Xbox One Gets 10% Power Boost by Ditching the Kinect
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Anonymous
June 6, 2014 6:06:55 PM
With the extra computing overhead required to make the Kinect work on the Xbox One, the higher price point and the weaker performance on Microsoft's console, it was only a matter of time before the Xbox One ditched the Kinect.
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fandroid
June 6, 2014 8:13:19 PM
rayden54
June 6, 2014 8:24:14 PM
darkguy2
June 6, 2014 8:29:04 PM
neon neophyte
June 6, 2014 8:57:43 PM
Martell1977
June 6, 2014 9:21:13 PM
So they took the same attitude with Kinect that they did with Windows 8's Metro interface and both burned them in the end. Sales of Windows 8 were/are slow and the sales spike of the Xbone was short due to hardcore XBox fans. Once the hardcore people had theirs, the sales trailed off.
At what point will MS start listening to customer feedback BEFORE finalizing the designs and going to retail? How bad does it have to get?
At what point will MS start listening to customer feedback BEFORE finalizing the designs and going to retail? How bad does it have to get?
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Darkk
June 6, 2014 10:07:49 PM
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So they took the same attitude with Kinect that they did with Windows 8's Metro interface and both burned them in the end. Sales of Windows 8 were/are slow and the sales spike of the Xbone was short due to hardcore XBox fans. Once the hardcore people had theirs, the sales trailed off. At what point will MS start listening to customer feedback BEFORE finalizing the designs and going to retail? How bad does it have to get?
Remember money talks so whatever hurts their wallets will make them listen.
Right now it's marketing that is shoving this down everybody's throats and customers are starting to rebel by disconnecting the kinect device.
I have one for my Xbox 360 and while it's a great item but it wears off over time.
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Anonymous
June 6, 2014 10:24:20 PM
Anonymous
June 6, 2014 10:31:29 PM
back_by_demand
June 6, 2014 11:21:57 PM
Adding a peripheral causes extra work for the system? Big shock, same thing applies for anything else you plug in. You may get a boost by removing it but technologically it is a step backwards. The voice and motion control is great for fat lazy sofa-tards, surely the Americans should be lapping if up?
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CaptainTom
June 6, 2014 11:30:24 PM
de5_Roy
June 7, 2014 12:41:55 AM
rantoc
June 7, 2014 3:06:03 AM
jasonelmore
June 7, 2014 4:55:17 AM
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Out of curiosity, what'll happen to all the people with the old Xbox One when/if games are optimized to actually USE that extra 10%? Will they just have to disable Kinect to play them?No it's smart software. When a game loads, the Xbox One OS will ask, "Are you using Kinect video and mapping features?"
If the game says yes, then the extra 10% is not given.
If the game says no, then the video mapping features of kinect are disabled and the game is given 10% more gpu resources. Audio features still work.
When the user snaps back to dashboard, the system takes back those 10% resources while the game is suspended.
It's a smart and flexible system, and this is how it should have been done to begin with.
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kawininjazx
June 7, 2014 7:11:49 AM
zhunt99
June 7, 2014 7:14:21 AM
invlem
June 7, 2014 8:16:45 AM
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So their motion capture device was a constant 10% drain on the GPU resources even when not being used? I don't think so. I bet that MS rep gave himself a pat on the back for coming up with that "positive spin".I'm pretty sure they had the resources reserved on the OS level regardless if the kinect was being used by the game or not.
The original plan was to have every xbox have a kinect, so it does, in fact make sense that that 10% reserve would be enabled 100% of the time regardless if the game made use of the kinect or not.
Seems like now they're just enabling the developer to gain access to those reserved resources.
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10tacle
June 7, 2014 8:28:57 AM
It's been a year since E3 last year when Microsoft had probably one of the biggest fails ever in a new product introduction, by backing off several things they were going to be requiring (the console to be online even if you are playing single player and don't want to be online, you must log in every 24 hours, restrictions on used games and game swapping with friends, etc.). Now they are taking away kinect to boost performance.
Microfail, I would strongly suggest for your next generation of console you actually LISTEN to your users.
Microfail, I would strongly suggest for your next generation of console you actually LISTEN to your users.
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Zeh
June 7, 2014 8:42:24 AM
eklipz330
June 7, 2014 10:25:58 AM
rantoc
June 7, 2014 2:15:28 PM
I hope the new MS ceo really listens and correct the prev clowns mistakes - After all the customers are the ones purchasing the products and if you forget about them... they sure will forget about your company!
The fall of big company's happens when they listen to little or sometimes to much... at the wrong people!
The fall of big company's happens when they listen to little or sometimes to much... at the wrong people!
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tomfreak
June 7, 2014 8:18:25 PM
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SuperVeloce
June 8, 2014 12:48:22 AM
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Yay so now it almost fully utilizing its 7770 while the PS4 is sporting a 7870! The gap is almost closed! /sNot quite right. While shader count is similar (xbox: between 7770 and 7790 or 260x; PS4: between 7850 and 7870 or r9 270), lower core clocks and slower memory systems gives them both disadvantages... in the end it doesn't matter much at all, sony should be much more powerfull to really make a visual difference. There are other more important things for this gen of consoles to be fully utilised for years to come.
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Hevatroid
June 8, 2014 12:07:11 PM
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Yay so now it almost fully utilizing its 7770 while the PS4 is sporting a 7870! The gap is almost closed! /sQuote:
Yay so now it almost fully utilizing its 7770 while the PS4 is sporting a 7870! The gap is almost closed! /sQuote:
Yay so now it almost fully utilizing its 7770 while the PS4 is sporting a 7870! The gap is almost closed! /sQuote:
Yay so now it almost fully utilizing its 7770 while the PS4 is sporting a 7870! The gap is almost closed! /sThe PS4 actually has a GPU closer to the R7 265/7850. However, I do agree with you saying that the Xbox One's GPU is closer to a 77770/250X.
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soldier44
June 8, 2014 2:18:27 PM
rantoc
June 9, 2014 6:17:36 AM
Neve12ende12
June 9, 2014 8:12:15 AM
neon neophyte
June 9, 2014 8:14:10 AM
i still say huge burn on anyone that bought an xbox already. you were forced to buy a kinnect under the promise that xbox would be forcing everyone to have one and therefor support for it would be amazing... because everyone had one. now they are going to sell xbox without one and are removing it's reserved processing.
let the down voting commence. you all still got burnt. not to mention, ps4 is better hardware, playing at higher resolutions without screen tearing or stuttering, like the xbox one. for less money too.
let the down voting commence. you all still got burnt. not to mention, ps4 is better hardware, playing at higher resolutions without screen tearing or stuttering, like the xbox one. for less money too.
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yarmock
June 9, 2014 9:31:59 AM
iogbrideau
June 9, 2014 9:45:20 AM
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i still say huge burn on anyone that bought an xbox already. you were forced to buy a kinnect under the promise that xbox would be forcing everyone to have one and therefor support for it would be amazing... because everyone had one. now they are going to sell xbox without one and are removing it's reserved processing.let the down voting commence. you all still got burnt. not to mention, ps4 is better hardware, playing at higher resolutions without screen tearing or stuttering, like the xbox one. for less money too.
I have yet to see screen tearing or stuttering on my Xbox One. You probably didn't go into settings to set the optimal settings for your TV. Also if Microsoft goes this way with Xbox one I don't mind, just means more people will be playing with me (although most of them have the one too), and I love the kinect and loved it since having the Kinect on the 360 (which I took a very long time to buy after it came out). When you count all the expenses of buying the new console (xbox live, games, and everything), here in Canada both consoles pretty much cost the same, after said expenses.
What I saw in a video yesterday, they were saying something similar about game developpers not listening to their players, but it still applies here. The people that test these things are "yes men" as they want to keep their job, that's how we end up in these messes, they care too much about their job and just say yes it's a good idea to everything. What should really be happening is these testers say "no it's not such a great idea". Anyway that's what the person in the video was saying. Not sure I completely agree with this, but if it's right, just means the companies should do actual betas and let ordinary people test their stuff before launching it.
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ikaz
June 9, 2014 1:03:08 PM
Kinda funny people were upset at the choices MS made with the Xbox one (rightly so) so MS get a new CEO then changes to what people wanted/thought the way it should have been at the start but now people are upset becaues they got what they wanted ??? I mean this this good news people complained with their wallets and MS listen isn't this how business are support work ? Granted they thought that people would like the changes at the start which they were very wrong so they change it since that is what the customer demands in a little over 6 months time which is pretty fast in the business world for a company as large as ms.
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fyend
June 9, 2014 3:09:22 PM
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Still slower than a PS4 and more expensive even with the price cut (PS4s are $379 all over the place) and now lacks its supposed selling feature.Where? I see them for $399 on all major retailer sites and stores..
eBay doesn't count.
Sure it does if its a big store selling them like Tigerdirect is doing today for $359.99
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fyend
June 9, 2014 3:13:22 PM
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neon neophyte
June 10, 2014 1:50:06 AM
no screen tearing eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDsfcqWPU34
watch the XO with screen tearing, and ps4 without.
http://gyazo.com/ebaec00f56ebc0b0366e6026d8b0fcac
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Watch-Dogs-Xbox-One-Ha...
watchdogs, lower res, more frame drops, screen tearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwDYLByVkMk
titanfall screen tearing bitch fest. internet is FULL of them.
etc etc etc
i get it, you bought an xbox one and dont like the cold reality of the matter so it is easier to just pretend it's just as good as everything else. it isnt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDsfcqWPU34
watch the XO with screen tearing, and ps4 without.
http://gyazo.com/ebaec00f56ebc0b0366e6026d8b0fcac
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Watch-Dogs-Xbox-One-Ha...
watchdogs, lower res, more frame drops, screen tearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwDYLByVkMk
titanfall screen tearing bitch fest. internet is FULL of them.
etc etc etc
i get it, you bought an xbox one and dont like the cold reality of the matter so it is easier to just pretend it's just as good as everything else. it isnt.
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