would do anything either. You pretty much have to have one or the other.
a b U Graphics card
March 5, 2014 4:33:38 PM

I had two 780's and a 6850 in my machine. Both AMD and nVidia drivers. Drivers are drivers any way one slices it... Installed the full GeForce package and only AMD display drivers. Mined with no problems...
a c 97 U Graphics card
March 6, 2014 3:05:15 PM

It is sad that TH is encouraging people to make builds just for mining.

Mining with a normal rig on the side is just fine, but component hoarding is not
a b U Graphics card
March 6, 2014 3:09:34 PM

smeezekitty said:
It is sad that TH is encouraging people to make builds just for mining.

Mining with a normal rig on the side is just fine, but component hoarding is not


Component hoarding? lol. Fisrt they're not promoting anything, it's a discussion about it. Second, people can buy video cards if they want. IT's not hoarding, it's buying video cards. Shessh.
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 4:13:53 AM

What's the problem with someone going out and buying 200 cards with their own money? Good investment/Bad investment it soesn't matter, it's none of my buisiness.
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 9:26:58 AM

Of course, they're not stealing the cards, I know that.
But money doesn't absolutely transmute to the purchased goods.
Suppose tomorrow, gas is in short supply, so governments around the world will automatically ban those cars which consume a lot of fuel(like many exotic cars, as they only give a mileage of around 5 km/l or 12 mpg at most) and encourage cars running on solar power or electricity.
Because of guys that buy cards in such huge amounts, the retailers have driven up prices(even if cards are available) and those wanting to install r9 290's in their gaming rigs to play BF4 have to buy the card at very high prices.(Graphics cards aren't exactly cheap anyway, I had to save money for months to be able to buy a GTX650 card.)

[removed - watch the personal attacks.]
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 10:01:43 AM

cst1992 said:
Of course, they're not stealing the cards, I know that.
But money doesn't absolutely transmute to the purchased goods.
Suppose tomorrow, gas is in short supply, so governments around the world will automatically ban those cars which consume a lot of fuel(like many exotic cars, as they only give a mileage of around 5 km/l or 12 mpg at most) and encourage cars running on solar power or electricity.
Because of guys that buy cards in such huge amounts, the retailers have driven up prices(even if cards are available) and those wanting to install r9 290's in their gaming rigs to play BF4 have to buy the card at very high prices.(Graphics cards aren't exactly cheap anyway, I had to save money for months to be able to buy a GTX650 card.)

Rustywasp said:
Can anyone recommend me a mining rig for $500?


Don't mind me asking, but are you a troll or something?
$500 doesn't even buy a mid-end gaming rig, much less a mining rig.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 10:34:42 AM

cst1992 said:


And your point is...?


Defensive huh? You know what my point is... counter to your ranting on a mining thread.

There are others like it... and are about $100 cheaper than 3rd party GTX 780ti's.

Retailers were charging more for AMD cards because people were under the impression nVidia cards couldn't mine (and still are). I've said it for a while now - prices would fall back in line. And they are... you could have saved the fictional anecdote.

If people are foolish enough to pay way above MSRP for a card, who's fault is that. Theirs or the retailers?
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 10:42:49 AM

I'm well aware the mining craze is going to die down.
You have a point though -- miners are mainly buying reference cards.
and AMD cards have always been cheaper than NVIDIA cards.
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 10:47:43 AM

cst1992 said:
I'm well aware the mining craze is going to die down.
You have a point though -- miners are mainly buying reference cards.
and AMD cards have always been cheaper than NVIDIA cards.


It's not dying down, people are buying nVidia cards now because of the efficiency. And to be honest, configuring an nVidia card is much easier than configuring an AMD card. Single launch config vs thread concurrency, gpu threads and intensity.

a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 10:52:45 AM

I just hope NVIDIA cards don't skyrocket too -- here in India the 780Ti costs around $950 already -- because of this mining craze, it'll become more expensive. And I'm only talking about reference cards.
a c 201 U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 10:53:02 AM

What changes is the alternate coin being mined. Bitcoin started it all, but the network hash rate and associated difficulty have now rendered GPU mining obsolete. Litecoin uses a different hashing algorithm for which it may not be possible to cost-effectively design and build ASICs, so GPU mining for them may go on for quite some time.
a c 97 U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 11:06:28 AM

If Maxwell scales like the 750/750ti, the miners will definitely be on to it.

And now we get the fools gold chasers buying both brands up and driving the prices up.
Isn't that great?
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 11:38:03 AM

smeezekitty said:
If Maxwell scales like the 750/750ti, the miners will definitely be on to it.

And now we get the fools gold chasers buying both brands up and driving the prices up.
Isn't that great?



What's fools gold? Something that has actual work behind it or something that is printed out of thin air by some private bankster that lends it out with interest?

a c 201 U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 11:43:02 AM

There are downsides, very definitely. I lost 2BTC myself when Mt. Gox croaked. Of course, people stand to lose a LOT more when the banksters' schemes unravel later this year. Ah, but all that is for News & Leisure, or perhaps another site entirely...

Let's try and keep this one technical please.
a c 97 U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 11:47:09 AM

RussK1 said:
smeezekitty said:
If Maxwell scales like the 750/750ti, the miners will definitely be on to it.

And now we get the fools gold chasers buying both brands up and driving the prices up.
Isn't that great?



What's fools gold? Something that has actual work behind it or something that is printed out of thin air by some private bankster that lends it out with interest?



haha real work?
Wasting power to crack useless hashes

Printed out of thin air vs digital data.
Well you know. It is all kind of just digital data at this point that is ready to fail
if there is a major disaster. ahh screw it all.

a c 201 U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 11:52:49 AM

The power used for hashing is the price of shedding the bonds of centralized control. There are pros and cons, and the debate will rage on until / unless our currency is once again backed by something tangible. Anyway, I think it is safest to assume that those who are here have already decided for themselves about the merits of crypto-currency.
a b U Graphics card
March 7, 2014 12:00:23 PM

smeezekitty said:
RussK1 said:
smeezekitty said:
If Maxwell scales like the 750/750ti, the miners will definitely be on to it.

And now we get the fools gold chasers buying both brands up and driving the prices up.
Isn't that great?



What's fools gold? Something that has actual work behind it or something that is printed out of thin air by some private bankster that lends it out with interest?



haha real work?
Wasting power to crack useless hashes

Printed out of thin air vs digital data.
Well you know. It is all kind of just digital data at this point that is ready to fail
if there is a major disaster. ahh screw it all.



Ignorance is bliss.

It's such a wasted effort I was able to buy a 240Gb Crucial M500 and pay my electric bill (which I had to pay anyway) and still have left-over coin. All in a months time...



!