Technology , are people getting smarter ?
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mickypheonix
May 23, 2014 4:22:59 AM
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mickypheonix
May 23, 2014 8:57:50 AM
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musical marv
May 23, 2014 5:07:03 PM
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mickypheonix
May 23, 2014 5:39:28 PM
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4Ryan6
May 24, 2014 11:00:34 AM
musical marv
May 24, 2014 5:45:11 PM
tonytony_chopper
June 13, 2014 12:45:00 AM
musical marv
June 15, 2014 6:21:53 PM
It seems to be a lack of self reliance, and not knowing how to figure stuff out.
Driving along, you get a flat.
1. "Aw crap, its raining and I have to change the tire"
2. "How do I change the tire?"
3. I'll ask a question in a forum: "Guys...my car is driving funny. I think I have a flat tire. Do I have a spare? And can you link me to a youtube on how to fix it?"
#3 seems to be very prevalent.
Driving along, you get a flat.
1. "Aw crap, its raining and I have to change the tire"
2. "How do I change the tire?"
3. I'll ask a question in a forum: "Guys...my car is driving funny. I think I have a flat tire. Do I have a spare? And can you link me to a youtube on how to fix it?"
#3 seems to be very prevalent.
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mickypheonix
June 15, 2014 11:30:12 PM
j0ee
June 19, 2014 3:09:55 AM
mickypheonix
June 19, 2014 3:44:48 AM
4Ryan6
June 19, 2014 5:19:56 AM
Technology is a wonderful thing but physically deadly as well, look at child health in general compared to before technology was rampant.
When I was a child we played games, but not in the house exercising or thumbs on a game pad, we played, we ran, we walked, we jumped, we played games like kick the can, hop scotch, hide and seek, red rover, etc., etc., etc., meaning we were exercising physically from the time we got out the door.
We were exhausted at night from all the play and never had problems sleeping!
We were not mentally influenced by the games we played, we did not take knives and guns to school!
Today technology is being seriously abused and creating MENTAL couch potatoes, and all new health problems arising from lack of exercise.
The desire for technology also creates the handout syndrome, where even though all the information is out there on the net, our basic society is too lazy to seek it out, and study how to do what they want to accomplish, (like overclocking for example), they want someone to do it for them because they're too lazy to study and learn how themselves.
Why is cursive hand writing having to be re-initiated in school?
Who took it out, that was a part of our education, the same as learning how to count out change!
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/long-held-tradition-cursive-handwriting-slowly-dying-america/
When I was a child we played games, but not in the house exercising or thumbs on a game pad, we played, we ran, we walked, we jumped, we played games like kick the can, hop scotch, hide and seek, red rover, etc., etc., etc., meaning we were exercising physically from the time we got out the door.
We were exhausted at night from all the play and never had problems sleeping!
We were not mentally influenced by the games we played, we did not take knives and guns to school!
Today technology is being seriously abused and creating MENTAL couch potatoes, and all new health problems arising from lack of exercise.
The desire for technology also creates the handout syndrome, where even though all the information is out there on the net, our basic society is too lazy to seek it out, and study how to do what they want to accomplish, (like overclocking for example), they want someone to do it for them because they're too lazy to study and learn how themselves.
Why is cursive hand writing having to be re-initiated in school?
Who took it out, that was a part of our education, the same as learning how to count out change!
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/long-held-tradition-cursive-handwriting-slowly-dying-america/
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mickypheonix
June 19, 2014 5:33:16 AM
I'd say it depends more on self discipline than anything else. I was given a "new age" schooling at the turn of the milienium. We had cutting edge Pentium 3s, computer and ICT training labs etc. I got trained in both traditional cursive and word processing (Office '97 with clippy and co.).
My generation was the first in Australia to given out laptops for mandatory use in high school. You'd expect me to be entirely digital, unable to write anything but I'm fine.
You'd think that a Gen Y teenager would only have thumbs for texting. Contrary to what you might believe my semi-cursive handwriting is still being used for lectures and essays. Here is what it looks like under real world circumstances:
Onenote/Wacom Stylus
cursive by amdfangirl, on Flickr
Clipboard on fieldwork
IMG_20140619_231426 by amdfangirl, on Flickr
I choose to handwrite everything because any university student will tell you that exams are still done with pen and paper. You want to pass that test? You'd better crank up the wpm.
It's not just that, the latest neurological research is pushing me toward demodernising the way I write my essays too. I just handed in my first handwritten essay in 10 years. Why? Because the hard way is actually the easy way.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704...
My contemporaries can type just as fast as the lecturer can talk and they end up producing a transcript of the entire lecture. That's stupid. I handwrite because I can't possibly note all that information. I have to summarise and process the information before writing it down. That's why when someone asks me what any lesson I've had in the past decade was about I can tell them because processing had to happen in the brain. I had to process the information and only picking out the delta.
Go into any university and you'll see three types of people: Traditionalists who use pen and paper because digital doesn't work well for them, digital diehards who can barely hold a pen but boast insane typing speeds and me the hybridist who uses the best aspects of both traditional and digital. Basically why I insisted on getting a laptop with a pen. Whatever I write can be converted into text if I want it to be. It's not like I can't handwrite - I can because I write on my computer screen. It's not like I can't type - I can or I can convert handwriting. Everything I write is digitally backed up on the HDD, backup drive and cloud.
That's the model that education systems should follow. Getting literally the best of both worlds rather than forcing something onto people who don't see the benefits of it. Who is going to type chemical forumale with superscripts and subscripts? How are you going to pass a written exam?
My generation was the first in Australia to given out laptops for mandatory use in high school. You'd expect me to be entirely digital, unable to write anything but I'm fine.
You'd think that a Gen Y teenager would only have thumbs for texting. Contrary to what you might believe my semi-cursive handwriting is still being used for lectures and essays. Here is what it looks like under real world circumstances:
Onenote/Wacom Stylus
cursive by amdfangirl, on FlickrClipboard on fieldwork
IMG_20140619_231426 by amdfangirl, on FlickrI choose to handwrite everything because any university student will tell you that exams are still done with pen and paper. You want to pass that test? You'd better crank up the wpm.
It's not just that, the latest neurological research is pushing me toward demodernising the way I write my essays too. I just handed in my first handwritten essay in 10 years. Why? Because the hard way is actually the easy way.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704...
My contemporaries can type just as fast as the lecturer can talk and they end up producing a transcript of the entire lecture. That's stupid. I handwrite because I can't possibly note all that information. I have to summarise and process the information before writing it down. That's why when someone asks me what any lesson I've had in the past decade was about I can tell them because processing had to happen in the brain. I had to process the information and only picking out the delta.
Go into any university and you'll see three types of people: Traditionalists who use pen and paper because digital doesn't work well for them, digital diehards who can barely hold a pen but boast insane typing speeds and me the hybridist who uses the best aspects of both traditional and digital. Basically why I insisted on getting a laptop with a pen. Whatever I write can be converted into text if I want it to be. It's not like I can't handwrite - I can because I write on my computer screen. It's not like I can't type - I can or I can convert handwriting. Everything I write is digitally backed up on the HDD, backup drive and cloud.
That's the model that education systems should follow. Getting literally the best of both worlds rather than forcing something onto people who don't see the benefits of it. Who is going to type chemical forumale with superscripts and subscripts? How are you going to pass a written exam?
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I know most of my friends will tell me that handwriting doesn't matter - it does it helps you think about things in an unregimented way.
There's nothing stopping you from having text all over the place joining ideas and concepts together as long as it makes sense to you.
Writing an essay on a piece of paper is even better. I've proven to myself that I constently get better marks from essays that were orginally handwritten drafts.
I believe in this instant information access world that handwriting will be more important than ever. Analysis is always done best with non-conforming squiggles, comments written to the side and stuff like that.
There's nothing stopping you from having text all over the place joining ideas and concepts together as long as it makes sense to you.
Writing an essay on a piece of paper is even better. I've proven to myself that I constently get better marks from essays that were orginally handwritten drafts.
I believe in this instant information access world that handwriting will be more important than ever. Analysis is always done best with non-conforming squiggles, comments written to the side and stuff like that.
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musical marv
June 19, 2014 5:28:00 PM
amdfangirl said:
I know most of my friends will tell me that handwriting doesn't matter - it does it helps you think about things in an unregimented way. There's nothing stopping you from having text all over the place joining ideas and concepts together as long as it makes sense to you.
Writing an essay on a piece of paper is even better. I've proven to myself that I constently get better marks from essays that were orginally handwritten drafts.
I believe in this instant information access world that handwriting will be more important than ever. Analysis is always done best with non-conforming squiggles, comments written to the side and stuff like that.
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BoostSoftware
August 21, 2014 12:01:58 PM
musical marv said:
mickypheonix said:
It certainly seems people are not getting any smarter as technology progressesI would agree...and also state that the fact that people thought USB was a country in Europe probably says a lot more about them lacking basic geographical knowledge than about them lacking tech knowledge. I'm frankly more concerned about the former rather than the latter!
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musical marv
August 21, 2014 5:41:43 PM
wanamingo
August 22, 2014 12:08:12 PM
http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/External_cognition
External Cognition or computational offloading is what they call it.
I think Ive mumbled about this before and I wish I could find the article talking about the tests performed... Basically they've done studies on what technology does to intelligence and they have found that it doesnt make people less smart just makes their problem solving skills... different.
Basically people that have grown up with technology are better able to navigate loads of information to find their solutions. So where people used to be rewarded with having that information stored locally (In your brain bags) now the reward comes from being able to parse and search information effectively and quickly.
External Cognition or computational offloading is what they call it.
I think Ive mumbled about this before and I wish I could find the article talking about the tests performed... Basically they've done studies on what technology does to intelligence and they have found that it doesnt make people less smart just makes their problem solving skills... different.
Basically people that have grown up with technology are better able to navigate loads of information to find their solutions. So where people used to be rewarded with having that information stored locally (In your brain bags) now the reward comes from being able to parse and search information effectively and quickly.
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musical marv
August 22, 2014 5:31:06 PM
4Ryan6 said:
The desire to learn new technology makes you smarter, but using it makes us all lazy and spoiled.It's sad that cashiers today cannot count out change on their own without the machine telling them how much change to give out!
What do they teach in school today?
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