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June 21, 2014 10:32:01 AM

hi everyone. first sorry for my english.

I'm in a hurry looking for solution because tomorrow I'm going to buy new graphic card, and I think I want HIS R9 280 IceQ OC 3GB GDDR5 http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-801.shtml but the problem is, my budget is just for new graphic card, not for psu too.
I'm using this acbel 500w http://www.acbel.com/eng/Product.aspx?id=48&&sd=31&&pid... and my entire spec is:

- i3 2100 3,10GHz
- 1x8GB DDR3 corsair value select http://www.corsair.com/en/corsair-memory-8gb-ddr3-memor...
- intel desktop board dh61ww http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/des...
- seagate barracuda 2TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- WD 320GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- LG dvd drive (I just connect this drive when needed, but it disconnect all the time)

so, please for the answer. I need it. if I can running that spec+HIS R9 280 for the next couple of month, then I'll buy new psu latter. but for now, I just want to use my old acbel. I'm considering to buy 270x, but I think maybe I'll buy 280 (non x) cause my budget can reach it.

thanks for your attention.

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June 21, 2014 11:03:39 AM

i dont think watt is the problem!.Even though 700Watt is recommend for your card,but i think the quality of your PSU would be a issue!
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June 21, 2014 11:13:38 AM

Will it work? Possibly
Should you try it? HELL NO
Unless you want to chance the possibility of completely bricking your new GPU, your CPU, or other major components, you should definitely not use your PSU with that GPU.

Only ever buy a PSU if it is at least 80+ bronze rated, and made by a reputable company (Corsair, XFX, Seasonic etc)
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June 21, 2014 11:52:44 AM

FireManDude said:
i dont think watt is the problem!.Even though 700Watt is recommend for your card,but i think the quality of your PSU would be a issue!


CGurrell said:
Will it work? Possibly
Should you try it? HELL NO
Unless you want to chance the possibility of completely bricking your new GPU, your CPU, or other major components, you should definitely not use your PSU with that GPU.

Only ever buy a PSU if it is at least 80+ bronze rated, and made by a reputable company (Corsair, XFX, Seasonic etc)


first thanks for your answer. so there is no chance for me to have HIS 280 if I still using my PSU acbel? I think in the box it say that this PSU is bronze rated, and there's 80% efficiency in the website. is that don't help much for this PSU to run 280 GPU and my entire spec?
June 21, 2014 11:57:07 AM

its much more worth while to get a capable Power supply and not fear having your components taken out by a electric storm conjured by a Acbel PSU!,then you would be able to use your motherboard,GPU and other sensitive parts!,if you are sure you want to try this! then i suggest you make sure that it has protection aganist electrical Failure,I DO NOT ADVICE FOR YOU TO DO THIS

here is jonnyguru taking a look at http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=77&game... but this seems to be levels above your PSU as it is a gold certificate i think,i however not sure to show if it is a valid reason to show that your psu could operate your card!,just to show they might have other products in your range
June 21, 2014 12:12:35 PM

FireManDude said:
its much more worth while to get a capable Power supply and not fear having your components taken out by a electric storm conjured by a Acbel PSU!,then you would be able to use your motherboard,GPU and other sensitive parts!,if you are sure you want to try this! then i suggest you make sure that it has protection aganist electrical Failure,I DO NOT ADVICE FOR YOU TO DO THIS

here is jonnyguru taking a look at http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=77&game... but this seems to be levels above your PSU as it is a gold certificate i think,i however not sure to show if it is a valid reason to show that your psu could operate your card!,just to show they might have other products in your range


back in the day when I buy HIS ICEQX HD6790 and I'm just using simbadda PSU, my cpu always shutdown or restart by itself when I'm playing game. not long ago it make my hdd broke, and I think I don't want that to happen again :p 

yeah I'll read that game debate right away.

so how about this, if I just buy MSI Radeon R9-270X HAWK edition. is this good for gaming in the future? and most important is, can my PSU acbel handle MSI Radeon R9-270X HAWK edition?
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June 21, 2014 12:15:22 PM

Lukman Hakim said:
FireManDude said:
i dont think watt is the problem!.Even though 700Watt is recommend for your card,but i think the quality of your PSU would be a issue!


CGurrell said:
Will it work? Possibly
Should you try it? HELL NO
Unless you want to chance the possibility of completely bricking your new GPU, your CPU, or other major components, you should definitely not use your PSU with that GPU.

Only ever buy a PSU if it is at least 80+ bronze rated, and made by a reputable company (Corsair, XFX, Seasonic etc)


first thanks for your answer. so there is no chance for me to have HIS 280 if I still using my PSU acbel? I think in the box it say that this PSU is bronze rated, and there's 80% efficiency in the website. is that don't help much for this PSU to run 280 GPU and my entire spec?


Just had a look at specs (http://www.acbel.com/eng/Product.aspx?id=48&&sd=31&&pid...), it says it has 80% efficiency, however any power supply manufacturer can say their PSUs are 80% efficient, as it may be 80% efficient at medium loads, but not at low/full loads (Full being what will happen if you attach an r9 280). This power supply is NOT 80+ rated, it might say on the box that it is bronze rated, but in relation to what? Unless it has this logo printed on the box (http://hardzone.es/content/uploads/2012/08/80-Plus-Bron..., or silver, gold, platinum or titanium versions of this), and confirmation of its rating online, change it out before buying a GPU.
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June 21, 2014 12:25:23 PM

CGurrell said:
Lukman Hakim said:
FireManDude said:
i dont think watt is the problem!.Even though 700Watt is recommend for your card,but i think the quality of your PSU would be a issue!


CGurrell said:
Will it work? Possibly
Should you try it? HELL NO
Unless you want to chance the possibility of completely bricking your new GPU, your CPU, or other major components, you should definitely not use your PSU with that GPU.

Only ever buy a PSU if it is at least 80+ bronze rated, and made by a reputable company (Corsair, XFX, Seasonic etc)


first thanks for your answer. so there is no chance for me to have HIS 280 if I still using my PSU acbel? I think in the box it say that this PSU is bronze rated, and there's 80% efficiency in the website. is that don't help much for this PSU to run 280 GPU and my entire spec?


Just had a look at specs (http://www.acbel.com/eng/Product.aspx?id=48&&sd=31&&pid...), it says it has 80% efficiency, however any power supply manufacturer can say their PSUs are 80% efficient, as it may be 80% efficient at medium loads, but not at low/full loads (Full being what will happen if you attach an r9 280). This power supply is NOT 80+ rated, it might say on the box that it is bronze rated, but in relation to what? Unless it has this logo printed on the box (http://hardzone.es/content/uploads/2012/08/80-Plus-Bron..., or silver, gold, platinum or titanium versions of this), and confirmation of its rating online, change it out before buying a GPU.


And even then, there are lousy 80+ rated PSUs, simply because they're certifying the efficiency of the energy use, not the various other things that we want our good power supplies to do.

For the original poster, you may very well be able to run your card on that PSU. But good computer parts need clean power. Just like you shouldn't run your car 15,000 miles between oil changes, or the take pills you find in a prescription bottle at the town dump, you shouldn't be running a PC you care about on a junk power supply. I don't want you to have to be posting again here in 6 months asking for advice when your PC no longer starts after you saw sparks.

Nobody on this thread gets a cut when you buy a quality power supply. We recommend these things not because we want to make you spend money, but because we want you to have the best and most dependable build you can have.
June 21, 2014 12:31:18 PM

Lol PSU is something you can not EVER go cheap on! its better you put your money into a recognized,certified power supply instead of risking damage! and wait later for a GPU,instead of buying one now and getting blackscreens when you have been playing for 20 minutes because the PSU cant deal with the power,then you have a machine that you can only game on for 20 minute breaks,then the Sparks start coming! like said above,it sounds like a horror story,but it exists and popular with people whos power supplies cant deal with there power loving GPU cards!
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June 21, 2014 12:33:09 PM

DSzymborski said:
CGurrell said:
Lukman Hakim said:
FireManDude said:
i dont think watt is the problem!.Even though 700Watt is recommend for your card,but i think the quality of your PSU would be a issue!


CGurrell said:
Will it work? Possibly
Should you try it? HELL NO
Unless you want to chance the possibility of completely bricking your new GPU, your CPU, or other major components, you should definitely not use your PSU with that GPU.

Only ever buy a PSU if it is at least 80+ bronze rated, and made by a reputable company (Corsair, XFX, Seasonic etc)


first thanks for your answer. so there is no chance for me to have HIS 280 if I still using my PSU acbel? I think in the box it say that this PSU is bronze rated, and there's 80% efficiency in the website. is that don't help much for this PSU to run 280 GPU and my entire spec?


Just had a look at specs (http://www.acbel.com/eng/Product.aspx?id=48&&sd=31&&pid...), it says it has 80% efficiency, however any power supply manufacturer can say their PSUs are 80% efficient, as it may be 80% efficient at medium loads, but not at low/full loads (Full being what will happen if you attach an r9 280). This power supply is NOT 80+ rated, it might say on the box that it is bronze rated, but in relation to what? Unless it has this logo printed on the box (http://hardzone.es/content/uploads/2012/08/80-Plus-Bron..., or silver, gold, platinum or titanium versions of this), and confirmation of its rating online, change it out before buying a GPU.


And even then, there are lousy 80+ rated PSUs, simply because they're certifying the efficiency of the energy use, not the various other things that we want our good power supplies to do.

For the original poster, you may very well be able to run your card on that PSU. But good computer parts need clean power. Just like you shouldn't run your car 15,000 miles between oil changes, or the take pills you find in a prescription bottle at the town dump, you shouldn't be running a PC you care about on a junk power supply. I don't want you to have to be posting again here in 6 months asking for advice when your PC no longer starts after you saw sparks.

Nobody on this thread gets a cut when you buy a quality power supply. We recommend these things not because we want to make you spend money, but because we want you to have the best and most dependable build you can have.


Exactly. The best advice would be to look for 80+ rating, then look around at reviews online to make sure everything checks out, before buying your new PSU, and definitely before upgrading anything else.

You can replace a bad GPU, you can replace a bad CPU, you can replace bad RAM, but you can't replace those things when they're broken by a bad PSU.
June 21, 2014 12:34:48 PM

CGurrell said:

Just had a look at specs (http://www.acbel.com/eng/Product.aspx?id=48&&sd=31&&pid...), it says it has 80% efficiency, however any power supply manufacturer can say their PSUs are 80% efficient, as it may be 80% efficient at medium loads, but not at low/full loads (Full being what will happen if you attach an r9 280). This power supply is NOT 80+ rated, it might say on the box that it is bronze rated, but in relation to what? Unless it has this logo printed on the box (http://hardzone.es/content/uploads/2012/08/80-Plus-Bron..., or silver, gold, platinum or titanium versions of this), and confirmation of its rating online, change it out before buying a GPU.


here's the box. and yeah I forgot that in the box there's no logo about bronze :p  I just remember it say 80% efficiency. so I think yeah, I have no chance to use 280 on this PSU. so, how about if I just buy 270x than? is it worth for future gaming? (GTAV for example) and can my PSU acbel handle to run the 270x for awhile before I buy a new PSU?


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June 21, 2014 12:38:29 PM

Lukman Hakim said:
CGurrell said:

Just had a look at specs (http://www.acbel.com/eng/Product.aspx?id=48&&sd=31&&pid...), it says it has 80% efficiency, however any power supply manufacturer can say their PSUs are 80% efficient, as it may be 80% efficient at medium loads, but not at low/full loads (Full being what will happen if you attach an r9 280). This power supply is NOT 80+ rated, it might say on the box that it is bronze rated, but in relation to what? Unless it has this logo printed on the box (http://hardzone.es/content/uploads/2012/08/80-Plus-Bron..., or silver, gold, platinum or titanium versions of this), and confirmation of its rating online, change it out before buying a GPU.


here's the box. and yeah I forgot that in the box there's no logo about bronze :p  I just remember it say 80% efficiency. so I think yeah, I have no chance to use 280 on this PSU. so, how about if I just buy 270x than? is it worth for future gaming? (GTAV for example) and can my PSU acbel handle to run the 270x for awhile before I buy a new PSU?




Again, it's possible to run a 270X, but DON'T TRY IT.

Like i said before, it says it is 80% efficient, but there is no way to tell at what loads it is 80% efficient. For all you know it is 25% efficient under full load.

Imagine your PC is a car, your GPU is your engine, and your PSU is your gas. If your engine needs premium gas and you give it regular, it won't work properly (if at all) and will destroy the rest of your car. Don't risk it.
June 21, 2014 12:48:16 PM

thanks for all the quick answers! :D  now I know what to do. what you guys recommend for PSU 600w/650w bronze but with a good price? (not too high)
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June 21, 2014 12:49:56 PM

Lukman Hakim said:
thanks for all the quick answers! :D  now I know what to do. what you guys recommend for PSU 600w/650w bronze but with a good price? (not too high)


Where are you located?
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June 21, 2014 1:17:24 PM


the litepower 450w got a great review, however the 600 and 700w models are made by the same manufacturer as the trupower RX series which have horrible reviews. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-ma... I wouldnt risk it. Also the 700w is peak power, it is really a 600w psu (if it can produce its rated power.) I would rather take a 550w antec than a 700w thermaltake. said:

the litepower 450w got a great review, however the 600 and 700w models are made by the same manufacturer as the trupower RX series which have horrible reviews. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-ma... I wouldnt risk it. Also the 700w is peak power, it is really a 600w psu (if it can produce its rated power.) I would rather take a 550w antec than a 700w thermaltake.


From another post (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/308314-28-thermalta...). Look for 80+ branding first, then ask around. Don't look for a big number like 700W and expect it to be great.

Have a look at the Corsair CX600m if it's available in your area, it's a good, reliable power supply with a 3 year warranty and 80+ bronze rated

EDIT: Quantum Computer (indonesia) stocks it according to this list http://www.rakitan.com/kategori.php?id=29
June 21, 2014 10:50:07 PM

CGurrell said:
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00114095/corsair_cs... Also look at this if you can afford it, Corsairs CS650m 80+ GOLD rated


than how about the cx 600w series like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ? is this a good power supply too? it has bronze Certified too.
and if I use this PSU, can it take to handle 280, and maybe a new i7 and new mobo in the future? (I'm not going to crossfire by the way)
if not, is that cx600m can handle that?

edit:
http://www.amazon.in/SEASONIC-SERIES-SUPPLY-EFFICIENCY-... how about this seasonic?
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June 22, 2014 3:28:26 AM

That seasonic looks good according to http://www.ocfreaks.com/forums/f95/seasonic-eco-600w-te... :)  The cx600 and cx600m are the same PSU, except that the cx600m is modular and the cx600 is not.

If you're upgrading your mobo and CPU in the future, it might be worth getting a 700W PSU just to be on the safe side.
June 22, 2014 12:51:48 PM

CGurrell said:
That seasonic looks good according to http://www.ocfreaks.com/forums/f95/seasonic-eco-600w-te... :)  The cx600 and cx600m are the same PSU, except that the cx600m is modular and the cx600 is not.

If you're upgrading your mobo and CPU in the future, it might be worth getting a 700W PSU just to be on the safe side.


I'm thinking about corsair CX750 if I'm going to buy 700w PSU. what do you think? than how about corsair VS650? is this PSU can handle 280 and future upgrade for mobo and procie? I know its doesn't have bronze certified, but I read review about this one and a lot of people say this PSU is good.
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June 22, 2014 1:05:00 PM

If you can get the cx750 (or even better cx750m for modular cables, meaning better cable management and, in turn, better asthetics and cooling), then go for it, it's a great PSU, but I've heard some horror stories where the vs650 is involved, so I would stay away. Corsair are a good brand but almost all good brands have some bad products.
June 22, 2014 1:14:03 PM

CGurrell said:
If you can get the cx750 (or even better cx750m for modular cables, meaning better cable management and, in turn, better asthetics and cooling), then go for it, it's a great PSU, but I've heard some horror stories where the vs650 is involved, so I would stay away. Corsair are a good brand but almost all good brands have some bad products.


than I think I'll save more money to buy cx750/cx750m :D  thanks for all your help all this time! very helpful on my situation
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June 22, 2014 1:22:51 PM

Lukman Hakim said:
CGurrell said:
If you can get the cx750 (or even better cx750m for modular cables, meaning better cable management and, in turn, better asthetics and cooling), then go for it, it's a great PSU, but I've heard some horror stories where the vs650 is involved, so I would stay away. Corsair are a good brand but almost all good brands have some bad products.


than I think I'll save more money to buy cx750/cx750m :D  thanks for all your help all this time! very helpful on my situation


no problem :)  Also have a look at what other 280's you can get, different coolers don't make a ton of difference unless you want to OC, so if there's another aftermarket cooled 280 for less than the one you're looking at then it's worth a look
June 22, 2014 9:20:33 PM

CGurrell said:


no problem :)  Also have a look at what other 280's you can get, different coolers don't make a ton of difference unless you want to OC, so if there's another aftermarket cooled 280 for less than the one you're looking at then it's worth a look


Hi again! I think I got another question :p  I found in my country this two PSU is available http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/SP-730P/ in your opinion, what is the best I can get?

about another 280 I think I'll stick to HIS because the price is reasonable for my budget. in RUPIAH it's Rp. 3.500.000 (about 292USD) and the MSI one is Rp.4.000.000 (about 334USD). with that budget (334USD) I can get HIS ICEQX2 280x. but the problem is my budget for new graphic card is only 292USD :p 
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June 23, 2014 12:46:54 AM

Lukman Hakim said:
CGurrell said:


no problem :)  Also have a look at what other 280's you can get, different coolers don't make a ton of difference unless you want to OC, so if there's another aftermarket cooled 280 for less than the one you're looking at then it's worth a look


Hi again! I think I got another question :p  I found in my country this two PSU is available http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/SP-730P/ in your opinion, what is the best I can get?

about another 280 I think I'll stick to HIS because the price is reasonable for my budget. in RUPIAH it's Rp. 3.500.000 (about 292USD) and the MSI one is Rp.4.000.000 (about 334USD). with that budget (334USD) I can get HIS ICEQX2 280x. but the problem is my budget for new graphic card is only 292USD :p 


Neither of those power supplies is any good really, if you can afford to then stick with the corsair cx750
!