Verizon Wireless Throttling Unlimited 4G Data Hogs
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exfileme
July 28, 2014 1:23:59 PM
Verizon is enforcing its Network Optimization policy on "unlimited" 4G LTE customers.
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July 28, 2014 1:45:47 PM
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July 28, 2014 1:59:47 PM
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Steve Simons
July 28, 2014 2:36:28 PM
agentbb007
July 28, 2014 2:48:52 PM
razor512
July 28, 2014 3:13:02 PM
jdog2pt0
July 28, 2014 6:08:00 PM
I'm one of the few still holding on to my unlimited. This is just another way to make more money, plain and simple. Rather than invest into their network, they'd rather cut your service, charge you more, and make it seem like they're doing you a favor. It's absolutely ridiculous that we're letting the service providers get away with this. It's not just the phone providers either, comcast and the likes putting datacaps in place. What a joke.
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jonathan1683
July 28, 2014 6:31:33 PM
itchyisvegeta
July 28, 2014 11:59:44 PM
ryguystye
July 29, 2014 12:02:51 AM
thundervore
July 29, 2014 1:47:41 AM
Wow, its like these cellphone carriers are competing to see who could piss off their customers the fastest just to see who would remain loyal.
First they make us pay for data on a smartphone even if we do not use their data. (free WIFI at work, your own WIFI at home and if your a Cable subscriber there are free WIFI hotspots throughout the cities.)
Now they want to throttle those with unlimited data?
How about fair data rates!!! Why is it a company can charge $30 for a 3GB monthly data plan but at the same time charge $20 for 300MB a month data plan. If you convert the numbers, its 3072MB for $30 or 300MB for $20. An extra $10 should not give you 2772MB of extra data!!!
First they make us pay for data on a smartphone even if we do not use their data. (free WIFI at work, your own WIFI at home and if your a Cable subscriber there are free WIFI hotspots throughout the cities.)
Now they want to throttle those with unlimited data?
How about fair data rates!!! Why is it a company can charge $30 for a 3GB monthly data plan but at the same time charge $20 for 300MB a month data plan. If you convert the numbers, its 3072MB for $30 or 300MB for $20. An extra $10 should not give you 2772MB of extra data!!!
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qlum
July 29, 2014 2:56:39 AM
If I had a unlimited data plan I would probably use it a lot, I would download all kinds of stuff, I would stream. However since my plan is only 500mb I just use it for browsing and chatting. Which really is plenty especially if you go from wifi to wifi. Because of my low data usage I only pay € 8 a month on sim only which really is not that bad.
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rpmrush
July 29, 2014 5:06:07 AM
maxiim
July 29, 2014 5:58:41 AM
Doug Lord
July 29, 2014 7:01:27 AM
td854
July 29, 2014 10:14:27 AM
I pull 12-16GB monthly on my Galaxy Note 3 on legacy unlimited plan. I'm in IT and pull data from numerous medical company FTPs as well as our own FTP in addition to carrying around periodic copies of our own FTP. Most of the offices I go to have internet speed that is significantly slower than my phone (5-7mbps average versus 40-75mbps on my phone) and it's faster to pull the data through there, copy it to a flash drive via OTG cable and plug it in.
I have a seperate business iPhone and I don't use it for anything but calls because we have 12 users on a 10GB limit which is the highest they will go for us.
I have a seperate business iPhone and I don't use it for anything but calls because we have 12 users on a 10GB limit which is the highest they will go for us.
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bildo123
July 29, 2014 11:25:31 AM
"Heavy traffic". How the heck can anyone load up a tower to the point of needing to throttle when you can hit your whopping, overpriced, $40, 4GB monthly data cap in less than an hour at 4G LTE speeds? The whole data-cap/throttling is non-sense to squeeze out overpriced underwhelming data packages. Sorry kids, we used up all the Internet today.
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vipboy28
July 29, 2014 12:10:00 PM
How is this not illegal? Its bias, discriminatory and unjust. Verizon is literally discriminating against unlimited data users. SUPER ILLEGAL!
Verizon is claiming that they don't have to wire NJ with a Fiber solution because their Wireless network is an alternative to DSL and Cable. How can they justify any of the following statements. A teired data plan with a THROTTLE CAP to replace a cable or dsl installment??
This should be a Class action lawsuit. This is just another ploy by verizon to dupe customers and get the upper hand. They make RECORD Profits year after year and we are talking like 30+Billion a year in profits.
Yet they dont upgrade their networks, takes them half a year and makes netflix pay for hardware into their servers. Its like how, HOW is this company still around with all the SHADY business practices and deception! Let me guess, too big to fail, right?
Verizon is claiming that they don't have to wire NJ with a Fiber solution because their Wireless network is an alternative to DSL and Cable. How can they justify any of the following statements. A teired data plan with a THROTTLE CAP to replace a cable or dsl installment??
This should be a Class action lawsuit. This is just another ploy by verizon to dupe customers and get the upper hand. They make RECORD Profits year after year and we are talking like 30+Billion a year in profits.
Yet they dont upgrade their networks, takes them half a year and makes netflix pay for hardware into their servers. Its like how, HOW is this company still around with all the SHADY business practices and deception! Let me guess, too big to fail, right?
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zfreak280
July 29, 2014 3:14:13 PM
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I'm one of the few still holding on to my unlimited. This is just another way to make more money, plain and simple. Rather than invest into their network, they'd rather cut your service, charge you more, and make it seem like they're doing you a favor. It's absolutely ridiculous that we're letting the service providers get away with this. It's not just the phone providers either, comcast and the likes putting datacaps in place. What a joke.Why would they invest in their infrastructure when the infrastructure is more than sufficient if data hogs are throttled? You do realize that data is not free and network towers do not grow on trees. Every byte of data uses a quantifiable amount of energy and energy cost money. So are you saying they should just continue to give people more bandwidth and lose money?
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zfreak280
July 29, 2014 3:18:10 PM
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just wait for net neutrality to go away, it's funny that the 5% is what bring their network to its knees and they just happen to be the ones not paying enough. I bet you can pay for 1Tb of bandwith no problems so long you are paying.Net neutrality and throttling bandwidth hogs are two unrelated topics.
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zfreak280
July 29, 2014 3:41:22 PM
Quotes and responses for all!
Why are you jogging and watching movies at the same time? If it is a visual pleasure problem, then please consider jogging outside.
First they make us pay for data on a smartphone even if we do not use their data. (free WIFI at work, your own WIFI at home and if your a Cable subscriber there are free WIFI hotspots throughout the cities.)
Now they want to throttle those with unlimited data?
How about fair data rates!!! Why is it a company can charge $30 for a 3GB monthly data plan but at the same time charge $20 for 300MB a month data plan. If you convert the numbers, its 3072MB for $30 or 300MB for $20. An extra $10 should not give you 2772MB of extra data!!!
I do not see a problem with charging per gigabyte. As I said earlier, data uses a quantifiable amount of energy and energy cost money. Do you think paying per kW/h at your home is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of gas for your car is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of water you use at home is unfair? Why should bandwidth be any different? It uses energy, so you should pay per unit of energy used.
I do agree that their data rate prices are ridiculous. However, have you ever considered that their prices are ridiculous because you are footing the bill for high bandwidth users?
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I go through 8 GB in a month easilly, just from Pandora, Netflix, and Hulu when I am jogging and/or at the gym. Why are you jogging and watching movies at the same time? If it is a visual pleasure problem, then please consider jogging outside.
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Wow, its like these cellphone carriers are competing to see who could piss off their customers the fastest just to see who would remain loyal.First they make us pay for data on a smartphone even if we do not use their data. (free WIFI at work, your own WIFI at home and if your a Cable subscriber there are free WIFI hotspots throughout the cities.)
Now they want to throttle those with unlimited data?
How about fair data rates!!! Why is it a company can charge $30 for a 3GB monthly data plan but at the same time charge $20 for 300MB a month data plan. If you convert the numbers, its 3072MB for $30 or 300MB for $20. An extra $10 should not give you 2772MB of extra data!!!
I do not see a problem with charging per gigabyte. As I said earlier, data uses a quantifiable amount of energy and energy cost money. Do you think paying per kW/h at your home is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of gas for your car is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of water you use at home is unfair? Why should bandwidth be any different? It uses energy, so you should pay per unit of energy used.
I do agree that their data rate prices are ridiculous. However, have you ever considered that their prices are ridiculous because you are footing the bill for high bandwidth users?
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10tacle
July 29, 2014 4:47:39 PM
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They make RECORD Profits year after year and we are talking like 30+Billion a year in profits.Some people feel entitled to everything. Why not start your own telecom business if you don't like how much another company makes, then give all your profits away,.
I've never heard so much entitlement complaining in recent years over the telecom industry and what THEY choose to provide YOU. People who are whining about throttle caps and getting charged too much for data use on THEIR network probably need to unplug from virtual society more and get out and enjoy the real world like they used to BEFORE this tech existed.
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egill
July 29, 2014 5:58:01 PM
Lets not pretend that the telecom industry is in any way a representation of a free market. It is a market full of collusion and useless regulations to prevent any real competition. From what I can see, the telecom industry is very much like the insurance industry; only allow customers who never use the service to pay in for "service".
Anecdotally, most people never use more than 500 MB a month. Being in the top 5% is hardly a challenge for anyone who legitimately uses the service they pay for. With that said, I think people who use 5-10 GB of data would feel less outraged if the market as a whole had a fair price structure, but it doesn't, so forget about believing terms like "data-hog" are illegitimate or thinking that we should be paying more. Rather, the people who only use a measly 500 MB a month should be outraged they pay the prices they do!
Anecdotally, most people never use more than 500 MB a month. Being in the top 5% is hardly a challenge for anyone who legitimately uses the service they pay for. With that said, I think people who use 5-10 GB of data would feel less outraged if the market as a whole had a fair price structure, but it doesn't, so forget about believing terms like "data-hog" are illegitimate or thinking that we should be paying more. Rather, the people who only use a measly 500 MB a month should be outraged they pay the prices they do!
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superman21
July 30, 2014 6:08:57 AM
agentbb007
July 30, 2014 10:01:58 AM
YAY throttle those bandwidth hogs! You think Verizon cares about the 5% data hogs, NOPE and I don't care about them either. Make way for customers like me who actually pay for what we use.
This is similar to an issue we had with water here. You used to have unlimited supply of water for your lawn and didn't have to pay for how much you used. I would see people leave their hoses on just running water down the gutter. I would see people running their sprinklers in the middle of 90 degree weather, it was just ridiculous and no one cared how much water they used because they didn't pay for it.
Well things changed and they started charging for how much water you used and it was amazing how people would conserve. Yards stopped looking like rain forests and actually started looking more like the desert we live in...
This is similar to an issue we had with water here. You used to have unlimited supply of water for your lawn and didn't have to pay for how much you used. I would see people leave their hoses on just running water down the gutter. I would see people running their sprinklers in the middle of 90 degree weather, it was just ridiculous and no one cared how much water they used because they didn't pay for it.
Well things changed and they started charging for how much water you used and it was amazing how people would conserve. Yards stopped looking like rain forests and actually started looking more like the desert we live in...
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thundervore
July 30, 2014 12:23:52 PM
zfreak280 said:
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Wow, its like these cellphone carriers are competing to see who could piss off their customers the fastest just to see who would remain loyal.First they make us pay for data on a smartphone even if we do not use their data. (free WIFI at work, your own WIFI at home and if your a Cable subscriber there are free WIFI hotspots throughout the cities.)
Now they want to throttle those with unlimited data?
How about fair data rates!!! Why is it a company can charge $30 for a 3GB monthly data plan but at the same time charge $20 for 300MB a month data plan. If you convert the numbers, its 3072MB for $30 or 300MB for $20. An extra $10 should not give you 2772MB of extra data!!!
I do not see a problem with charging per gigabyte. As I said earlier, data uses a quantifiable amount of energy and energy cost money. Do you think paying per kW/h at your home is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of gas for your car is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of water you use at home is unfair? Why should bandwidth be any different? It uses energy, so you should pay per unit of energy used.
I do agree that their data rate prices are ridiculous. However, have you ever considered that their prices are ridiculous because you are footing the bill for high bandwidth users?
The difference is that electricity, gas, and water is all based on usage and not a fixed price. It is metered rates and customers pay depending on how much they use. The person who refuses to fix their leaking toilet and lets it runs all night will have a higher water bill that the person who invokes the rule of "we only flush when we poop". Same with gas, the person who must have that V6 that only takes premium gas will spend more at the pump to go the same distance as a fuel saving car like a hybrid. Electricity also, the person that leaves their lights on when no one is home or choose to have leave the TV on while they sleep will have a higher energy bill than the person that installs timers on the outlets.
But with data, its a fixed rate weather customers use all their bandwidth or not. Right now I am forced to pay $20 a month for 300MB just because I use a smart phone, and I do not use any of it because I have WIFI in the office at work, WIFI at home and hotspots throughout the city from my cable company. The only time I do not have data is when I am on the subway where I cannot get reception. Honestly, when I look at my usage details in my phone I use about 5GB a month and this is all pure WIFI, none of it is mobile data that goes through my carrier. Customers like me should not have to bear the burden for the person who decides to stream Netflix at the gym while they are on the treadmill when they could have saved their show/movie locally and watch it, or want to jog outside with Pandora when they could have purchased the songs they want to listen to instead of streaming.
What is needed is a $/ per GB cost in effect, this way heavy customers will pay their fair share if they hog the bandwidth and customers who do not use that much pay less.
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vipboy28
July 31, 2014 10:24:22 AM
I have never seen people so ignorant on here in my entire life. 10tacle im not sure how you got entitlement out of that but you sir are very blinded. First, when you sign with Verizon and pay money for a service, your expected to get that service. For a company to then apply restrictions and alter agreements is illegal and extremely unprofessional. Teleco companies do very very very good year after year with ROI's and their actual cash in hand profit, they need to upgrade infrastructure and keep up with demand. instead of doing this, they choose to pillage people for more money. I am talking to a lawyer to see if we can sue them. Its completely unfair. You dont get that, 1 HD video on your smart phone can put you over your monthly allotment.
With that said, people shouldn't be using torrents or downloading massive files in the 100's of gigabytes. That said the top 5% of people dont use as little as 4.7gbs a month, people who do anything other than facebook scroll and check emails use under that amount. Those of us who actually use a smartphone like how its suppose to be used, GPS, web, occasional video watching, music use around 4-6 gigs. So if the masses use between 4-6gigs and verizons cut off is 4.7gb. They not only throttle 98% of their network but they get away with the BEST scheme ever.
So entitlement has nothing to do with me paying for a service, not getting the complete service and then getting restricted access to said service. Open your eyes.
FYI, I would open up my own wireless network, however Verizon would probably sue me and tie me up in court for years. This is the type of company we are dealing with. Sorry, I cant rob the state of NJ with Tax breaks and utility breaks like Verizon did.
With that said, people shouldn't be using torrents or downloading massive files in the 100's of gigabytes. That said the top 5% of people dont use as little as 4.7gbs a month, people who do anything other than facebook scroll and check emails use under that amount. Those of us who actually use a smartphone like how its suppose to be used, GPS, web, occasional video watching, music use around 4-6 gigs. So if the masses use between 4-6gigs and verizons cut off is 4.7gb. They not only throttle 98% of their network but they get away with the BEST scheme ever.
So entitlement has nothing to do with me paying for a service, not getting the complete service and then getting restricted access to said service. Open your eyes.
FYI, I would open up my own wireless network, however Verizon would probably sue me and tie me up in court for years. This is the type of company we are dealing with. Sorry, I cant rob the state of NJ with Tax breaks and utility breaks like Verizon did.
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vipboy28
July 31, 2014 10:29:14 AM
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zfreak280 said:
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Wow, its like these cellphone carriers are competing to see who could piss off their customers the fastest just to see who would remain loyal.First they make us pay for data on a smartphone even if we do not use their data. (free WIFI at work, your own WIFI at home and if your a Cable subscriber there are free WIFI hotspots throughout the cities.)
Now they want to throttle those with unlimited data?
How about fair data rates!!! Why is it a company can charge $30 for a 3GB monthly data plan but at the same time charge $20 for 300MB a month data plan. If you convert the numbers, its 3072MB for $30 or 300MB for $20. An extra $10 should not give you 2772MB of extra data!!!
I do not see a problem with charging per gigabyte. As I said earlier, data uses a quantifiable amount of energy and energy cost money. Do you think paying per kW/h at your home is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of gas for your car is unfair? Do you think paying per gallon of water you use at home is unfair? Why should bandwidth be any different? It uses energy, so you should pay per unit of energy used.
I do agree that their data rate prices are ridiculous. However, have you ever considered that their prices are ridiculous because you are footing the bill for high bandwidth users?
The difference is that electricity, gas, and water is all based on usage and not a fixed price. It is metered rates and customers pay depending on how much they use. The person who refuses to fix their leaking toilet and lets it runs all night will have a higher water bill that the person who invokes the rule of "we only flush when we poop". Same with gas, the person who must have that V6 that only takes premium gas will spend more at the pump to go the same distance as a fuel saving car like a hybrid. Electricity also, the person that leaves their lights on when no one is home or choose to have leave the TV on while they sleep will have a higher energy bill than the person that installs timers on the outlets.
But with data, its a fixed rate weather customers use all their bandwidth or not. Right now I am forced to pay $20 a month for 300MB just because I use a smart phone, and I do not use any of it because I have WIFI in the office at work, WIFI at home and hotspots throughout the city from my cable company. The only time I do not have data is when I am on the subway where I cannot get reception. Honestly, when I look at my usage details in my phone I use about 5GB a month and this is all pure WIFI, none of it is mobile data that goes through my carrier. Customers like me should not have to bear the burden for the person who decides to stream Netflix at the gym while they are on the treadmill when they could have saved their show/movie locally and watch it, or want to jog outside with Pandora when they could have purchased the songs they want to listen to instead of streaming.
What is needed is a $/ per GB cost in effect, this way heavy customers will pay their fair share if they hog the bandwidth and customers who do not use that much pay less.
I 100% aggree with this! However if they did this pay per g/b the company wouldn't have record profits year after year.
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FrodoSwaggins
July 31, 2014 10:33:03 AM
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I'm one of the few still holding on to my unlimited. This is just another way to make more money, plain and simple. Rather than invest into their network, they'd rather cut your service, charge you more, and make it seem like they're doing you a favor. It's absolutely ridiculous that we're letting the service providers get away with this. It's not just the phone providers either, comcast and the likes putting datacaps in place. What a joke.Why would they invest in their infrastructure when the infrastructure is more than sufficient if data hogs are throttled? You do realize that data is not free and network towers do not grow on trees. Every byte of data uses a quantifiable amount of energy and energy cost money. So are you saying they should just continue to give people more bandwidth and lose money?
Lose money? They are already offering terrible services for huge amounts of money. If anything, they are making more money.
I can't understand how could someone not want internet providers to offer better services, and faster speeds with such a dumb excuse. I can't wait for the day that Google Fiber finally spreads all over the country, making lousy companies like Comcast and TWC offer better and cheaper services. They have the money to improve the infrastructure, they just prefer to not do that and instead they take advantage of their customers. And what can we do? NOTHING because in most places you are only given the option to choose between 2 ISPs, and both are usually terrible. And with Internet being a necessity rather than a luxury, you must put up with this.
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I have already spent to much time removing insults, cusswords, and references to obvious violations of the law from this thread.
A brief reminder of the forum rules, available in a sticky post at the top of any subforum (like http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2083498/read-forum... ) is needed.
Please don't • Be rude or impolite. Civility is essential on Tom's, and remember that behind each user is a real person. Personal attacks (ad hominem) and insults are not allowed.
I'm aware that there are many different opinions on data throttling. I happen to have three different opinions myself, one based on what I want, one based basic economics, and one based on my understanding of current regulation. Let's discuss them with tolerance for each other from now on, please.
I have already spent to much time removing insults, cusswords, and references to obvious violations of the law from this thread.
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alidan
August 2, 2014 1:52:26 AM
this month alone, on my land line, i have used 489,498.15 MB
granted this has been a very slow month for me, usually i'm up around 2tb and one months when recovering from a hdd failure i was around 10tb.
and people want to push for 4k video hard... yea... once the internet is out of the hands of people who want to throttle.
granted this has been a very slow month for me, usually i'm up around 2tb and one months when recovering from a hdd failure i was around 10tb.
and people want to push for 4k video hard... yea... once the internet is out of the hands of people who want to throttle.
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