What happened to the flight from Malaysia to Beijing?
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musical marv
March 11, 2014 5:44:42 PM
soldier44
March 11, 2014 5:49:23 PM
One thing is sure the Malaysian authorities know more than they are saying, as do the Chinese.
Its got something to do with all of those Freescale employees going to China if you ask me.
My guess is there were some new ARM lithographic plates on the plane ... that someone didn't want to go to China ... an IP thing.
Thats my conspiracy theory.
Its got something to do with all of those Freescale employees going to China if you ask me.
My guess is there were some new ARM lithographic plates on the plane ... that someone didn't want to go to China ... an IP thing.
Thats my conspiracy theory.
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musical marv
March 12, 2014 5:41:19 PM
gropouce
March 13, 2014 2:03:45 AM
musical marv
March 13, 2014 5:33:09 PM
musical marv
March 14, 2014 5:56:12 PM
Oldmangamer_73 said:
Hard to believe in this day and age. I can't believe no other radar picked it up. India has a Navy and they patrol the Indian Ocean. None of their ships picked up a large contact not traveling in the normal commercial air lanes?Score
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This seems to be a complete hijack. Whether it be from someone of the crew, or passengers, this seems to be completely deliberate. The plane took completely unscheduled routes, that would require human intervention, radar has them hours beyond the transponder going off.
This plane was turned around, and headed back to Afghanistan/Pakistan area. History is no proof of the present, but it doesn't look good on that area.
This plane was turned around, and headed back to Afghanistan/Pakistan area. History is no proof of the present, but it doesn't look good on that area.
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musical marv
March 17, 2014 5:16:01 PM
gropouce
March 17, 2014 11:15:21 PM
musical marv
March 18, 2014 5:39:40 PM
USAFRet said:
Either it is crashed somewhere, or it has landed somewhere.Crashed....why have there been zero debris seen yet?
Landed....none of the passengers have a cell phone? None of them?
10 days, 239 people...that's a lot of meals and bathroom breaks.
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macbrian
March 19, 2014 5:42:30 AM
there's an interesting article in Wired magazine that there might have been a fire. Which would explain the change of course, as the plane seems to have been headed to the closest airport. The article is very comprehensive, but then again, there are other things that are not explained, like with the cellphones that kept ringing.
The whole thing is very mysterious and leaves a lot of room for speculation, obviously. You try not to be influenced by all the media hype around it, but they're not making this very easy...
The whole thing is very mysterious and leaves a lot of room for speculation, obviously. You try not to be influenced by all the media hype around it, but they're not making this very easy...
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musical marv
March 19, 2014 5:33:07 PM
macbrian said:
there's an interesting article in Wired magazine that there might have been a fire. Which would explain the change of course, as the plane seems to have been headed to the closest airport. The article is very comprehensive, but then again, there are other things that are not explained, like with the cellphones that kept ringing. The whole thing is very mysterious and leaves a lot of room for speculation, obviously. You try not to be influenced by all the media hype around it, but they're not making this very easy...
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macbrian
March 20, 2014 4:18:16 AM
now the might have found parts that are possibly related to it. Who knows, even if this proves to be more than a clue, how much longer it will take them to find the blackbox. (think two years for the Air France tragedy). But, since these news broke, shouldn't they have narrowed down the search area and found more parts on satellite images from around that area?
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Oldmangamer_73 said:
Apparently the B2 bomber is NOT the stealthiest aircraft in the skies.
If the newest wreckage is part of flight 370 it means it flew for another 7 hours+ after signal loss.
Not if it was carried there by the currents. If the plane did go down, that debris has been floating around for almost 2 weeks.
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musical marv
March 20, 2014 5:38:15 PM
Take 5 odd hours to get out there ... which if they left at dawn means about an hou to get to the search site now ... then they only have enough fuel for a couple of hours in the P3's then they have to come back.
The P8 the yanks have can stay a bit longer.
If we are lucky and the weather gets better they might know more in a couple of hours but its a big area.
Also the weather out there is bad.
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/
The P8 the yanks have can stay a bit longer.
If we are lucky and the weather gets better they might know more in a couple of hours but its a big area.
Also the weather out there is bad.
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/
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Reynod said:
Take 5 odd hours to get out there ... which if they left at dawn means about an hou to get to the search site now ... then they only have enough fuel for a couple of hours in the P3's then they have to come back.The P8 the yanks have can stay a bit longer.
If we are lucky and the weather gets better they might know more in a couple of hours but its a big area.
Also the weather out there is bad.
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/
You boys down under have any air craft carriers to send out for landing and refueling?
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aford10 said:
Reynod said:
Take 5 odd hours to get out there ... which if they left at dawn means about an hou to get to the search site now ... then they only have enough fuel for a couple of hours in the P3's then they have to come back.The P8 the yanks have can stay a bit longer.
If we are lucky and the weather gets better they might know more in a couple of hours but its a big area.
Also the weather out there is bad.
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/
You boys down under have any air craft carriers to send out for landing and refueling?
No, they don't. And you can't land a P3/P8 on a carrier in any case. Too large.
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We are building a couple of aircraft carriers tho technically they are for helicopters ... we should have bought one of the old US supercarriers (non-nuclear) and refitted it with new paint etc ... I am pretty sure they have 7 or so mothballed somewhere.
Those older carriers were a fantastic platform.
We should have one stationed on the West coast for this sort of thing ... and for fishing on weekends ... parties ... an extra wifi point ... the peaceful uses are endless.
Putting green ...
Those older carriers were a fantastic platform.
We should have one stationed on the West coast for this sort of thing ... and for fishing on weekends ... parties ... an extra wifi point ... the peaceful uses are endless.
Putting green ...
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http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/american-n...
I see the US News networks are about as competent as the Malay Govt.
I see the US News networks are about as competent as the Malay Govt.
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macbrian
March 21, 2014 3:08:08 AM
the search area is massive (http://www.statista.com/chart/2024/the-search-area-for-...), and so far we don't even know if the parts spotted on the satellite pics are even related to the plane. The area where the parts where spotted seems to be an area where a lot of garbage and lost parts float around - many times containers or other large cargo just falls off the side of ships
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Let's just hope this comes to an end, soon.
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Let's just hope this comes to an end, soon.
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Oldmangamer_73 said:
USAFRet said:
aford10 said:
Reynod said:
Take 5 odd hours to get out there ... which if they left at dawn means about an hou to get to the search site now ... then they only have enough fuel for a couple of hours in the P3's then they have to come back.The P8 the yanks have can stay a bit longer.
If we are lucky and the weather gets better they might know more in a couple of hours but its a big area.
Also the weather out there is bad.
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/
You boys down under have any air craft carriers to send out for landing and refueling?
No, they don't. And you can't land a P3/P8 on a carrier in any case. Too large.
If a US Navy carrier was in the area they would be using E-2Cs and A-6 Intruders. A-6s are still a very capable aircraft for being as old as it is. The refitted A-6s with the latest ELINT package could be effective.
Yes, if a carrier was in the area.
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musical marv
March 21, 2014 5:48:53 PM
Reynod said:
Take 5 odd hours to get out there ... which if they left at dawn means about an hou to get to the search site now ... then they only have enough fuel for a couple of hours in the P3's then they have to come back.The P8 the yanks have can stay a bit longer.
If we are lucky and the weather gets better they might know more in a couple of hours but its a big area.
Also the weather out there is bad.
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/
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Two Chinese planes rocked up today to help ... read the official story on the chinese website which looks like they have come to lead the search and takeover ... with their two old 1970 vintage jets made in the USSR.
Pompous wankers.
Still glad they are here to help.
It would be nice if they were humble like everyone else ... look at the Kiwis ... they sent a P3 straight away ... the pilots prolly flew straight through ... slept 4hrs then went out the next morning.
xinhuanet ... you know the one.
Chinese propaganda site.
Sickening ...
Pompous wankers.
Still glad they are here to help.
It would be nice if they were humble like everyone else ... look at the Kiwis ... they sent a P3 straight away ... the pilots prolly flew straight through ... slept 4hrs then went out the next morning.
xinhuanet ... you know the one.
Chinese propaganda site.
Sickening ...
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musical marv
March 22, 2014 5:50:36 PM
Actually I think they are just running and ducking for cover ... apart from the turnaround and transponder issue they should have alerted people to straight away, instead of waiting nearly a week. They have contributed nothing, and continue to contribute nothing but rhetoric.
So much for them handling the search and rescue ... they couldn't handle a pissup in a brewery.
When your family has been in power as long as Gadaffi you don't really care what others think, unless they threaten your power base.
What Malaysia need is a new Govt ... even if it is as bad as messy old Thailand, surely its better than the current "royal family".
The country might be relatively stable but it is corrupt and as transparent as a brick window.
In particular the relatives of those on the plane have not been counselled, reassured and made as comfortable as possible.
Malaysia I am horrified to see has little understanding of the Chinese, and how to reassure their families.
So much for my assumption (as a Westerner) that they would know how to handle/ reassure fellow asian neighbours ... they seem clueless.
So much for them handling the search and rescue ... they couldn't handle a pissup in a brewery.
When your family has been in power as long as Gadaffi you don't really care what others think, unless they threaten your power base.
What Malaysia need is a new Govt ... even if it is as bad as messy old Thailand, surely its better than the current "royal family".
The country might be relatively stable but it is corrupt and as transparent as a brick window.
In particular the relatives of those on the plane have not been counselled, reassured and made as comfortable as possible.
Malaysia I am horrified to see has little understanding of the Chinese, and how to reassure their families.
So much for my assumption (as a Westerner) that they would know how to handle/ reassure fellow asian neighbours ... they seem clueless.
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king256
March 24, 2014 7:53:12 PM
teddymines
May 21, 2014 8:20:17 AM
This topic has been quiet for a while, and I haven't heard any new news. This almost feels like there is a deliberate effort underway to conceal the truth, similar to the age-old tactic of a police force promising a "full and thorough internal investigation" to get to the heart of a scandal, using that as a stall tactic until the public loses interest and forgets about the scandal.
My theory is that the plane was intentionally depressurized at high altitude until the passengers all succumbed to lack of oxygen. They were then quietly killed while unconscious, their cell phones confiscated and destroyed, and the plane then landed safely in a remote area. I have a bad feeling that it is being rigged with explosives or dirty bomb materials, and will make an appearance a couple years from now when conditions are right. It might be possible for this plane to "impersonate" another. I hope I am wrong.
My theory is that the plane was intentionally depressurized at high altitude until the passengers all succumbed to lack of oxygen. They were then quietly killed while unconscious, their cell phones confiscated and destroyed, and the plane then landed safely in a remote area. I have a bad feeling that it is being rigged with explosives or dirty bomb materials, and will make an appearance a couple years from now when conditions are right. It might be possible for this plane to "impersonate" another. I hope I am wrong.
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musical marv
May 21, 2014 5:45:50 PM
teddymines said:
This topic has been quiet for a while, and I haven't heard any new news. This almost feels like there is a deliberate effort underway to conceal the truth, similar to the age-old tactic of a police force promising a "full and thorough internal investigation" to get to the heart of a scandal, using that as a stall tactic until the public loses interest and forgets about the scandal.My theory is that the plane was intentionally depressurized at high altitude until the passengers all succumbed to lack of oxygen. They were then quietly killed while unconscious, their cell phones confiscated and destroyed, and the plane then landed safely in a remote area. I have a bad feeling that it is being rigged with explosives or dirty bomb materials, and will make an appearance a couple years from now when conditions are right. It might be possible for this plane to "impersonate" another. I hope I am wrong.
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teddymines
May 22, 2014 5:23:48 AM
musical marv said:
teddymines said:
This topic has been quiet for a while, and I haven't heard any new news. This almost feels like there is a deliberate effort underway to conceal the truth, similar to the age-old tactic of a police force promising a "full and thorough internal investigation" to get to the heart of a scandal, using that as a stall tactic until the public loses interest and forgets about the scandal.My theory is that the plane was intentionally depressurized at high altitude until the passengers all succumbed to lack of oxygen. They were then quietly killed while unconscious, their cell phones confiscated and destroyed, and the plane then landed safely in a remote area. I have a bad feeling that it is being rigged with explosives or dirty bomb materials, and will make an appearance a couple years from now when conditions are right. It might be possible for this plane to "impersonate" another. I hope I am wrong.
Problem is, people you and I consider to be innocent are guilty in the eyes of others. I hope I am wrong as well, but the fact that nothing has been recovered makes me highly suspicious. In fact, even if some personal belongings were somehow "recovered" I would still tend to be suspicious.
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musical marv
May 22, 2014 5:51:56 PM
teddymines said:
musical marv said:
teddymines said:
This topic has been quiet for a while, and I haven't heard any new news. This almost feels like there is a deliberate effort underway to conceal the truth, similar to the age-old tactic of a police force promising a "full and thorough internal investigation" to get to the heart of a scandal, using that as a stall tactic until the public loses interest and forgets about the scandal.My theory is that the plane was intentionally depressurized at high altitude until the passengers all succumbed to lack of oxygen. They were then quietly killed while unconscious, their cell phones confiscated and destroyed, and the plane then landed safely in a remote area. I have a bad feeling that it is being rigged with explosives or dirty bomb materials, and will make an appearance a couple years from now when conditions are right. It might be possible for this plane to "impersonate" another. I hope I am wrong.
Problem is, people you and I consider to be innocent are guilty in the eyes of others. I hope I am wrong as well, but the fact that nothing has been recovered makes me highly suspicious. In fact, even if some personal belongings were somehow "recovered" I would still tend to be suspicious.
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http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/missing-ma...
Short story .. Our PM lied about the pings to generate a story to shift media attention away from jhis crazy ideas about bringing back Knighthoods in Australia ... which is widely unpopular.
Most of us are sick and tired of the British Monarchy and consider them a complete joke.
Short story .. Our PM lied about the pings to generate a story to shift media attention away from jhis crazy ideas about bringing back Knighthoods in Australia ... which is widely unpopular.
Most of us are sick and tired of the British Monarchy and consider them a complete joke.
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