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Rumor: Windows 9 May Be Revealed Next Week

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July 10, 2014 5:10:53 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with the subscription based payment method if they also offered a one time payment
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July 10, 2014 5:11:43 PM

Ahhh the good ol' subscription system. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they even added micro-transactions like they do in some games today. Just amazing what corporations today will do for a buck you know? God Bless America.. *Insert massive sarcasm here* =(
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July 10, 2014 5:15:05 PM

No I am not going to "rent" my OS. I would pay $1 per month max if they went that route otherwise I would start purchasing an apple (yeah I know I said it)
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July 10, 2014 5:27:18 PM

rent an OS?
hell NO!
not ever!
also about the activation method... I rather have a useful KEY...
me personally usually reinstall every OS a few times ... so having to use the "store" online is just another hassle that I don't need.
Long Live Windows 7!
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July 10, 2014 5:44:43 PM

I wouldn't mind renting an OS if the cost over 5 (maybe 6) years came out to the same as purchasing any version of Windows OS, today. That's about how long I'll have had Windows 7 until they finally have a decent OS for me to upgrade to. Microsoft seems to have a history of releasing one bad OS followed by a good one, then that cycle repeats.
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July 10, 2014 5:46:51 PM

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No I am not going to "rent" my OS. I would pay $1 per month max if they went that route otherwise I would start purchasing an apple (yeah I know I said it)


LAWL with apple your paying a extra $300-500 up front when you buy their hardware. It's all just factored in. It's kind of like buying a $7 drink at the movies that has tax, and employee wages. It's just factored in, at least Microsoft is up front at what your paying and what you are getting.
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July 10, 2014 5:56:41 PM

I cannot believe I never noticed before, but MS has pulled off the Coca Cola recipe switch with Windows OS successfully now three times and is on its way to number four. As for the new activation and whatever scheme they come up with for purchase..... HELL NO!
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July 10, 2014 5:59:27 PM

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otherwise I would start purchasing an apple (yeah I know I said it)

Why apple? There's always linux (which is free).
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July 10, 2014 6:10:36 PM

A new activation method? Yay for wasted R&D, I'm sure Windows 9 will be cracked.
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July 10, 2014 7:06:24 PM

Do not want subscription model for Windows OS. Primarily because I think it would raise the standalone OS price, and I quite enjoy being able to buy the OEM Windows OS for only about $100 right now. If they do a subscription model of say, $50 per year, then the OEM pricing would probably start around $150.
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July 10, 2014 7:11:40 PM

I guess those of us on The excellent Island of Windows 7 will be waiting for the Windows 10. Those of you all Vista users who went to Windows 8 and found out what screwing was all over again I'm sure won't be buying into Windows 9 and those on Windows 8 having researched the term "downgrade" have learned from your early middle or late adoption of Windows 8 mistakes too.

That is all of course if Microsoft is still around in the years to come when Windows 10 will in their development cycle. Another OS like Windows 8 or Vista or a silly plan like rentin' your OS but missing a payment locks out all your documents unless you pay a "40 lost key/payment F U reactivation fee" , another design decision like this will kill the company. Then maybe a more competent solftware developer can buy the Windows Brand and actually innovate.

Show us where Office 365 is more valuable than Office 2010 or even Office 2007?
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July 10, 2014 8:01:10 PM

Looks like the new CEO is even more greedier than Balmer. Hope SteamOS will peak up by then. SteamOS for games, and Linux for other stuff.
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July 10, 2014 9:18:35 PM

Wait I am still on 7 and only now barely thinking of 8 as I build another new system. Now 9 is around the corner? Damn - too bad since I would love a new install of 7 over 8. FU Microsoft - I am really starting to hate you guys (and touch sucks for us gamers and our machines).
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July 10, 2014 9:29:14 PM

I'm fine with a subscription model as long as it's reasonably priced. $10 a year would be reasonable to me, even 15.

Their office 365 subscription deal is very good now too, office with 1TB of storage PER user.

I still think they should offer a non subscription copy though to make it easier for some people.

Nothing will change, and this may be good for people who don't want to spend a lot at once for an OS. $10 dollars a year for Windows? - I will spend 5 to 10 dollars on lunch every day, not very economically draining to go subscription.

It really depends on how much it will be per year. A typical Windows OS is around $100 on Amazon, so it could be $25 per year for 4 years, or $20 dollars per year for 5 years. It's all up in the air right now though. I think it would be fantastic for gamers doing system builds, spending 10$ now instead of $100 when you buy a $600-$800 system, or even office PC's. As I said, it's how much they plan to charge. There are pros to this, but people seem to see it as Microsoft doing evil when this can benefit lower class folks who need a copy, and don't want to spend a chunk of change at once.
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July 10, 2014 9:45:46 PM

I can say that Gabe Newell is really a visionary man. Steam that support linux, SteamOS to host all of your Steam games, completed with the news of subscription based Windows. Perfect! Hello you beautiful Ubuntu which I'll dual boot with SteamOS in the coming years.
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July 10, 2014 9:56:39 PM

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Wait I am still on 7 and only now barely thinking of 8 as I build another new system. Now 9 is around the corner? Damn - too bad since I would love a new install of 7 over 8. FU Microsoft - I am really starting to hate you guys (and touch sucks for us gamers and our machines).
That's not true at all touch is great for sex games and love machines! BAZINGA!!!!!!
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July 10, 2014 9:58:45 PM

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I can say that Gabe Newell is really a visionary man. Steam that support linux, SteamOS to host all of your Steam games, completed with the news of subscription based Windows. Perfect! Hello you beautiful Ubuntu which I'll dual boot with SteamOS in the coming years.
I'd rather have Debian variant myself #! CrunchBang #!
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July 10, 2014 11:20:56 PM

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Looks like the new CEO is even more greedier than Balmer. Hope SteamOS will peak up by then. SteamOS for games, and Linux for other stuff.

What will you play the other 80% of your games collection with?
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July 11, 2014 12:18:17 AM

Requiring logging in to the Windows Store to activate means the activation process won't be anonymous anymore. Each Windows 9 machine will have personal information tied to tracked by MS.
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July 11, 2014 12:45:37 AM

I was opposed to subscription models in general, until I saw what was being offered with the Office 365 Home subscription - that won me over (granted, by cutting down the standalone Home edition to just 1 license they made the subscription model appear more appealing). On that basis, I'll wait and watch before I criticize Microsoft - they might pull off an Office 365, or they might botch it like the new Xbox.
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July 11, 2014 12:49:09 AM

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Requiring logging in to the Windows Store to activate means the activation process won't be anonymous anymore. Each Windows 9 machine will have personal information tied to tracked by MS.

Not true, you can log in and get free apps with no personal details required, the only personal details are when you store credit card details for paid apps. But, seeing as I bought my last version of Windows 8 with a credit card anyway, I think they already know who I am. Plus, where is your moral outrage for tracking private individuals when Android broadcasts your location, or the Street View cars slurp your wifi and email, or Gmail scans all your communications to target you with adverts? Perspective, please.
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July 11, 2014 12:53:18 AM

Windows Store requires your Microsoft Account to login, since the dawn of time I have been able to create an anonymous Hotmail/Live/Outlook email account and that serves its purpose. If you a particularly paranoid, wear a big hat and make the account at an internet cafe.
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July 11, 2014 1:39:47 AM

don't think paying a recurring fee will be the only option to obtain Windows 9. I'm sure there will be an option to pay full price, I'm pretty sure the OEM versions of Windows 9 won't work via subscription. Imagine buying a new PC and then paying a recurring cost right after you paid for the damn thing...
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July 11, 2014 2:03:56 AM

Man.... the torrent downloads for Windows 9 will go through the roof
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July 11, 2014 2:41:32 AM

A subscription based OS is a bad idea. An OS you cannot use offline is utter rubbish.
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July 11, 2014 3:34:44 AM

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A subscription based OS is a bad idea. An OS you cannot use offline is utter rubbish.

You can use Office 365 offline, just not send emails or upload/download from Onedrive until you go online again. There is no reason to believe the OS will be any different.
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July 11, 2014 5:43:47 AM

It will be Linux for me if they go subscription.
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July 11, 2014 7:06:36 AM

Just torrent this <mod edit>. I'm not giving you money every year for a "new" OS.

<Mod Note: Watch your language in the forums.>
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July 11, 2014 7:44:21 AM

I have no problem with the detach/attach process so long as you can detach without access to the install, so that if say your hard drive goes or someone seals your computer you can detach that machine from the web or store.
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July 11, 2014 8:34:43 AM

People just blindly hate MS...

Facts:
- Upgrading from Vista to 7 in the first 3 months cost 40$
- Upgrading from 7 to 8 in the first 3 months cost 40$
- An OEM license cost 100$
- MS launches a new OS every 2 years now
- It would be illegal for MS to "kill" your OS if you don't pay your subscribtion in about every country on Earth


What can we assume:
- A subscription would be around 20$ to 30$ a year (40$ upgrade every 2 years = 20$/year)
- Not paying a subscription would deactivate non essential stuff. For example, you wouldn't have access to Windows Update, OneDrive, installing new app from the Windows store, etc.
- There will be a non subscription option (100% sure)


Advantages you could get from subscription:
- Always updated to the latest OS
- Always access to a Windows install disk (not available currently with upgrades at 40$)
- Extra OneDrive space, just like Office 365 does


MS isn't the all Evil corporation people makes it out to be. It does bad things yes, things that drives me crazy sometimes, but it does good ones too. Keep things in perspective, Google and Apple also do things just as bad and just as good.
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July 11, 2014 8:54:18 AM

However much many of you are critical of this, a subscription model for an OS would actually work well for a lot of people - depending on pricing, of course, and MS does screw the pooch on pricing with some of their products. Depending on how they work a subscription model, it could allow for a lot of flexibility for users at a lesser cost overall, or just the flexibility to switch without as much capital invested. Office 365 is actually a pretty damned good deal when all is said and done - a Windows subscription could work out similarly.
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July 11, 2014 8:56:38 AM

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No I am not going to "rent" my OS. I would pay $1 per month max if they went that route otherwise I would start purchasing an apple (yeah I know I said it)


Indeed, as a Mac hater, I'd finally be fed-up enough to make the jump (if forced into a subscription for my OS).
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July 11, 2014 9:06:31 AM

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otherwise I would start purchasing an apple (yeah I know I said it)

Why apple? There's always linux (which is free).


Linux has an unacceptable learning curve for casual computer users.

My experience has shown that casual computer users are unable to do the simplest of tasks, and this is the reason for the success of Microsoft Windows - most anyone can use it.
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July 11, 2014 9:07:33 AM

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Requiring logging in to the Windows Store to activate means the activation process won't be anonymous anymore. Each Windows 9 machine will have personal information tied to tracked by MS.


Which would completely stop me from buying it.

Looks like I'll die with a Windows 7 box in my hand...
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July 11, 2014 9:08:46 AM

All in all this new activation method sounds like an incredibly bad idea.
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July 11, 2014 9:15:25 AM

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However much many of you are critical of this, a subscription model for an OS would actually work well for a lot of people - depending on pricing, of course, and MS does screw the pooch on pricing with some of their products. Depending on how they work a subscription model, it could allow for a lot of flexibility for users at a lesser cost overall, or just the flexibility to switch without as much capital invested. Office 365 is actually a pretty damned good deal when all is said and done - a Windows subscription could work out similarly.

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However much many of you are critical of this, a subscription model for an OS would actually work well for a lot of people - depending on pricing, of course, and MS does screw the pooch on pricing with some of their products. Depending on how they work a subscription model, it could allow for a lot of flexibility for users at a lesser cost overall, or just the flexibility to switch without as much capital invested. Office 365 is actually a pretty damned good deal when all is said and done - a Windows subscription could work out similarly.


I already see how microsoft trying to advertise their shitty OS now
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July 11, 2014 9:16:21 AM

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Windows Store requires your Microsoft Account to login, since the dawn of time I have been able to create an anonymous Hotmail/Live/Outlook email account and that serves its purpose. If you a particularly paranoid, wear a big hat and make the account at an internet cafe.


Why would you assume I would use the Windows Store?
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July 11, 2014 9:18:04 AM

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Requiring logging in to the Windows Store to activate means the activation process won't be anonymous anymore. Each Windows 9 machine will have personal information tied to tracked by MS.


Which would completely stop me from buying it.

Looks like I'll die with a Windows 7 box in my hand...


Yet, you're perfectly fine Apple and Google read thru all your emails, tracks your phone every second of the day and dress a complete profile of you that they sell to third-parties...

Perspective, perspective, perspective...

You can always create an anonymous MS account if you're that paranoid about them.
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July 11, 2014 10:00:16 AM

drwho1 said:
rent an OS?
hell NO!
not ever!
also about the activation method... I rather have a useful KEY...
me personally usually reinstall every OS a few times ... so having to use the "store" online is just another hassle that I don't need.
Long Live Windows 7!


How is this a hassle? You login to your Microsoft account when setting up your system, and it should be activated by just going to the store without going through the hassle of typing out a key; it should also block issues of keys now working too.


ykki said:
Man.... the torrent downloads for Windows 9 will go through the roof


Probably, if it's good though.

The_Trutherizer said:
A subscription based OS is a bad idea. An OS you cannot use offline is utter rubbish.


Who said you cannot use it offline? It's a subscription activated system, and that doesn't mean you cannot use it offline once you activate it. Microsoft not allowing you to use your system when there is no internet would be incredibly foolish.


makaveli316 said:
Just torrent this shit. I'm not giving you money every year for a "new" OS.


How about buying the operating system, and not committing a crime. Also it's not a new "OS" every year, you are just paying in increments instead of one large sum at once.




All this Microsoft hate is getting old. I could understand it if it was Apple, but give it a rest. Complain about the missing start menu, that's fine. They are making good products and services, especially Office 365 with 1TB of storage PER user for only $5 dollars a month. 1TB for 5 dollars a month per user is an irresistible offer with Google drive offering 1TB of storage for 10 dollars without good office software. If you are a student you can get office for 4 years for around $80 too.
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July 11, 2014 10:11:58 AM

You want a good reason to go Mac? $20. $20 is what it cost me to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.8. For all the Macs on my iTunes account, up to 5. And Mavericks was free!
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July 11, 2014 10:56:43 AM

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You want a good reason to go Mac? $20. $20 is what it cost me to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.8. For all the Macs on my iTunes account, up to 5. And Mavericks was free!


$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from WinXP to SP1, SP2, SP3
$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from Vista to SP1, SP2
$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from Win7 to SP1
$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from Win8 to 8.1, 8.1 update 1.

Essentially, all the Mac OS "upgrades" you had to pay for were little more than a service pack for OSX 10.5. And I have used OSX 10.5-10.8, so I know what was "upgraded."

Mac OSX 10.4-10.5 was a significant change. Probably more like upgrading from Vista to 7 in the Windows World.
Mac OS 9 to OSX was the last major OS upgrade from Apple (like going from XP to Vista)
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July 11, 2014 10:59:53 AM

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A subscription based OS is a bad idea. An OS you cannot use offline is utter rubbish.


Actually, subscription based OS is not a new or novel idea. Enterprises and Educational Institutions have used subscription based licensing for years for their OS. Of course, these were not required to be "online" to work, and I am sure if Win9 uses subscription base, it will not require it either. Unless MS releases a version similar to Google Chrome at super cheap or "free."
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July 11, 2014 11:14:54 AM

Subscription Model: Great for Corporations, bad for end users.
if they made Enterprise licensing on subscription models (they're practically at that point anyway, this would just encourage companies to be MORE up to date instead of soldiering on XP or 7 as the cost of entry to new OSs would be drastically lower.
people(mom/pop/grandma/gamer) just wants to pay for something, have it. keep it. not worry about a damn monthly draft on their account. if they establish a model like that. i don't have a problem. i can still go build my PC, throw an OEM license on it and be okay. if i have to MAKE A WINDOWS STORE ACCOUNT and SIGN IN in order to KEEP MY COMPUTER WORKING...f-off, there's other OSes out there, I'll buy a chromebook and convert my PC to linux/SteamOS, or soldier on with 7 & 8.1 til NOTHING will run on them anymore.
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July 11, 2014 11:14:56 AM

sorry doublepost - wish could delete
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July 11, 2014 11:28:26 AM

Microsoft has always been about licensing. What is new about this? This has been going on since Windows 95 came out. Get used to it.

They will have options for activating Windows offline for their corporate and government customers. Same will be for end users.
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July 11, 2014 11:37:38 AM

eriko said:
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otherwise I would start purchasing an apple (yeah I know I said it)

Why apple? There's always linux (which is free).


Linux has an unacceptable learning curve for casual computer users.

My experience has shown that casual computer users are unable to do the simplest of tasks, and this is the reason for the success of Microsoft Windows - most anyone can use it.


This learning curve is becoming less and less every year. I've seen computer casuals and illiterate people go from Windows to the Mageia and Mint Distros without problems. You just have to choose distros that are more user friendly, although in Mageia's case it's very bloated with useless software, but still has a look very similar to Win 7. The only thing they have to remember is that they won't have access to all the same programs as Windows.
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July 11, 2014 11:58:54 AM

jardows said:
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You want a good reason to go Mac? $20. $20 is what it cost me to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.8. For all the Macs on my iTunes account, up to 5. And Mavericks was free!


$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from WinXP to SP1, SP2, SP3
$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from Vista to SP1, SP2
$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from Win7 to SP1
$0.00 is what it cost me to upgrade from Win8 to 8.1, 8.1 update 1.

Essentially, all the Mac OS "upgrades" you had to pay for were little more than a service pack for OSX 10.5. And I have used OSX 10.5-10.8, so I know what was "upgraded."

Mac OSX 10.4-10.5 was a significant change. Probably more like upgrading from Vista to 7 in the Windows World.
Mac OS 9 to OSX was the last major OS upgrade from Apple (like going from XP to Vista)


And Windows upgrades between XP, 7 and 8 have mainly been, if you'll excuse the pun, window dressing. It is still the NT kernel, which is the OS that stranded an Aegis cruiser at sea, making it nonoperational for 3 days.

Still the fact remains, that I can upgrade *all* my macs, up to 5 of them for one low price of $20, while every time thre is a new Windows it costs 5 to 7 times that for *each computer you need to upgrade*. And, have you noticed the ever shrinking amount of time between new Windows releases?

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July 11, 2014 12:12:38 PM

Whelp good thing Windows 7 is heading for the same reign that Windows XP is/was.
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July 11, 2014 12:31:02 PM

So what happens when there store is down? Should they talk to ubisoft about that? Or if you have any software installed that they don't like and decide to revoke your license.
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