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Bo Bergdahl Innocent or Guilty

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June 12, 2014 5:15:55 PM

When Bo Bergdahl eventually recovers do you think he should face a court martial or not?

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June 12, 2014 6:29:41 PM

I believe his former squadmates, they have nothing to gain by lying. He is a deserter. He should be charged, tried, convicted, & placed UNDER the stockade.
June 13, 2014 5:11:00 AM

ex_bubblehead said:
I believe his former squadmates, they have nothing to gain by lying. He is a deserter. He should be charged, tried, convicted, & placed UNDER the stockade.


I Agree!

June 13, 2014 6:41:58 AM

ex_bubblehead said:
I believe his former squadmates, they have nothing to gain by lying. He is a deserter. He should be charged, tried, convicted, & placed UNDER the stockade.

Agreed!
June 13, 2014 11:36:10 AM

ex_bubblehead said:
I believe his former squadmates, they have nothing to gain by lying. He is a deserter. He should be charged, tried, convicted, & placed UNDER the stockade.

Agreed, with the caveat: We have all the correct facts. What if he was to "walk off" for the CIA and things didn't go as planned?

June 13, 2014 5:42:58 PM

4Ryan6 said:
ex_bubblehead said:
I believe his former squadmates, they have nothing to gain by lying. He is a deserter. He should be charged, tried, convicted, & placed UNDER the stockade.


I Agree!

I agree with all of you. We gave up 5 really important leaders for a lousy deserter!
June 16, 2014 3:45:14 PM

Investigate first then judge him
June 16, 2014 3:58:51 PM

He should probably face Court Martial. If then found guilty, throw away the key.
June 16, 2014 5:26:30 PM

USAFRet said:
He should probably face Court Martial. If then found guilty, throw away the key.
Sir i agree with you. He is a dam deserter and should face his punishment.

June 16, 2014 6:28:53 PM

ALL US soldiers deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are guilty of war crimes. ALL OF THEM!

The US government is the biggest terror group on the planet.
June 16, 2014 6:30:03 PM

musical marv said:
USAFRet said:
He should probably face Court Martial. If then found guilty, throw away the key.
Sir i agree with you. He is a dam deserter and should face his punishment.



ALL US soldiers who participated in the Afghan and Iraq wars are guilty of war crimes. They should be put on trial and sentenced to death. Just like Bush and Obama.
June 16, 2014 6:44:43 PM

SamsChoice said:
ALL US soldiers deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are guilty of war crimes. ALL OF THEM! .


Does your war crimes list include:
Britain, France, Canada, Denmark, Holland, Bulgaria, Belgium, Sweden, Hungary, South Korea, Portugal, Finland, Germany, Spain, Romania, etc, etc, etc, etc.
June 16, 2014 6:46:50 PM

USAFRet said:
SamsChoice said:
ALL US soldiers deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are guilty of war crimes. ALL OF THEM! .


Does your war crimes list include:
Britain, France, Canada, Denmark, Holland, Bulgaria, Belgium, Sweden, Hungary, South Korea, Portugal, Finland, Germany, Spain, Romania, etc, etc, etc, etc.


The US government is the main actor in these war crimes and coerced the other countries in sending a few troops. I know it must hurt you to hear your country is a country ruled by war mongers and criminals. Truth hurts.
June 16, 2014 6:55:15 PM

SamsChoice said:
USAFRet said:
SamsChoice said:
ALL US soldiers deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are guilty of war crimes. ALL OF THEM! .


Does your war crimes list include:
Britain, France, Canada, Denmark, Holland, Bulgaria, Belgium, Sweden, Hungary, South Korea, Portugal, Finland, Germany, Spain, Romania, etc, etc, etc, etc.


The US government is the main actor in these war crimes and coerced the other countries in sending a few troops. I know it must hurt you to hear your country is a country ruled by war mongers and criminals. Truth hurts.


Whatever. If they thought it was irresponsible or illegal, they simply could have not gotten on the plane.
What country do you hail from?
June 16, 2014 7:01:04 PM

USAFRet said:
SamsChoice said:
USAFRet said:
SamsChoice said:
ALL US soldiers deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are guilty of war crimes. ALL OF THEM! .


Does your war crimes list include:
Britain, France, Canada, Denmark, Holland, Bulgaria, Belgium, Sweden, Hungary, South Korea, Portugal, Finland, Germany, Spain, Romania, etc, etc, etc, etc.


The US government is the main actor in these war crimes and coerced the other countries in sending a few troops. I know it must hurt you to hear your country is a country ruled by war mongers and criminals. Truth hurts.


Whatever. If they thought it was irresponsible or illegal, they simply could have not gotten on the plane.
What country do you hail from?


Your answer is whatever? lol How can we have a discussion if you cannot even admit the obvious? Have a nice evening. bye
June 16, 2014 7:04:26 PM

SamsChoice said:
USAFRet said:
SamsChoice said:
USAFRet said:
SamsChoice said:
ALL US soldiers deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are guilty of war crimes. ALL OF THEM! .


Does your war crimes list include:
Britain, France, Canada, Denmark, Holland, Bulgaria, Belgium, Sweden, Hungary, South Korea, Portugal, Finland, Germany, Spain, Romania, etc, etc, etc, etc.


The US government is the main actor in these war crimes and coerced the other countries in sending a few troops. I know it must hurt you to hear your country is a country ruled by war mongers and criminals. Truth hurts.


Whatever. If they thought it was irresponsible or illegal, they simply could have not gotten on the plane.
What country do you hail from?


Your answer is whatever? lol How can we have a discussion if you cannot even admit the obvious? Have a nice evening. bye


I'm trying to have a conversation.
You rail against the US for 'war crimes'. Yet you refuse to identify where on the planet you come from.

It is easy to yell at the current big dog, no matter what century. But very, very few countries can claim innocence.

Again, from where do you hail? Let us see what skeletons you have hiding...
June 16, 2014 7:08:03 PM

LOL

Where I am from has NOTHING to do with my assertions and the truth. Do you even know how to debate and have a discussion? Once again, where I am from has nothing to do with US war crimes. Millions have died because of US foreign policy and this is true whether I live on the moon, Mars or anywhere on earth. Have a nice evening.
June 16, 2014 7:14:37 PM

Avoidance and misdirection. Got it.

You rail against the US in toto as war criminals, and seemingly absolve every other country/political division that participated and sent troops to the current foolishness in the Middle East.

In your eyes, only the US is to blame. They can do no right, and everyone else is simply a patsy, and was coerced into sending troops.

Yet you still refuse to answer a simple question.
June 16, 2014 7:17:40 PM

Avoidance and misdirection? HAHAHAHAHA

You are the one avoiding and deflecting by pointing to other countries and asking me where I am from! LOL So funny.

US is the one that started both wars and had over 90% of the troops deployed. Please come back when you have something substantial to say. BTW, pointing to other bad behavior does not absolve your own! Especially when the US is the main culprit. I will not answer your question because it is meaningless and only a deflection and misdirection.

As for absolving the other countries, The US is the number one culprit but there are others. All part of the anglo-american empire. Now goodbye and have a nice evening.


June 16, 2014 7:35:37 PM

Poland:
Nangar Khel incident

Netherlands:
Dutch soldiers stationed in the Afghan province of Uruzgan allegedly violated the laws of war when they carried out a raid on a hospital in the provincial capital Tarin Kowt in 2009.

Britain:
Today The Guardian reports that military commanders have quietly disciplined British troops accused of killing or wounding Afghan civilians.

I could go on, but you get the point. Maybe

In every armed conflict on this planet, people from every side have engaged in 'war crimes'. Every time. Every side.
Every single time.

Am I condoning that? Hell no !
Yet you seem to want to blame the US and only the US.
June 16, 2014 7:38:39 PM

USAFRet said:
Poland:
Nangar Khel incident

Netherlands:
Dutch soldiers stationed in the Afghan province of Uruzgan allegedly violated the laws of war when they carried out a raid on a hospital in the provincial capital Tarin Kowt in 2009.

Britain:
Today The Guardian reports that military commanders have quietly disciplined British troops accused of killing or wounding Afghan civilians.

I could go on, but you get the point. Maybe

In every armed conflict on this planet, people from every side have engaged in 'war crimes'. Every time. Every side.
Every single time.

Am I condoning that? Hell no !
Yet you seem to want to blame the US and only the US.


Sorry buddy but invading those countries was US foreign policy. Just invading is the first war crime. US has literally a 1000 times more war crimes than any other country and once again you deflect to other countries. Useless to debate with you. I am done. Have a nice evening.
June 16, 2014 7:44:24 PM

All I'm asking is the simple answer to a simple question:

From where do you hail?
June 16, 2014 7:50:10 PM

USAFRet said:
All I'm asking is the simple answer to a simple question:

From where do you hail?


You are one dishonest debater. Deflections and misdirections and pointing to other countries. ALL useless tactics used by those that have nothing to say.

What don;t you understand? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE I AM FROM! THE US HAS BEEN COMMITTING WAR CRIMES FOR 60 YEARS STRAIGHT ACROSS THE WORLD. NO OTHER COUNTRY COMES CLOSE!

goodnight and come back anytime you want to talk and debate. at least once you learn how to.
June 16, 2014 7:56:01 PM

@SamsChoice, I'd say that you are the more dishonest debater here. You've made several serious assertions without a single shred of evidence to back them up. Feel free to return any time with proof of your assertions.

BTW, several of the people in this thread are either retired military or served at least one tour of duty. What have you done for the good of your country?
June 16, 2014 7:58:10 PM

If we were sitting at a bar enjoying a beer, and engaged in a political discussion such as this, one of the first questions on either end may have been "where are you from?"
The answer, in either direction, may help to shape opinions.

Since you presumably already have an inkling where I am from by my username, you have already shaped an opinion of my thoughts.
Since I have no idea where on the planet you are from, you have me at a disadvantage.

Whatever, dude.
June 16, 2014 7:59:51 PM

USAFRet said:
If we were sitting at a bar enjoying a beer, and engaged in a political discussion such as this, one of the first questions on either end may have been "where are you from?"
The answer, in either direction, may help to shape opinions.

Since you presumably already have an inkling where I am from by my username, you have already shaped an opinion of my thoughts.
Since I have no idea where on the planet you are from, you have me at a disadvantage.

Whatever, dude.


In what world do you live in where facts depend on where someone lives? seriously???? wow! I couldn't care less where you live or what your thoughts are. You clearly do not know what facts are OR how to debate. You are simply amazing but not in a positive way.
June 16, 2014 8:01:20 PM

ex_bubblehead said:
@SamsChoice, I'd say that you are the more dishonest debater here. You've made several serious assertions without a single shred of evidence to back them up. Feel free to return any time with proof of your assertions.

BTW, several of the people in this thread are either retired military or served at least one tour of duty. What have you done for the good of your country?


Attacking an other country when the country has not attacked you is a war crime. Every causality that ensues is the responsibility of the invading party. Not my problem if you do not know international law.
June 16, 2014 8:03:00 PM

ex_bubblehead said:
@SamsChoice, I'd say that you are the more dishonest debater here. You've made several serious assertions without a single shred of evidence to back them up. Feel free to return any time with proof of your assertions.

BTW, several of the people in this thread are either retired military or served at least one tour of duty. What have you done for the good of your country?


The last time soldiers were heroes is WW2. Since then, US soldiers have been thugs acting for US corporations and the anglo-american empire. I would never join the mafia and neither would I join the armed forces. Bunch of criminal thugs.
June 16, 2014 8:53:11 PM

@sams

it seems that your intent here is not to discuss but to try and troll for attention.

while perhaps true that the usa may be guilty of war crimes, this can be said for just about every single country. almost every single country has its own skeletons to worry about and its best to improve ones own country before pointing out the flaws in others.

this has gone on long enough. i am closing this thread

@marv

i agree... if he is a deserter he needs to be tried accordingly.

sorry i needed to close your thread, but this was getting out of hand.
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