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Get Ready For an SSD Price War

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June 20, 2014 12:37:37 PM

Lower prices,you say? Count me in. I'm always looking for good deals on SSD's,weather i need them or not.
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June 20, 2014 1:03:49 PM

Come on, someone - hit $199 for a 512GB SSD!
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June 20, 2014 1:16:12 PM

All i read was "Blah Blah Blah Lower prices :-) Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah"
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June 20, 2014 1:57:04 PM

I am ready for a price war, Maybe if the prices drop enough I will upgrade my 128gb to a nice 500gb or something.
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June 20, 2014 2:08:30 PM

I have 2x 120GB intel 520 series in RAID 0 for my boot drive and programs, then a 3TB drive for the user profiles and games. A price war for most users are useless because those that want a SSD already have an SSD. This will only benifit newcomers or those that brought into those 64GB SSD years ago and looking to upgrade.
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June 20, 2014 2:09:32 PM

carowden said:
jessterman21 said:
Come on, someone - hit $199 for a 512GB SSD!


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i mean its 205 (with EMCPDHP92), whats 5 bucks? haha why not like $125-$150? id love to see them drop that much


Considering the failure rate I had with those at a shop I worked at, I wouldn't use it if it was free. Rather get a Intel or Samsung for quality over quantity.

I hope this does push SSDs to lower than $.50/GB. Right now HDDs are at around $0.07/GB or less. If we could get to at least $0.15/GB it would be so nice. I wouldn't mind paying $150 for a 1TB SSD.
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June 20, 2014 2:24:08 PM

jimmysmitty said:
carowden said:
jessterman21 said:
Come on, someone - hit $199 for a 512GB SSD!


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i mean its 205 (with EMCPDHP92), whats 5 bucks? haha why not like $125-$150? id love to see them drop that much


Considering the failure rate I had with those at a shop I worked at, I wouldn't use it if it was free. Rather get a Intel or Samsung for quality over quantity.

You've seen high failure rates on that drive already? Didn't the Crucial MX100 only come out about a month ago (it's a replacement for the M500)? Do you mean you've seen many failures on Crucial brand SSDs in general?

I'd certainly agree with you that Intel and Samsung are safe choices for SSDs with regards to reliability. There are some others I'd consider, depending on reviews/price.
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June 20, 2014 2:31:41 PM

Lower the prices and keep them low! Not just for a month or two, either. I want much lower prices for those larger SSDs, too!

They've made a lot of money off of us with those inflated SSD prices for many years now, it's time they do us a favor and lower those prices!

Hell, let's not stop at just SSDs! Let's lower the prices of CPUs, GPUs. PSUs, RAM, Motherboards, Cases, Windows Operating systems and everything else that costs a testicle and big toe to own!

It's no mystery as to why pc component sells are down. EVERYTHING is too damn expensive!
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June 20, 2014 2:52:18 PM

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Lower the prices and keep them low! Not just for a month or two, either. I want much lower prices for those larger SSDs, too!

They've made a lot of money off of us with those inflated SSD prices for many years now, it's time they do us a favor and lower those prices!

Hell, let's not stop at just SSDs! Let's lower the prices of CPUs, GPUs. PSUs, RAM, Motherboards, Cases, Windows Operating systems and everything else that costs a testicle and big toe to own!

It's no mystery as to why pc component sells are down. EVERYTHING is too damn expensive!
Current generation hardware is, but a generation or two earlier is bargain bin cheap even if it's better than some of the current gen stuff value wise.
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June 20, 2014 2:55:35 PM

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...A price war for most users are useless because those that want a SSD already have an SSD. This will only benifit newcomers or those that brought into those 64GB SSD years ago and looking to upgrade.


Uhhh ya only it's not useless because that's most people...
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June 20, 2014 3:02:41 PM

ssd prices themselves are at an affordable level already, just take a look at crucial's mx100 drives. the problem i have is that laptop and especially ultrabook manufacturers still ask for an arm and a leg to upgrade their machines to the bigger drives. surface pro 3 costs about 500$ to go from 256 to 512gb, at apple it's almost the same, an asus zenbook with 512gb costs a fortune, too. going from 256 to 512 gb should cost 150 bucks max, no matter what form factor the drive is.
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June 20, 2014 3:47:13 PM

Would love to move my 840 pro to my laptop and upgrade my desktop to the sandisk extreme pro
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June 20, 2014 4:20:26 PM

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I have 2x 120GB intel 520 series in RAID 0 for my boot drive and programs, then a 3TB drive for the user profiles and games. A price war for most users are useless because those that want a SSD already have an SSD. This will only benifit newcomers or those that brought into those 64GB SSD years ago and looking to upgrade.


You definitely speak for yourself there. I have a 256 GB SSD, but if I could afford 1 TB, I would get one. Heck, if I could afford a PB SSD (if such a thing existed), I would get one of those.
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June 20, 2014 4:49:38 PM

Sorry, I still won't buy one until they improve the maximum write cycles into the hundreds of thousands at the very least.
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June 20, 2014 4:53:55 PM

I can see it now: Customer complains that their new SSD just failed while installing windows to it

CSR: *Gasps* You tried to install an entire OS on the SSD!!?!?!, What year do you think this is?!!! 2013???, You best come to your senses and only use your 256GB SSD for saving 5-10 small text files at the most.

Customer: *cries* I want to go back to 2013 and get a good SSD :( 

Anyway if SSD's get much worst than the 840 evo, then for many users, it will no longer become a feasible solution for high performance storage.
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June 20, 2014 7:23:09 PM

My body is ready
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June 20, 2014 9:42:32 PM

Damn_Rookie said:
jimmysmitty said:
carowden said:
jessterman21 said:
Come on, someone - hit $199 for a 512GB SSD!


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i mean its 205 (with EMCPDHP92), whats 5 bucks? haha why not like $125-$150? id love to see them drop that much


Considering the failure rate I had with those at a shop I worked at, I wouldn't use it if it was free. Rather get a Intel or Samsung for quality over quantity.

You've seen high failure rates on that drive already? Didn't the Crucial MX100 only come out about a month ago (it's a replacement for the M500)? Do you mean you've seen many failures on Crucial brand SSDs in general?

I'd certainly agree with you that Intel and Samsung are safe choices for SSDs with regards to reliability. There are some others I'd consider, depending on reviews/price.


Yes I meant Crucial as a brand. Not as bad as OCZ was (we had about 12 of them have issues from complete failure to randomly dropping from the SATA controller in a batch) but still high enough for me to steer clear.

So far Intel and Samsung have reviewed very well but of course are normally higher price. That is pretty par for the course though when it comes to technology. I bought a Corsair AX860i because of my experience with Corsair products has been superb but it also reviewed so well it made it a great buy and has a nice 7 year warranty with it. Did I pay more? Yes but the last Corsair PSU I bought was a TX850 that lasted 5 years without any issues and is still good to this day.
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June 20, 2014 10:56:25 PM

Thanks for clarifying jimmysmiity, and for passing on your first hand experience; it's always good to hear from people with extensive first hand experience of products.
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June 21, 2014 6:59:59 AM

All of the relevant information in this article is conveniently condensed into the first sentence :) 
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June 21, 2014 12:18:04 PM

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carowden said:
jessterman21 said:
Come on, someone - hit $199 for a 512GB SSD!


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i mean its 205 (with EMCPDHP92), whats 5 bucks? haha why not like $125-$150? id love to see them drop that much


Considering the failure rate I had with those at a shop I worked at, I wouldn't use it if it was free. Rather get a Intel or Samsung for quality over quantity.

I hope this does push SSDs to lower than $.50/GB. Right now HDDs are at around $0.07/GB or less. If we could get to at least $0.15/GB it would be so nice. I wouldn't mind paying $150 for a 1TB SSD.


You must be thinking of the M4 series. M500 and up have been pretty reliable.
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June 22, 2014 3:41:55 AM

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I can see it now: Customer complains that their new SSD just failed while installing windows to it

CSR: *Gasps* You tried to install an entire OS on the SSD!!?!?!, What year do you think this is?!!! 2013???, You best come to your senses and only use your 256GB SSD for saving 5-10 small text files at the most.

Customer: *cries* I want to go back to 2013 and get a good SSD :( 

Anyway if SSD's get much worst than the 840 evo, then for many users, it will no longer become a feasible solution for high performance storage.


+1 for recognizing 840 Evo's a complete garbage. I have two of them, and they do not function well in RAID at all.

Even their software encourages (guilts) you into over-provisioining , and well you end up with a 250GB drive, and 200GB usable space. I've not needed to overprovision any other SSD before.

I'm watching the enterprise drives' price-war , as they is where my money will go.
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June 22, 2014 9:28:17 AM

I have one of the first Crucial 128 6 gb/s drives quite a few years ago and it's still going strong. All companies have certain models that have problems occasionally. I've seen less with Crucial Samsung Corsair Asus and even had very good experience with Powercolor video cards.
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June 22, 2014 6:30:09 PM

nice try, but no, not buying SSD until it is only triple the price/gigabyte of HDD.
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June 22, 2014 8:21:58 PM

Who wins?

The consumers.
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June 22, 2014 8:50:54 PM

Bring it on. I have been waiting for 1 TB SSDs to go below $300 to make my desktop HDD free
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June 22, 2014 9:10:11 PM

Page 1 PC weekly; SSD's drop to 20 pence a gigabyte.
Pge 4 ; British gov. introduces emergency tax on solid state storage of 30 pence a gig.
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June 23, 2014 9:25:26 AM

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Sorry, I still won't buy one until they improve the maximum write cycles into the hundreds of thousands at the very least.

Go buy an SLC SSD then. They're rated at 10k+ write cycles. Of course, if you think write cycles are a problem, then you're likely the type that does uncompressed AVI editing or surveillance recording on SSDs....
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June 23, 2014 9:28:00 AM

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jimmysmitty said:
carowden said:
jessterman21 said:
Come on, someone - hit $199 for a 512GB SSD!


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i mean its 205 (with EMCPDHP92), whats 5 bucks? haha why not like $125-$150? id love to see them drop that much


Considering the failure rate I had with those at a shop I worked at, I wouldn't use it if it was free. Rather get a Intel or Samsung for quality over quantity.

You've seen high failure rates on that drive already? Didn't the Crucial MX100 only come out about a month ago (it's a replacement for the M500)? Do you mean you've seen many failures on Crucial brand SSDs in general?

I'd certainly agree with you that Intel and Samsung are safe choices for SSDs with regards to reliability. There are some others I'd consider, depending on reviews/price.

Everyone hits bad batches now and then. Work bought a batch of Samsung 840s...4 of the 5 failed within a year.
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June 23, 2014 10:49:55 AM

I have the 512Gb MX100 and haven't had any issues. It was a great buy and scores 350 points higher in AS SSD vs my Vertex 3.

The drive was released this month and has great reviews. Not the fastest drive by any means but is MLC 16nm NAND. The question is endurance as manufacturers increase densities esp. for the TLC NAND.
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June 23, 2014 5:56:33 PM

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Sorry, I still won't buy one until they improve the maximum write cycles into the hundreds of thousands at the very least.


At the rate we replace, I am sure you would replace it before it died on you. Everything has a % failure rate. Tech report has written 600TB to 240/250GB drives, follow the link below to see.

http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd-endurance-ex...

To everyone else, are the Evo's actually bad? I haven't really been following them, last I heard they were pretty reliable.
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June 23, 2014 6:53:45 PM

anti-painkilla said:
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Sorry, I still won't buy one until they improve the maximum write cycles into the hundreds of thousands at the very least.


At the rate we replace, I am sure you would replace it before it died on you. Everything has a % failure rate. Tech report has written 600TB to 240/250GB drives, follow the link below to see.

http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd-endurance-ex...

To everyone else, are the Evo's actually bad? I haven't really been following them, last I heard they were pretty reliable.



They're not... but there are better options.
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