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April 21, 2014 7:27:52 PM

So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.

More about : 270x 4gb 7970ghz

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April 21, 2014 7:31:07 PM

The 270X has similar performance to a 760, which the 7970 beats. So it would be a technical downgrade.
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April 21, 2014 9:14:41 PM

Is this your friend offering the trade? If so I would get a new friend!
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April 21, 2014 9:34:46 PM

Keep the 7970 as it is better even tho it has less vram it has a bigger memory bus
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April 21, 2014 9:39:41 PM

syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.
April 22, 2014 3:46:50 AM

Thanks guys! I was looking for that virtual slap in the face to bring me back to my senses ;) 

Nobody was offering me a trade, I bought it for my friend for the build I'm doing for them, but started to wonder if her needs outweighed mine.

I'll keep my beast.
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a c 78 U Graphics card
April 22, 2014 3:59:15 AM

Yeah dont do it, the 270x is a worse card. The 7970 is basically the same card as the R9 280x.
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April 22, 2014 3:19:22 PM

Gam3r01 said:
The 270X has similar performance to a 760, which the 7970 beats. So it would be a technical downgrade.


7970 obviously beats the 270 since 7970 = R9 280 -_-
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April 22, 2014 3:21:03 PM

renz496 said:
syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.


270x is not just a rebranded card, but its 45% stronger than 7870 ghz edition. The GPU has more processing power = more FPS = better for relatively similar prices.
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a c 149 U Graphics card
April 22, 2014 5:07:38 PM

meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.


270x is not just a rebranded card, but its 45% stronger than 7870 ghz edition. The GPU has more processing power = more FPS = better for relatively similar prices.


where did you get that 45% stronger number? the test showed that the performance difference between the two is only in 10% range

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_270X_Gaming/2...
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April 22, 2014 5:36:07 PM

7870/r9-270, whatever the demonination... is the same card, there are no differences at all. the only difference in core speed out the box, thats it... a pitcairn gpu with 1280 stream processors. the ghz or x models are just clocked higher. the 270x is not even close to a 670/760.... the old 7870le(xt) was an "actual" tahiti chip, though highly gimped, and still was a step behind the 670, where as the slightly gimped tahiti hd7950 was more or less on par with the 670 while the 7970 was on par with the 680 or 770, equal to a 280x. amd released the 7970ghz, which is just a binned chip meant to operate out of the box at over 1000mhz, still no difference over a regular 7970. most 7970s would overclock that high anyways, especially early revisions that where not voltage locked so the sky was the limit with water.

keep your 7970ghz, its still a very good gpu by todays standard.
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April 22, 2014 7:29:10 PM

nikoli707 said:
7870/r9-270, whatever the demonination... is the same card, there are no differences at all. the only difference in core speed out the box, thats it... a pitcairn gpu with 1280 stream processors. the ghz or x models are just clocked higher. the 270x is not even close to a 670/760.... the old 7870le(xt) was an "actual" tahiti chip, though highly gimped, and still was a step behind the 670, where as the slightly gimped tahiti hd7950 was more or less on par with the 670 while the 7970 was on par with the 680 or 770, equal to a 280x. amd released the 7970ghz, which is just a binned chip meant to operate out of the box at over 1000mhz, still no difference over a regular 7970. most 7970s would overclock that high anyways, especially early revisions that where not voltage locked so the sky was the limit with water.

keep your 7970ghz, its still a very good gpu by todays standard.


Only 10% off is fairly close to a 760. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_270X_HAWK/26....
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April 23, 2014 2:42:57 AM

renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The performance increase is posted by AMD themselves on their website.

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.


270x is not just a rebranded card, but its 45% stronger than 7870 ghz edition. The GPU has more processing power = more FPS = better for relatively similar prices.


where did you get that 45% stronger number? the test showed that the performance difference between the two is only in 10% range

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_270X_Gaming/2...


AMD in their introduction and debut of the card created a very simple graphic to demonstrate. They did not list R9 270X but you could guess how much more processing power is added. R9 270 has 35% more power than HD7850. So comparing the HD7870 vs R9 270X 35-40% GPU power is very close estimate.

http://www.eteknix.com/asus-amd-radeon-r9-270-direct-cu...

Take a look at the AMD introduction when the R9 270 first came out.

Btw, relative performance is not necessarily an accurate chart to go off since the performance % changes a lot depending on CPU used, Ram speed, SSD, and manufacturer of the GPU cards itself. Asus, MSI, etc.... all used different chips to make their cards and each has different tolerances so performance stats fluctuate heavily. Also it depends the application and such they are testing off of. Some applications prefer AMD and some prefer Nvidia. So I never go and actually look at the performance statistics as 90% of any statistics can be altered by changes in variables.

Its better to actually go look at what AMD does in their explanation of GPU processing power rather than performance numbers.

And don't forget depending on when they tested the card vs the test if done today, the drivers significantly boost performance beyond the their stated 10%. AMD is pretty well known for their drivers to increase games performance by a lot around 15-30% (this is as stated on catalyst update notes on which games it improves).
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a c 149 U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 3:17:41 AM

meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The performance increase is posted by AMD themselves on their website.

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.


270x is not just a rebranded card, but its 45% stronger than 7870 ghz edition. The GPU has more processing power = more FPS = better for relatively similar prices.


where did you get that 45% stronger number? the test showed that the performance difference between the two is only in 10% range

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_270X_Gaming/2...


AMD in their introduction and debut of the card created a very simple graphic to demonstrate. They did not list R9 270X but you could guess how much more processing power is added. R9 270 has 35% more power than HD7850. So comparing the HD7870 vs R9 270X 35-40% GPU power is very close estimate.

http://www.eteknix.com/asus-amd-radeon-r9-270-direct-cu...

Take a look at the AMD introduction when the R9 270 first came out.

Btw, relative performance is not necessarily an accurate chart to go off since the performance % changes a lot depending on CPU used, Ram speed, SSD, and manufacturer of the GPU cards itself. Asus, MSI, etc.... all used different chips to make their cards and each has different tolerances so performance stats fluctuate heavily. Also it depends the application and such they are testing off of. Some applications prefer AMD and some prefer Nvidia. So I never go and actually look at the performance statistics as 90% of any statistics can be altered by changes in variables.

Its better to actually go look at what AMD does in their explanation of GPU processing power rather than performance numbers.

And don't forget depending on when they tested the card vs the test if done today, the drivers significantly boost performance beyond the their stated 10%. AMD is pretty well known for their drivers to increase games performance by a lot around 15-30% (this is as stated on catalyst update notes on which games it improves).


don't talk about estimates. show me the hard data showing that 270X have 40%-45% more FPS than 7870 Ghz edition. how can 270X have significant more performance than 7870 Ghz when the chip were using the very same chip (Pitcairn), same memory interface (256bit) and clocked almost similarly to each other. (1050Mhz vs 1000Mhz). the 10% gap between the two most likely coming from higher bandwidth of 270X since the RAM were clocked a bit higher in 270X than 7870 Ghz.
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April 23, 2014 3:38:21 AM

renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The performance increase is posted by AMD themselves on their website.

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.


270x is not just a rebranded card, but its 45% stronger than 7870 ghz edition. The GPU has more processing power = more FPS = better for relatively similar prices.


where did you get that 45% stronger number? the test showed that the performance difference between the two is only in 10% range

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_270X_Gaming/2...


AMD in their introduction and debut of the card created a very simple graphic to demonstrate. They did not list R9 270X but you could guess how much more processing power is added. R9 270 has 35% more power than HD7850. So comparing the HD7870 vs R9 270X 35-40% GPU power is very close estimate.

http://www.eteknix.com/asus-amd-radeon-r9-270-direct-cu...

Take a look at the AMD introduction when the R9 270 first came out.

Btw, relative performance is not necessarily an accurate chart to go off since the performance % changes a lot depending on CPU used, Ram speed, SSD, and manufacturer of the GPU cards itself. Asus, MSI, etc.... all used different chips to make their cards and each has different tolerances so performance stats fluctuate heavily. Also it depends the application and such they are testing off of. Some applications prefer AMD and some prefer Nvidia. So I never go and actually look at the performance statistics as 90% of any statistics can be altered by changes in variables.

Its better to actually go look at what AMD does in their explanation of GPU processing power rather than performance numbers.

And don't forget depending on when they tested the card vs the test if done today, the drivers significantly boost performance beyond the their stated 10%. AMD is pretty well known for their drivers to increase games performance by a lot around 15-30% (this is as stated on catalyst update notes on which games it improves).


don't talk about estimates. show me the hard data showing that 270X have 40%-45% more FPS than 7870 Ghz edition. how can 270X have significant more performance than 7870 Ghz when the chip were using the very same chip (Pitcairn), same memory interface (256bit) and clocked almost similarly to each other. (1050Mhz vs 1000Mhz). the 10% gap between the two most likely coming from higher bandwidth of 270X since the RAM were clocked a bit higher in 270X than 7870 Ghz.


Memory bandwidth is 17% better as stated by http://www.hwcompare.com/15678/radeon-hd-7870-vs-radeon...

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-Radeon-HD-787...

As GPU boss stated in 3D mark 11 the 270X achieved 40% better scoring than 7870 and in 3d mark vantage its 20% better than 7870. There is your number. Its not 10%, its 40%. 3d mark 11 is a better benchmark use to stress the card to test its performance than the stats used by techpowerup.
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April 23, 2014 3:47:54 AM

Dont bother with GPU boss and hwcompare, most of their theoretical figures dont translate to the real world.

In game benchmarks (where it matters) its less than 10% difference usually:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1034?vs=1043
a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 3:51:46 AM

RobCrezz said:
Dont bother with GPU boss and hwcompare, most of their theoretical figures dont translate to the real world.

In game benchmarks (where it matters) its less than 10% difference usually:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1034?vs=1043


It depends it may be more than 10% since the R9 270 has newer API's and the drivers support it better. AMD drivers always makes drastic performance increases.
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a c 149 U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 4:07:32 AM

meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The performance increase is posted by AMD themselves on their website.

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.


270x is not just a rebranded card, but its 45% stronger than 7870 ghz edition. The GPU has more processing power = more FPS = better for relatively similar prices.


where did you get that 45% stronger number? the test showed that the performance difference between the two is only in 10% range

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_270X_Gaming/2...


AMD in their introduction and debut of the card created a very simple graphic to demonstrate. They did not list R9 270X but you could guess how much more processing power is added. R9 270 has 35% more power than HD7850. So comparing the HD7870 vs R9 270X 35-40% GPU power is very close estimate.

http://www.eteknix.com/asus-amd-radeon-r9-270-direct-cu...

Take a look at the AMD introduction when the R9 270 first came out.

Btw, relative performance is not necessarily an accurate chart to go off since the performance % changes a lot depending on CPU used, Ram speed, SSD, and manufacturer of the GPU cards itself. Asus, MSI, etc.... all used different chips to make their cards and each has different tolerances so performance stats fluctuate heavily. Also it depends the application and such they are testing off of. Some applications prefer AMD and some prefer Nvidia. So I never go and actually look at the performance statistics as 90% of any statistics can be altered by changes in variables.

Its better to actually go look at what AMD does in their explanation of GPU processing power rather than performance numbers.

And don't forget depending on when they tested the card vs the test if done today, the drivers significantly boost performance beyond the their stated 10%. AMD is pretty well known for their drivers to increase games performance by a lot around 15-30% (this is as stated on catalyst update notes on which games it improves).


don't talk about estimates. show me the hard data showing that 270X have 40%-45% more FPS than 7870 Ghz edition. how can 270X have significant more performance than 7870 Ghz when the chip were using the very same chip (Pitcairn), same memory interface (256bit) and clocked almost similarly to each other. (1050Mhz vs 1000Mhz). the 10% gap between the two most likely coming from higher bandwidth of 270X since the RAM were clocked a bit higher in 270X than 7870 Ghz.


Memory bandwidth is 17% better as stated by http://www.hwcompare.com/15678/radeon-hd-7870-vs-radeon...

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-Radeon-HD-787...

As GPU boss stated in 3D mark 11 the 270X achieved 40% better scoring than 7870 and in 3d mark vantage its 20% better than 7870. There is your number. Its not 10%, its 40%. 3d mark 11 is a better benchmark use to stress the card to test its performance than the stats used by techpowerup.


when gpuboss make the comparison did they use the same drivers? or did they just take the numbers from any review done when both gpu initially comes out and directly compare the numbers? the test done on guru3d shows that the difference between 270X and 7870 is around 10% between each other in 3D MArk 11:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_270x...
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a c 149 U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 4:10:35 AM

meat_loaf said:
RobCrezz said:
Dont bother with GPU boss and hwcompare, most of their theoretical figures dont translate to the real world.

In game benchmarks (where it matters) its less than 10% difference usually:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1034?vs=1043


It depends it may be more than 10% since the R9 270 has newer API's and the drivers support it better. AMD drivers always makes drastic performance increases.


and so does 7870.
a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 4:11:21 AM

RobCrezz said:
Dont bother with GPU boss and hwcompare, most of their theoretical figures dont translate to the real world.

In game benchmarks (where it matters) its less than 10% difference usually:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1034?vs=1043


renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
meat_loaf said:
renz496 said:
syrupd said:
So I have the option of switching my card as a "upgrade" so to speak, but I am trying to figure out if it is worth it. The only reason I would do it is to go to a newer card.

Right now, I am running an XFX 7970 Black Edition 3GB Card.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (if you really need the specs)

My Option would be to SAPPHIRE R9 270X 4GB
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

I know what I am getting myself into, it's one of those times where I honor the opinions of other on here, since you guys have helped me think things through so many times :) 

My Specs btw are:

i7 3770k, Z77 Chipset
650Watt Power Supply
16GB 1866Mhz Corsair
Supercooled (Water/Air Mix - Mesh style case)
HTPC/Gaming Setup - 55" TV, not on monitors, running games at 1080p max. - I play all FPS type games

The performance increase is posted by AMD themselves on their website.

The only reason I got the XFX in the first place (aside from it being a 7970) is because of it's quiet fans. And the kicker is, the person who would get the other card would use it for GFX Design and WoW/StarCraft.



then why considering to get much slower card? 270X is a renamed 7870 Ghz Edition.


270x is not just a rebranded card, but its 45% stronger than 7870 ghz edition. The GPU has more processing power = more FPS = better for relatively similar prices.


where did you get that 45% stronger number? the test showed that the performance difference between the two is only in 10% range

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_270X_Gaming/2...


AMD in their introduction and debut of the card created a very simple graphic to demonstrate. They did not list R9 270X but you could guess how much more processing power is added. R9 270 has 35% more power than HD7850. So comparing the HD7870 vs R9 270X 35-40% GPU power is very close estimate.

http://www.eteknix.com/asus-amd-radeon-r9-270-direct-cu...

Take a look at the AMD introduction when the R9 270 first came out.

Btw, relative performance is not necessarily an accurate chart to go off since the performance % changes a lot depending on CPU used, Ram speed, SSD, and manufacturer of the GPU cards itself. Asus, MSI, etc.... all used different chips to make their cards and each has different tolerances so performance stats fluctuate heavily. Also it depends the application and such they are testing off of. Some applications prefer AMD and some prefer Nvidia. So I never go and actually look at the performance statistics as 90% of any statistics can be altered by changes in variables.

Its better to actually go look at what AMD does in their explanation of GPU processing power rather than performance numbers.

And don't forget depending on when they tested the card vs the test if done today, the drivers significantly boost performance beyond the their stated 10%. AMD is pretty well known for their drivers to increase games performance by a lot around 15-30% (this is as stated on catalyst update notes on which games it improves).


don't talk about estimates. show me the hard data showing that 270X have 40%-45% more FPS than 7870 Ghz edition. how can 270X have significant more performance than 7870 Ghz when the chip were using the very same chip (Pitcairn), same memory interface (256bit) and clocked almost similarly to each other. (1050Mhz vs 1000Mhz). the 10% gap between the two most likely coming from higher bandwidth of 270X since the RAM were clocked a bit higher in 270X than 7870 Ghz.


Memory bandwidth is 17% better as stated by http://www.hwcompare.com/15678/radeon-hd-7870-vs-radeon...

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-Radeon-HD-787...

As GPU boss stated in 3D mark 11 the 270X achieved 40% better scoring than 7870 and in 3d mark vantage its 20% better than 7870. There is your number. Its not 10%, its 40%. 3d mark 11 is a better benchmark use to stress the card to test its performance than the stats used by techpowerup.


when gpuboss make the comparison did they use the same drivers? or did they just take the numbers from any review done when both gpu initially comes out and directly compare the numbers? the test done on guru3d shows that the difference between 270X and 7870 is around 10% between each other in 3D MArk 11:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_270x...


Not sure which drivers did they tested on, but looking at the fact that it was posted on December 2013, I'm guessing its either 13.12 or the on one of the beta drivers AMD had at the time.
a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 4:39:41 AM

I think someone who purchased a 270x and is passed his return policy date so now he is trying to convince himself he got the right card by trying to convince us of bogus benchmarks numbers. Not trying to be an ass but unreliable is unreliable and thats what those sites are. Dont trust them.
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a c 78 U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 8:02:02 AM

Regardless, that still doesnt make the 270x 40% faster than the 7870, because it isnt.
a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2014 11:55:43 AM

I go for whatever is the best card out there overall. Look at my sig and you'll see. If amd had of had good drivers EVER and had a single card that was better than nvidias best single card then I would have gone with amd. Im no fan boy I just like to buy products I dont have to worry about. That being said other than terrible drivers I've never had any real issues with amd other than having to rma a card or two because of some reason or another. Years of using nvidia and not a issue yet, heat or hardware failure.
April 24, 2014 5:21:58 AM

So your an NVidia fanboi FACT) and your accusing him of being an AMDfanboi?

Strange but I think you need to cut it there before I cut you from here for a few days for trolling.

Lets keep it civil.
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2014 5:54:10 AM

No not trolling reynod im just referring to him posting and swearing by incorrect stats and numbers. Fan boy means all I use is nvidia and defend it to the death more or less. I do not as I stated I would happily by amd and almost got a 280x with plans of crossfire till the prices sky rocket which made me re evaluate my decisions. I've used plenty of amd/ati cards of my favorite being the x800pro agp and the x1800xt. But since nvidia has been more stable imo and plenty of others around the web and they cant seem to beat nvidia in anything other than price/performance ratio I ultimately went nvidia because this pc was going to be the biggest build I had ever done and I wanted the best of the best and at the time of purchase it hapoened to be nvidia. Had the 290x performed better I would have chose those.
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2014 6:15:38 AM

Looking at tek syndicate they have a topic with a slide from tomshardware showing a 7% difference between the 270x and the hd7870. Toms is a resource I would put my money on most of the time. 7% sounds much more reasonable than 40%.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2014 3:45:44 AM

No i stated that IF amd performace wise beat nvidia in out right performance i would have chosen then as price was no issue with planning the start of my next rig which is why i chose the 780ti because it was the fastest gpu on the market. Faster than amd's 290x which is and was their best single gpu card. Nvidia beat it so i chose nvidia. And from MANY years of using amd and having truck loads of driver issues just like the 280x has been riddled with (artifacting due to drivers, mantle roll out being pretty awful and delayed). As i stated Had AMD put out a better performer than nvidias highes end card i would have chosen them. My comment was unnecessary and i should have worded it better. I didnt mean it as a direct attack just a fun comment that i didnt think ws going to hurt anyones feelings. In the end im not loyal to one side or the other. I just choose who is the absolute best performer not price/performance ratio as you stated and i said i didnt care about, OUT RIGHT FASTEST company of the two and IMO most reliable over the years and even with new cards. I chose what i feel was the best out right of the two and it just so happened to be nvidia. Thats being a enthusiast not a fan boy. I'm also not trying to convince anyone of my cards performance. That card does that for itself so i dont care what % numbers some website shows it simply is a insanely fast gpu.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2014 12:18:29 PM

Ok, that's enough....

Let's knock off the trollish behavior and start acting like civilized people here or I will nuke this entire thread and send several members off on "vacation".
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