Which spec/cpu is better? (i5-4690 or FX-8320)

Which one should i go for? i5 4690 or fx-8320

  • Fx-8320

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • i5-4690

    Votes: 18 75.0%

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Littlesackninja

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HI im building a pc on:
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/3ULavNupyZ/
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http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/amd-bulldozer-top-spec-pc/

Which spec is better?

Spec 1:
Case
ZALMAN Z11 PLUS BLACK MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4690 (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, XFIRE/SLI
Memory (RAM)
4GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk
120GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 410MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET (£99)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler (£29)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Spec 2:
Case
ZALMAN Z11 PLUS BLACK MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD FX-8320 Eight Core CPU (3.50GHz/8MB CACHE/AM3+)
Motherboard
Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 AM3+ (ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
4GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk
120GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 410MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET (£139)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler (£29)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

So which spec is better? the 1st one is around £30 more expensive but i hear the cpu is better.
I also hear i can overclock lots with the 8320, if so will the cooler handle it and to what level will it go to with that cooler. Same goes for the i5
 

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For performance, power consumption and heat production the i5 is better in every way. Although to overclock the i5 you will need to get a K edition
 

bartholomew

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There would barely be any real world performance difference between the two.

Intel charges a premium for overclockers, you'll have to buy an unlocked K edition cpu.

For the fx build, you don't really need the 1000w psu. All you need is good quality 650w.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071

You could use the saved cash on a better cooler like the NH u14s for the FX8320.
You can expect an overclock of 4.5~4.8Ghz with the U14s or 4.2~4.5Ghz with the 212 Evo, depending on your chip & you ambient temps.
 

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Can I vote neither? I would never buy a locked i5 and put it on a Z97 motherboard unless I just HAD to have SLI/xfire. I would never get any FX for any reason.

I would go for an i5 4570 or 4590 and put it on a H97 motherboard. You would save a LOT of money right there that you could put towards a better video card like the R9 290 if you wanted. It would come out cheaper than the FX8320 setup if you kept the 770.

You'll want 8GB of RAM sooner or later.


Did you intend to run dual video cards? If not, you don't need anywhere near 850-1000w to run that system.
 

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Have you ever built a system with an FX series chip?
 

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If you can afford it, I would go with the Intel build if only for the Z97 mobo. That board can handle the new i7-4970k processor. Regarding the AMD CPU, it is a much better CPU than the i5! The i5 only has 4 threads compared to the 8 threaded 8320.

With the AMD build, you are looking at upgrading to the 9000 series and that is it. Not to say those chips will not get the job done for many years to come (8 integer cores, and 4 floating point cores clocked from 4 ghz to 5 ghz). However, it is hard to fight the "upgrade bug" once you build your first system! The AM3+ socket is dead, that is why I would recommend the Intel build for the motherboard.
 

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Honestly, I'd do Spec 2. But, with that extra cash you'll save over Spec 1, I'd recommend a few things that would be more beneficial for you.

1. Bump up the memory to at least 8GB, if you could shoot for 12GB that would be even more awesome. Remember that Windows 7 in general recommends 8GB and most latest games are as well. Extra headroom of above 8GB would be great. But could always be upgraded later.

2. I'd swap out that GTX 770 for a R9 280x mainly because you are getting more bang for you buck. Latest games are recommending 3GB of vram now for their Ultra settings, so the 770 would be a downfall on that part. They do have 4GB 770 models as well, but you are paying a premium that wouldn't make sense in getting at all. For the price of a 4GB 770 you could easily get an awesome R9 290 which would easily outperform the 770 and is a step up. You could easily get a brand new Sapphire Toxic 280x for $299 which is the best 280x you could get and still cheaper than brand new 770. Could go cheaper if you really wanted to and still get similar performance to a 770.

3. You really don't need a 1000w power supply. I'd shoot for at least a 750w. Even if you decided to Crossfire or Sli in the future. You would still have enough power to handle that. Just make sure your power supply is 80 Plus Certified at least Bronze and up.

4. For that CPU Cooler (Hyper 212 Evo) make sure that will fit correctly in the Mid-Tower case you are getting. It definitely is a big cooler. Want to make sure the case is wide enough. If not, definitely shoot up to a Full-Tower if possible. The extra headroom and cooling would be awesome. These video cards aren't small anymore either. They definitely start to take up room. Also if you do want to Crossfire/Sli eventually. That extra room will count.

5. Although the i5 is a better performing CPU. The FX-8320 is a great CPU and will easily handle whatever you want. You could easily overclock it to 4Ghz and match a 8350 and save yourself easily $60. I usually see the FX-8320 on sale for $100. Which is an awesome deal. I currently run and have since it came out an FX-8120 which is the very first line of the FX series. I have had zero issues with gaming or anything. I currently still run it at stock clock speeds as well. For the price of the 8320, I may consider upgrading myself sometime this year. It really is up to you on this one. i5 is a great processor as well, but really comes down to if you would like to put that extra money into other parts, which I would recommend. Either way, will not go wrong on these.

6. I've seen the ASUS Sabretooth 990fx motherboard go on sale as low as $60 just recently. It is an amazing motherboard. Although, there is a new version of it out, the Asus Sabretooth 990fx Rev2.0 which is around $169. I have the first model of this board and it is great. Zero issues and are quality built boards. Just a recommendation. I'm sure that Gigabyte board is great as well as I have used them in the past for other builds.
 

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Ok thanks, Is it worth it buying it on the website i listed or building it myself? I have no experience in this the most i know is a video i saw of somone putting some parts in.
Is it easy to install the compnents and do they all come with their required cables?
(Will i need to buy cables of the internet, Excluding hdmi ect)

Also Gonzano can you write a quick list of what i should get for around £880/$1500

Also this says the 8320 is almost equal to the i5: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-AMD-FX-8320
 

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It is fairly simple putting a computer together. But if you don't feel comfortable doing it, you could have the website do it for you. Do you know how much extra it is for them to build it for you and send it out? Also, is there any local computer shops near you, if so I'm sure they could handle the build for you? You should be able to just bring in all your parts.

You shouldn't have to buy any other cables at all. Computer parts usually come with everything you need.

Yeah, I should be able to get a list together for you. I'll try to get that together ASAP.

Yup, the 8320 is a really solid CPU. As you can see, when I mentioned that the i5 is a little faster, its in the Single Core Performance. But all in all and real world use, you probably wouldn't even notice the difference.
 

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Ok thanks! What motherboard do you suggest though, I have have seen a few videos and seen high end pc's using gigabyte ones, Are the gigabyte ones good and if so which one/ones (Preferabley has sli)?

Also can you have sli enabled if you also have intergrated graphics? or does it disable it?
Is the motherboard i listed for amd cpus a good one?
 
they are better for different uses. for gaming + general use the i5 is above and beyond. For gaming + streaming, or video editing, or 3D animation (programs that can benefit from 8 cores) the FX 8320 will blow the i5 out of the water. in fact, the 8320 will beat the i5 in everything other than single core performance, in which case is about 45-50% better than the FX 8320, def something to consider. But the FX has twice as many cores, so they tend to balance out there. this is why the i5 is better for gaming, most games are threaded closer to 4 than 8 threads.

**BUT** When DX 12 comes out, the new API for consoles and PC alike, it will give the FX the edge over the i5. DX 12 is being written from scratch for CORES, to use as many cores as are available. something relatively new in the PC gaming world.

heres a benchmark i ran with the green bar being my very own FX 8320 at stock. everything is at stock and this test doesnt use turbo speeds of any of the chips.
green = FX 8320
purple= i5 4670k
yellow= i7 4770k
http://imageshack.com/a/img855/5489/z3es.jpg
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i have tons of games but dont play that often. i do all my graphic design on here though and do 3D modeling as a hobby so for renders the FX will make a big difference. For the record i never experience any problems with my AAA titles with my HD 7870. BF3, Metro 2033, Bioshock inf, batmans, crysis 3, all play at ultra with smooth frames. Mantle and DX 12 will only make it better. Plus games are mostly GPU limited not CPU limited. past the i5/8320 point few games CPU bottleneck.
 


rumor has it AMD is working on a four core FX 8310 or something like that for the AM3+ socket, i think it will see continued support..they are just working on something to put out!
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014062401_AMD_to_launch_new_FX_processor.html
 

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There are many high-end motherboard brands. I am a fan of ASUS, and have used Gigabyte in the past with really positive reviews as well. I know others that have used MSI boards as well. You won't go wrong with either of these at all as long as you get a model that has what you need and any extra bells and whistles.

Remember, that if you can do either SLi(nVidia) or Crossfire(AMD). Just depends on what board you are using and what it supports.

Yes, that Gigabyte motherboard is a good one. I believe this is the latest model and has high reviews on it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

Definitely want to make sure the one you have in mind is the same one.
 

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Oooooh, can't wait to see how that processor performs. Would love to upgrade to it if it really is worth it. Really hoping they do stick to the AM3+ socket. Love my motherboard too much to swap it out ;)
 

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Agree with you all the way. It seems that many applications and even games are starting to really utilize Multi-cores much more now and thats definitely a big ++ for AMD. Especially with the new consoles also fully running AMD as well.
 


well think of it this way from an industrial standpoint. We can only make processors with so small a nm structure (how far transistors are spaced apart). Moores law is slowing down and we are really hitting a wall in single core performance. But thats not a bad thing, per se. We just have to write a lot of our software, games, and eventually operating systems from scratch to utilize them properly. So we have no choice but to utilize multiple cores until we have a breakthrough in manufacturing like enhancing silcon somehow or ditching it altogether for a new material more resistant to heat.
 

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Definitely understand that and agree with you. Can appreciate learning something new everyday. Thanks for sharing that information.
 

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That video card is EXTREMELY overpriced and not needed at all. Honestly, I'd rather shoot for a R9 280x, you will save money for very close performance and you have 3GB vram which is definitely enough for the latest games and should last you awhile. The 770 is a very slightly faster card, but not enough to justify the price. Also, they only come in 2GB and 4GB models. 4GB is overpriced and for that same cost, you could get a R9 290 which is a more powerful card and is the next step up. Latest games now are starting to require 3GB for Ultra settings and will even lock out the Ultra settings. There are some games that will use up to 2.25 GB of vram now. So the extra leeway of having up to 3GB is definitely nice.
 

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You have a field to plow, which would you rather have to work with:

8 ponies or 4 draft horses?

Hint just cause you have more doesn't mean it's better.


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Not all "cores" are created equal.
 

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Iv been looking around and actually and i looked for the cheapest price for all the parts on a few websites like newegg. In total its this build but with a wireless card for £770, so i could probably spend a bit more on stuff. Is there anything i should upgrade with the spare £100 / $161 other than the GC?
 

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When it comes to GTX Nvidia cards. EVGA cards are really great ones. I'd highly recommend them. There was just a sale for a R9 290 for $370 a few days ago and I've seen i go as low as $350 out the door for a Sapphire Tri-X 290 which is an amazing and much better card. Still, I'd consider the R9 280x if it is cheaper for you.