AMD FX6300 vs 8350 vs i5 4570

Smassive

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Hi,

I am about to do a fairly big upgrade to my system. I am currently looking at the following:

AMD FX6300,
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P
8gb RAM
Powercolor R9 270 gpu
240gb SSD

My budget has been fairly tight but I may have another £100 or so. Would I be better swapping the 6300 for a i5 4570, go for a 8350 with a slightly better gpu or keep the 6300 and put it all into a better gpu?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Read this article as well:
 

Smassive

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Hi Thanks guys,

It is mainly for gaming, though I'm not expecting everything to run on maxed settings. I have read on other threads that the CPU isn't really a bottle neck unless running a high end graphics card. I have a budget of around £500 for a CPU, MB, GPU and ideally an SSD. Also need a couple of minor things but can possibly extend budget slightly for these.

I had initially got the above items to around £400, but with the extra I might have I was wondering whether to invest in better CPU or GPU performance.

Cheers
 

CooLWoLF

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If you can swing it, swap out the motherboard for a 990fx board and overclock the 6300. You will have a very decent rig then. Might be an extra $50.
 
Here's one with an i5 4570:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOdN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOdN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOdN/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£137.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£54.37 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£95.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card (£128.75 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £476.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-16 15:24 GMT+0000)

And here's one with what you were looking at:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOfR
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOfR/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOfR/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£47.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£95.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card (£128.75 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £409.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-16 15:25 GMT+0000)

The FX 6300 does bottleneck in CPU intensive games. I know having owned one myself and from various reports from many other users. In some titles that don't strain the CPU as much it should be good. However you'd need to heavily overclock it to get it anywhere near the performance of the 4570.

As you've already pointed out, you could drop some extra cash into a better GPU. I personally would not be happy with the 6300, and I guess it's dependent on what you're going to play. Any particular titles? I would change the motherboard to a GA-970A-UD3 personally if you want to try and alleviate the bottleneck through overclocking (8+2 power phase vs the 4+1 in the DS3P), but you'd need a strong aftermarket cooler too.

To try and match the intel through overclocking you'd be looking at something like this, with a higher heat output, more strain on components (shorter lifetime) and more power draw:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOlp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOlp/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aOlp/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.89 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£71.99 @ Maplin Electronics)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£95.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card (£128.75 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £491.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-16 15:28 GMT+0000)

In the UK the prices are quite skewed, that it makes almost no sense to make an FX build unless you're on a very strict budget. Personally, I'd drop to a 120GB SSD and get a stronger GPU like a GTX 760 if you can squeeze it in, and go with the intel build. The fact is that the stronger single core performance of the intels is still extremely beneficial.
 
If you have the 100$ extra you should swap your CPU instead of the motherboard for overclocking the 6300.Since your motherboard is one with the AM3+ socket,I would recommend you to go with the 8350,if you wish to get the 4570 then you also need to swap your mobo for a LGA 1150 socket.And the 8350 is also futureproof as the same chips are being use in the PS4 and Xbox one.Your GPU is nice and with the 8350,your rig well balanced
 


The same chips are not being used in the consoles.
 

CTurbo

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1. The FX8350 is just an overclocked FX8320 so the FX8320 is a MUCH better value. (about $40 difference)

2. The FX6300 is a great value, but it is closer in performance to a Haswell i3 than i5. Even the i5 4440 would be way better.

3. The i5 4440 is $20 cheaper than the i5 4570 right now making it a pretty good value.

4. AMDs aren't as cheap as they seem. To get the best performance from them you need to overclock, and to overclock, you need to spend more money on a better motherboard and an aftermarket cooler. Look how a $109 FX6300 costs the same in the end as an $179 i5 4440

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1SdmQ
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $229.97

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1J1oo
CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $229.98

Even at maximum overclock, the FX6300 doesn't stand a chance against the i5 4440.


5. The FX 8350 has absolutely nothing to do with the 8 core cpus in the Xbox and PS4.

6. The FX 8350 is no more future proof than i5 3570k.

7. The i5 4570 beats the FX8350 in gaming 95% of the time no matter how overclocked the FX8350 is, and it costs less doing so.
 

nexus007

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For gaming, i5 all the way. AMDs are not bad, but they just don't seem right to me. I like how a puny dual core i3-3xxx or even i3-2xxx with HT and measer clocks of 3-3.3 GHz easily compete with AMD's screaming in your face 6-8 cores clocked 3.7-4.2 GHz and all the more while sapping half the energy. Intels are cool for me. AMDs are not bad mind you, for the price they give you the 6-8 cores is really good, provided you do not try and overclock them to gain single-core performance and thus lose out on CPU coolers, power consumption, etc. Just that the games are yet to be better-ly (if thats a word :p) multi-threaded. Even in games such as Crysis3/BF4 which support upto 6 cores, the AMDs are up against i5s, but they still don't beat them anywhere close to completely.
 

logainofhades

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This is just to show the craziness of spending that much on an FX 6300 overclocking rig. The price is so close to the overclocking rig in Jook-D's build, it would be silly to buy FX.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£185.88 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£54.37 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£49.94 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (£143.00 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £492.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-17 18:40 GMT+0000)

 


Exactly :cheese:
 

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