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Liquid Cooled AMD FX-Series CPU Teased by AMD Insider

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June 24, 2014 6:18:59 AM

This only shows one thing, more heat is going to be produced.
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June 24, 2014 6:25:13 AM

Why not just cut the price and let the user decide which cooler to use? Seems like this small cooler would barely be able to handle the chip under full load.
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June 24, 2014 6:32:46 AM

Now this is interesting if it's going to be silent and also low TDP (less than 125W). I'm afraid that the motive for watercooling has been overblown TDP (more than 140W). Rather frustrating if it's all just overoverclocked old chips...
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June 24, 2014 6:33:21 AM

Don't the higher clocked fx cpus (4.8GHz etc) require liquid cooling anyway because of the huge power consumption and heat generated? So what's new with this?
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June 24, 2014 6:34:02 AM

Now this is interesting if it's going to be silent and also low TDP (less than 125W). I'm afraid that the motive for watercooling has been overblown TDP (more than 140W). Rather frustrating if it's all just overoverclocked old chips...
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June 24, 2014 6:41:19 AM

Unless it is a 28nm FX at 125w i am not interested.. and if it was it would not need a liquid cooler.

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June 24, 2014 6:41:30 AM

"water cooled versions of the FX-9370 and FX-9590"

Didn't those chips need water-cooling anyway, just because of how hot they were? I mean the FFX 9590 was 220W FFS!
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June 24, 2014 6:41:53 AM

my last AMD processor Phenom II 965 i can't think on these FX lines. This is expensive and burn To hard. I compare FX line with the Pentium 805D Overclock like hell but Bring Down the temps and power to knees.
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June 24, 2014 7:43:30 AM


Now that the *FX* moniker has crossed 'architectures' a water-cooled FX Kaveri Steamroller APU with 512 Radeon cores would be spiffy.

The FX-9xxx Piledrivers will run 4.7GHz at 1.36v at 280w system load. An i7 'Haswell' at the same clocks will blow past 200w, easy ...

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June 24, 2014 8:02:43 AM

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Now that the *FX* moniker has crossed 'architectures' a water-cooled FX Kaveri Steamroller APU with 512 Radeon cores would be spiffy.

The FX-9xxx Piledrivers will run 4.7GHz at 1.36v at 280w system load. An i7 'Haswell' at the same clocks will blow past 200w, easy ...



and be twice as fast per thread
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June 24, 2014 8:05:03 AM

Wisecracker said:

Now that the *FX* moniker has crossed 'architectures' a water-cooled FX Kaveri Steamroller APU with 512 Radeon cores would be spiffy.

The FX-9xxx Piledrivers will run 4.7GHz at 1.36v at 280w system load. An i7 'Haswell' at the same clocks will blow past 200w, easy ...


I could only imagine the raw power of a Steamroller FX with liquid cooling released at 5ghz
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June 24, 2014 8:05:09 AM

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and be twice as fast per thread


Which means absolutely nothing in a highly multi-threaded environment, which is the purpose of an 8 integer core FX processor.

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June 24, 2014 8:07:45 AM

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and be twice as fast per thread


Which means absolutely nothing in a highly multi-threaded environment, which is the purpose of an 8 integer core FX processor.


I think it means alot.. i mean more performance per ghz with less power consumption.
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June 24, 2014 8:18:41 AM

if only and only AMD able to cut down its tdp, im pretty sure many ppl will love it..
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June 24, 2014 8:40:17 AM

It is clearly an ad for laptops you can bring with you to the beach and into the water.
Clearly...

Water too cold? Bring an AMD!
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June 24, 2014 8:41:25 AM

I'm wondering if they're trying to get somewhat of a lock in the high performance department. They released the R9-295X2 with factory watercooling, and it has proven to be extremely fast and very quiet. Match it up with a watercooled FX processor and hopefully get more of the same.

That being said, I'd love to see this applied to (as mentioned) a very highly clocked APU. One of the big problems with the APU's is the heat generated by both the CPU and the GPU tends to drop clocks for BOTH units. So - having a nice watercooler could certainly enable getting some extra thermal headroom for them.
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June 24, 2014 9:06:59 AM

. . . and yet it will still be unable to best some i3's and most i5's in the majority gaming benchmarks. Come on AMD, if only to get Intel back on the performance pumping CPU launches rather than this wimpy energy efficiency crap of the last few cycles.
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June 24, 2014 9:07:34 AM

chaosmassive said:
if only and only AMD able to cut down its tdp, im pretty sure many ppl will love it..


universal remonster said:
it has already been reported that it is the 9590 refresh to try and answer the Devil's Canyon release.
http://www.techpowerup.com/202388/amd-to-launch-fx-9590...


It dont think it has anything to do with trying to answer Intel devil's canyon.. you cant even really compare the chips.
It is just AMD doing what they should have done in the first place... give you a decent cooler that can handle a couple extra 100mhz.
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June 24, 2014 10:35:54 AM

AWESOME! Even though I want to switch to Intel, I'm still pumped that AMD isn't (completely) abandoning their FX series. Also, on the front of the box in the image, right below the picture of the processor itself, there's some really blurred text. But if you look closely, don't the last 3 letters of that text kind of look like the numbers "450"? Either that or it's 4 numbers and it says "4350" -- it's really hard to tell and that means a big difference. That'd either mean a re-release of an FX-4350 (I'd have to ask why) or... a continuation of the FX series with the FX-8450!!!
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June 24, 2014 11:30:35 AM

i like AMD. Even if their CPUs are a tier lower than Intels, AMD is pumping real good value. I am sure that the FX 9590 @ a lower price (lets say, under the i7 4790k) with this water cooler will be more apreciated than what intel has to offer. I mean, trow anything @ that FX (game/ what ever) and it will run it. Sure 220W TDp sounds "bad", but how much TDP has the flagship i7 @ 5 GHz? anyone made the math?
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June 24, 2014 11:36:12 AM

You can't really compare clock to clock for Intel to AMD. Intel stomps all over AMD clock for clock in pretty much any category. The 83XX or 95XX from AMD are really competing vs the i5 chips.
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June 24, 2014 11:50:24 AM

If they give me another overpriced 32nm chip i am going to walk into my nearest computer store and take a dump on that stupid box. If they give me a 28nm 8 core chip I am going to send them back my 8350 in a box filled with it and moldy cheese cause I am tired of the AMD lies.
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June 24, 2014 12:16:20 PM

I hope its a new socket
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June 24, 2014 2:07:57 PM

AMD needs to make some 47W and 57W TDP mobile APUs. 35W isn't big time at all
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June 24, 2014 2:38:46 PM

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I don't see why article says "Could these finally be the water-cooled Vishera processors we heard about a long time ago, possibly water cooled versions of the FX-9370 and FX-9590?" I remember see those a while back on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Yup, I have one in my all-AMD system right now (9590)...shipped with a water cooler in the same box.
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June 24, 2014 3:37:13 PM

A new performance part that isn't an APU by AMD would be very exciting. The 83XX are great chips, would love to see a true refresh.
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June 24, 2014 6:02:09 PM

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I don't see why article says "Could these finally be the water-cooled Vishera processors we heard about a long time ago, possibly water cooled versions of the FX-9370 and FX-9590?" I remember see those a while back on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Agreed. The "something new" tagline wouldn't apply if it was just a straight up re-release. I would guess it's better binned chips, targeted at casual overclockers. Worst case it's the same chips with a new, better watercooler - although that would be disappointing. Outside of their reasonably price "daily driver" APUs (good for budget systems and mobile solutions) I don't expect to see anything really exciting from AMD until ~2016 when their new ground-up architecture is done cooking.
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June 24, 2014 8:42:12 PM

Something tells me it won't be Steam Roller cores, but Pile Driver cores with a lot more power running into them. I still like the idea of the cooler it comes with being a closed loop water cooling setup; won't need to buy my own or build a water cooling setup.
There was also a rumor running around that they will be branding some APUs as FX series. Something ludicrous like the chips they used in the PS4/XBox360 released for desktops.
However, I want to be surprised with an 8 or 16 core AMD setup on a new socket with quad channel DDR4 and each core with a better per thread performance than Intel for less money and lower wattage.
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June 24, 2014 8:59:33 PM

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Now that the *FX* moniker has crossed 'architectures' a water-cooled FX Kaveri Steamroller APU with 512 Radeon cores would be spiffy.

The FX-9xxx Piledrivers will run 4.7GHz at 1.36v at 280w system load. An i7 'Haswell' at the same clocks will blow past 200w, easy ...



Well, if any indication, my i5 4670k has the same TDP as, say, the i7 4770k. And even at 4.8GHz (o/c), was drawing in the 120-140W range if i remember correctly. And the temps were around 25-30 (idle), 65-75 on full load (encoding on 4 cores) and 85-95 on aida64 stress test The way i see it, the only reason why one would go AMD instead of Intel, is to save some dough, which is understandable. You would need to look at an overclocked i7 in the lga2011 socket to be in those consumption ranges, and nothing AMD does comes close in terms of performances ATM, let alone performance per watt.
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June 24, 2014 10:04:59 PM

Yaaay. I still wont purchase their products until they handle the long term usage of their products.
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June 24, 2014 10:07:02 PM

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Now that the *FX* moniker has crossed 'architectures' a water-cooled FX Kaveri Steamroller APU with 512 Radeon cores would be spiffy.

The FX-9xxx Piledrivers will run 4.7GHz at 1.36v at 280w system load. An i7 'Haswell' at the same clocks will blow past 200w, easy ...



and be twice as fast per thread

Yet but be 10 times as stable over a 5 year period..
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June 25, 2014 8:55:49 AM

I'm hoping for something ridiculous, 16 cores clocked the same as an FX-8350 would be nice, but I highly doubt that will happen. More likely its just another high clocked FX-80xx series or a rerelease of a current chip. But I want to be wrong so bad, I want it to be something new, a super clocked Kaveri with 1024 stream processors? A Super clocked 8 core Kaveri that fits into FM2+? Anything really, the desktop CPU market has just been so dull compared to years past, but I guess the money isn't where it used to be, and the markets responding accordingly :-/.
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June 25, 2014 8:56:52 PM

It will be a marketing gimmick if it's the same 9370 and 9590 bundled with cheap liquid coolers for a price premium. You can buy the CPU by itself and give yourself a choice of what quality liquid cooler you want to install. And even so, the i7-4790k will still blow them out of the water, especially when overclocked on a Noctua NH-D14 fan cooler. :p 
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June 26, 2014 4:54:19 AM

falchard said:
Something tells me it won't be Steam Roller cores, but Pile Driver cores with a lot more power running into them. I still like the idea of the cooler it comes with being a closed loop water cooling setup; won't need to buy my own or build a water cooling setup.
There was also a rumor running around that they will be branding some APUs as FX series. Something ludicrous like the chips they used in the PS4/XBox360 released for desktops.
However, I want to be surprised with an 8 or 16 core AMD setup on a new socket with quad channel DDR4 and each core with a better per thread performance than Intel for less money and lower wattage.


It wouldn't surprise me if Amd promised that and had lots of marketing presentations to promote it, only for reality to be somewhat different.
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June 26, 2014 8:25:43 AM


It's amazing how an Intel fan boys' self-esteem is dependent upon trolling threads about AMD ... and crapping in them.

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June 27, 2014 12:27:53 PM

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It is clearly an ad for laptops you can bring with you to the beach and into the water.
Clearly...

Water too cold? Bring an AMD!

Haha, AMD fan but that was funny
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July 2, 2014 12:23:51 AM

Bundling liquid cooling seems like a bit of a gimmick; anyone that can handle installing their own processor can handle installing an all-in-one liquid cooling unit. I can understand bundling liquid cooling with high end graphics cards, as they have so many variations that many coolers don't fit properly without work arounds or building the whole loop yourself with a specially designed water block, but a CPU? Unless the price and cooler are just right, I really don't see this offering anything useful.
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July 2, 2014 12:23:51 AM

Bundling liquid cooling seems like a bit of a gimmick; anyone that can handle installing their own processor can handle installing an all-in-one liquid cooling unit. I can understand bundling liquid cooling with high end graphics cards, as they have so many variations that many coolers don't fit properly without work arounds or building the whole loop yourself with a specially designed water block, but a CPU? Unless the price and cooler are just right, I really don't see this offering anything useful.
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July 4, 2014 3:26:09 AM

Just ordered a 9370 (and motherboard/cooling/ram) in a braindead effort to support AMD's "high" end CPU's before they die out completely. If I can upgrade to a better AMD-cpu than the 9370 in 2016 I'll be pleased. Unless it uses yet more power... Sigh.
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July 9, 2014 11:27:53 AM

This cpu is v nice 4 every person
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July 10, 2014 3:53:53 PM

Wisecracker said:

It's amazing how an Intel fan boys' self-esteem is dependent upon trolling threads about AMD ... and crapping in them.



Why does everyone who likes a certain product have to be a fan boy?
I have built about 20 boxes with AMD (this from the late 90's). Never been happy with the ones that I personally have built after the chips have died. I had a Celeron that I oc'ed past a 466 P2 and it lasted for 6 years (was using it as a little gaming machine and than as an extra render box) Finally I called it quits when my 2200+ during college decided that it wanted to overheat and blow one of the resistors on the gigabyte mobo without OCing it. I sent it to Gigabyte they replaced the board and I put the chip back in the thing didnt turn on or get hot. NO response. So it was dead. And yes I know what I am doing A+, I even took the pretest to get it renewed and got a 95% so I am still pretty well versed in the computer world.. Im not trying to be egotisical here but sheesh.
I built boxes for friends with AMD for the cheap pricing and some of them had problems with their setups afterwords so I had to spend money to replace it (which means me taking money out of my pocket because no warranty after certain times.)
Their chips are good and fast but they just dont seem to last as long as intels. EVEN AT STOCK SPEEDS. I dont like overclocking my processors for good reason. Keeps them more stable for longer periods.
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August 15, 2014 1:28:24 AM

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if only and only AMD able to cut down its tdp, im pretty sure many ppl will love it..


Well i have said. AMD needs to pay someone to do a drone strike on intel chip designers. It will take years for Intel to get back and it will give time for AMD to catch up. AMD needs to think outside the box.
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