Should I switch to 4770k or 4820k (Microcenter selling for $269 each)?

[vampire5003]

I currently have a AMD FX-8350 at stock temperatures with a Thermaltake Frio. I'm using a Sapphire HD7970 OC (got it for $239 on black friday) and the temperatures are quite hot.

I believe the reason for the heat is the higher TDP, as my last build was quiet and cooler (room would get to 81F max after hours of gameplay on 3570k OC'd and GTX 680).

My current build gets quite warm, with my room at no gameplay easily getting to 83F. If I play games I can expect the room to get to 84F if not 85F. When I tried to play Titanfall last time my room was 87F!

That is too hot. The AC in here is on too, set to 76F and I can feel it pumping out cool air but my current setup is too hot.

I think its a combination of a different PSU (I used corsair hx series psu's in my intel build before) my current psu is a Rosewill Capstone. The fan is always spinning hot air as well.

I just want to know if I should consider switching to 4770k or 4820k as microcenter is offering them at $269 each. If I switch I will have to sell my current mobo (Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3) and my FX-8350.

Here is my build:
X-Star 27" inch Korean 2560X1440p monitor
AMD FX-8350 stock clock with a Thermaltake Frio
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
Sapphire AMD HD 7970 OC edition
128GB Kingston SSD
1TB Western Digital Black HDD
NZXT Source 530
Rosewill Capstone 750W PSU
8GB RAM

 

[EasyLover]

Stick with your current build.

Change the Frio to Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220/320. If don't want to use AIO then go for air cooler Noctua NH-D14/15.

Ensure proper ventilation inside the case. If you think your GPU is running hot, use 140mm fan on the front to directly throw fresh air on the GPU or use side fan for this purpose.

Haswell CPUs run much hotter as well.

In which position your PSU is meaning is it upside down or otherwise. Install it so that the fan goes under it and make sure you've dust filter on PSU side as well.

 

[vampire5003]

Stick with your current build.

Change the Frio to Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220/320. If don't want to use AIO then go for air cooler Noctua NH-D14/15.

Ensure proper ventilation inside the case. If you think your GPU is running hot, use 140mm fan on the front to directly throw fresh air on the GPU or use side fan for this purpose.

Haswell CPUs run much hotter as well.

In which position your PSU is meaning is it upside down or otherwise. Install it so that the fan goes under it and make sure you've dust filter on PSU side as well.

Oh ok so the Frio is the problem?

 

[EasyLover]

Stick with your current build.

Change the Frio to Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220/320. If don't want to use AIO then go for air cooler Noctua NH-D14/15.

Ensure proper ventilation inside the case. If you think your GPU is running hot, use 140mm fan on the front to directly throw fresh air on the GPU or use side fan for this purpose.

Haswell CPUs run much hotter as well.

In which position your PSU is meaning is it upside down or otherwise. Install it so that the fan goes under it and make sure you've dust filter on PSU side as well.

Oh ok so the Frio is the problem?

Temps you are posting are in F not in C. Yes? If that is so just don't do any thing, as these temps are more than within limit. But if these temps are in C then check your cooler and air flow in the case.

 

[Ellensar]

I switched over from an 8350 to a 4770K about a month ago because I had to RMA my 990fx Sabertooth and didn't feel like waiting for it to come back. Besides the improved benchmarks, gaming is almost identical. I would return it, but I already promised the AMD build to my friend.

AMD uses a bit more power and runs hot. Your case needs efficient ventilation in order to keep things cool. EasyLover has got the answer you need.

 

[vampire5003]

Stick with your current build.

Change the Frio to Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220/320. If don't want to use AIO then go for air cooler Noctua NH-D14/15.

Ensure proper ventilation inside the case. If you think your GPU is running hot, use 140mm fan on the front to directly throw fresh air on the GPU or use side fan for this purpose.

Haswell CPUs run much hotter as well.

In which position your PSU is meaning is it upside down or otherwise. Install it so that the fan goes under it and make sure you've dust filter on PSU side as well.

Oh ok so the Frio is the problem?

Temps you are posting are in F not in C. Yes? If that is so just don't do any thing, as these temps are more than within limit. But if these temps are in C then check your cooler and air flow in the case.

Correct the temperatures are in F not C. I was asking if the Frio is basically pushing hot air all around versus the other coolers.

I will see about purchasing the H100i or one of the other air coolers when I head to microcenter this evening

-Thomas

 

[vampire5003]

I switched over from an 8350 to a 4770K about a month ago because I had to RMA my 990fx Sabertooth and didn't feel like waiting for it to come back. Besides the improved benchmarks, gaming is almost identical. I would return it, but I already promised the AMD build to my friend.

AMD uses a bit more power and runs hot. Your case needs efficient ventilation in order to keep things cool. EasyLover has got the answer you need.

Yes the main reason I was considering Intel was temps. Honestly only because of the temps I'm getting now.

I'm going to follow EasyLover's advice and get a different cooling solution when I head to microcenter later this evening.

 

[EasyLover]

Stick with your current build.

Change the Frio to Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220/320. If don't want to use AIO then go for air cooler Noctua NH-D14/15.

Ensure proper ventilation inside the case. If you think your GPU is running hot, use 140mm fan on the front to directly throw fresh air on the GPU or use side fan for this purpose.

Haswell CPUs run much hotter as well.

In which position your PSU is meaning is it upside down or otherwise. Install it so that the fan goes under it and make sure you've dust filter on PSU side as well.

Oh ok so the Frio is the problem?

Temps you are posting are in F not in C. Yes? If that is so just don't do any thing, as these temps are more than within limit. But if these temps are in C then check your cooler and air flow in the case.

Correct the temperatures are in F not C. I was asking if the Frio is basically pushing hot air all around versus the other coolers.

I will see about purchasing the H100i or one of the other air coolers when I head to microcenter this evening

-Thomas

F temps are way within limits dear. You can stick with Frio if it is giving you under normal temps.

 

[Ellensar]

What's the room temperature, vampire?

 

[vampire5003]

Stick with your current build.

Change the Frio to Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220/320. If don't want to use AIO then go for air cooler Noctua NH-D14/15.

Ensure proper ventilation inside the case. If you think your GPU is running hot, use 140mm fan on the front to directly throw fresh air on the GPU or use side fan for this purpose.

Haswell CPUs run much hotter as well.

In which position your PSU is meaning is it upside down or otherwise. Install it so that the fan goes under it and make sure you've dust filter on PSU side as well.

Oh ok so the Frio is the problem?

Temps you are posting are in F not in C. Yes? If that is so just don't do any thing, as these temps are more than within limit. But if these temps are in C then check your cooler and air flow in the case.

Correct the temperatures are in F not C. I was asking if the Frio is basically pushing hot air all around versus the other coolers.

I will see about purchasing the H100i or one of the other air coolers when I head to microcenter this evening

-Thomas

F temps are way within limits dear. You can stick with Frio if it is giving you under normal temps.

Again the limits are not the problem its that the PC is heating my home to the point to where I don't even want to use it. That's why I created the thread. As in the past my other PC's never heated the room like this. I cannot use my PC when its almost 90 degrees Fahrenheit in my room. If the PC stays off all day, and just the TV on, my room is around 77F.

 

[vampire5003]

What's the room temperature, vampire?

With the PC off, 76F. With the PC off but TV on 77F if not 76F. With the PC on and TV off, 83F. It's 82F right now in my room, and I can feel the AC on running.

The issue is if I try to play games, like Minecraft or Titanfall, even SC2 will heat the room to 85F easily.

If I try to game for more than two hours, I can expect 87F.

 

[EasyLover]

Stick with your current build.

Change the Frio to Corsair H100i or Swiftech H220/320. If don't want to use AIO then go for air cooler Noctua NH-D14/15.

Ensure proper ventilation inside the case. If you think your GPU is running hot, use 140mm fan on the front to directly throw fresh air on the GPU or use side fan for this purpose.

Haswell CPUs run much hotter as well.

In which position your PSU is meaning is it upside down or otherwise. Install it so that the fan goes under it and make sure you've dust filter on PSU side as well.

Oh ok so the Frio is the problem?

Temps you are posting are in F not in C. Yes? If that is so just don't do any thing, as these temps are more than within limit. But if these temps are in C then check your cooler and air flow in the case.

Correct the temperatures are in F not C. I was asking if the Frio is basically pushing hot air all around versus the other coolers.

I will see about purchasing the H100i or one of the other air coolers when I head to microcenter this evening

-Thomas

F temps are way within limits dear. You can stick with Frio if it is giving you under normal temps.

Again the limits are not the problem its that the PC is heating my home to the point to where I don't even want to use it. That's why I created the thread. As in the past my other PC's never heated the room like this. I cannot use my PC when its almost 90 degrees Fahrenheit in my room. If the PC stays off all day, and just the TV on, my room is around 77F.

You can place the PC near the window or any area where the heat can exhaust. Otherwise your AC should not have any problem in handling this much heat.

 

[Ellensar]

What kinda temps you getting on your GPU?

 

[vampire5003]

What kinda temps you getting on your GPU?

I believe last time I played SC2 my GPU was at 78C. I imagine during Titanfall it was around that number.

If my GPU is what's heating up the room (I thought AMD CPU's got hot not the GPU's) then I will definitely move to Nvidia.

 

[Ellensar]

Then we've found the culprit, because your CPU is only around 30°C. But it is still a big surprise that it can heat up the room like that. I believe the 7970 is a hot card, usually going up to 85°C. I don't know how return policies go, but try out a GTX 770 from Microcenter. A 780 if you want a marginal upgrade from the 7970. If it doesn't heat up your room, keep it and sell the Radeon. If it does, then the only option is to open a window.
:/

 

[vampire5003]

Then we've found the culprit, because your CPU is only around 30°C. But it is still a big surprise that it can heat up the room like that.

If it would help, I can take pics of the thermostat at different times of the day, like when the PC is off, when its on, and when its gaming etc.

I honestly think its a combination of my fans and case or something.

On my intel build I was using a Thermaltake Level 10 GT, and a Hyper 212 Plus/Evo.

 

[vampire5003]

Then we've found the culprit, because your CPU is only around 30°C. But it is still a big surprise that it can heat up the room like that. I believe the 7970 is a hot card, usually going up to 85°C. I don't know how return policies go, but try out a GTX 770 from Microcenter. A 780 if you want a marginal upgrade from the 7970. If doesn't heat up your room, keep it and sell the Radeon. If it does, then the only option is to open a window. :/

I'll probably do that. Is the Asus or Gigabyte or EVGA the coolest running option? Noise is not really a concern, just keeping it cool.

 

[Ellensar]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127741&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

The MSI Twin Frozr is my all time fav. One of, if not, the coolest cards, both aesthetically and temp wise. Gigabyte Windforce is pretty well built as well.

But with these cards, go for what you think looks nice. Nvidia is fairly efficient compared to the older Radeons.

edit
Just realized the Gigabyte Windforce has a higher baseclock, but the MSI Twin Frozr has more room for overclocking.

 

[EasyLover]

Dear just install 140mm fan on the side of the PC Case and use it to throw fresh air on the GPU. You should only be concerned of the GPU temps if they increase 90C. Wonder you are considering changing GPU where the temps are really not touching alarming figure.

 

[vampire5003]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127741&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

The MSI Twin Frozr is my all time fav. One of, if not, the coolest cards, both aesthetically and temp wise. Gigabyte Windforce is pretty well built as well.

But with these cards, go for what you think looks nice. Nvidia is fairly efficient compared to the older Radeons.

edit
Just realized the Gigabyte Windforce has a higher baseclock, but the MSI Twin Frozr has more room for overclocking.

I'll look for both at microcenter this evening, but I probably will never overclock as that increases temps.

After all nobody wants to sweat while gaming :/

 

[Ellensar]

That didn't even occur to me. I'm getting ahead of myself.

 

[vampire5003]

Dear just install 140mm fan on the side of the PC Case and use it to throw fresh air on the GPU. You should only be concerned of the GPU temps if they increase 90C. Wonder you are considering changing GPU where the temps are really not touching alarming figure.

My case doesn't allow for side fans, unless I taped one on the side. Honestly I'm not worried about damaging components due to temperatures, I'm can't use the PC due to the heat it causes.

My room heats up exponentially if I have the PC on it's ridiculous. This never happened with my old build.

That being said the Level 10 GT also had large fans that moved slow, thus not blowing hot air to the room at 2000rpms.

 

[EasyLover]

Dear just install 140mm fan on the side of the PC Case and use it to throw fresh air on the GPU. You should only be concerned of the GPU temps if they increase 90C. Wonder you are considering changing GPU where the temps are really not touching alarming figure.

My case doesn't allow for side fans, unless I taped one on the side. Honestly I'm not worried about damaging components due to temperatures, I'm can't use the PC due to the heat it causes.

My room heats up exponentially if I have the PC on it's ridiculous. This never happened with my old build.

That being said the Level 10 GT also had large fans that moved slow, thus not blowing hot air to the room at 2000rpms.

Ok. What about your AC? Is it not being able to keep the room temps under tab even with the PC's heat?

 

[vampire5003]

Dear just install 140mm fan on the side of the PC Case and use it to throw fresh air on the GPU. You should only be concerned of the GPU temps if they increase 90C. Wonder you are considering changing GPU where the temps are really not touching alarming figure.

My case doesn't allow for side fans, unless I taped one on the side. Honestly I'm not worried about damaging components due to temperatures, I'm can't use the PC due to the heat it causes.

My room heats up exponentially if I have the PC on it's ridiculous. This never happened with my old build.

That being said the Level 10 GT also had large fans that moved slow, thus not blowing hot air to the room at 2000rpms.

Ok. What about your AC? Is it not being able to keep the room temps under tab even with the PC's heat?

Correct my AC struggles with the PC on.

 

[Ellensar]

It seems ridiculous and I feel silly typing it, but consider this option.
How about getting a portable room AC; it's summer and it's only gonna get hotter. They're like 200 bucks, but it's better than spending $500 on a GPU that isn't that much better than an OC 7970.

Get the AC and wait for the next AMD/Nvidia architecture that will rock the socks off your 1440p monitor.

And make sure the card you get is a 3GB version. You need it at that resolution.