Non-TIVO DVR

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I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.

Thanks!
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  1. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote in message
    news:1118086710.980441.249820@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    > or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    > monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    > included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.

    Um, what specific capabilities do you like then?

    Ed
    84HurstOlds@nowherenow.com
  2. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    "machinehead" <zzz@zzz.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote in message
    > news:1118086710.980441.249820@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >> I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    >> or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    >> monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    >> included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >
    > Um, what specific capabilities do you like then?
    >

    WTF does it matter to you?
    I'm sure you're just waiting for the chance to recommend a vcr.
  3. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    u72947389283 wrote:
    > I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    > or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    > monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    > included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >
    > Thanks!

    Can't you buy tv tuner cards for the PC that will do this sort of
    thing? They might be as much as 60-80 $ though. How about an
    inexpensive VCR? Those can be had for 30-40 $.
  4. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote in news:1118086710.980441.249820
    @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    > I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    > or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    > monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    > included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.

    Let us know when you're caught up on the messages here.

    Heck, don't even have to read them all, just the past week's worth will
    answer your question several times over.

    As, for that matter, a google search would...which one must assume you are
    familiar with since you posted from google groups.

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  5. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    On 6 Jun 2005 20:04:46 GMT, Howard <stile99@email.com> wrote:

    >"u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote in news:1118086710.980441.249820
    >@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
    >
    >> I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    >> or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    >> monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    >> included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >
    >Let us know when you're caught up on the messages here.
    >
    >Heck, don't even have to read them all, just the past week's worth will
    >answer your question several times over.
    >
    >As, for that matter, a google search would...which one must assume you are
    >familiar with since you posted from google groups.

    In other words, a quick look at this group would have shown you that
    any post that calls into question the wisdom of paying through the
    nose month after month for a TIVO subscription, like these bozos do,
    is only an invitation for flames. So put on your asbestos suit.
  6. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    > In other words, a quick look at this group would have shown you that
    > any post that calls into question the wisdom of paying through the
    > nose month after month for a TIVO subscription, like these bozos do,
    > is only an invitation for flames. So put on your asbestos suit.

    Wow, another Sean!? or wait, could he be the same person? Who else
    hangs out in a group that supports a product he doesn't like and posts
    into virtually every thread?

    I would suggest to the OP that a Tivo group is probably not the best
    place to investigate non-tivo DVRs. However, there are plenty out
    there, as someone else noted, just use google, or cruise into your local
    Circuit City or BestBuy. You shouldn't have any trouble finding one.
    You won't find a lot of recommendations about them here, the vast
    majority of posters like the value added service provided by Tivo and
    don't use non-Tivo boxes. I do know that a few posters use some for
    archiving (though that use has dropped since Tivo-to-go was released).

    Randy S.
  7. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    On 2005-06-06, Zardoz <dawiz@oz.com> wrote:
    >
    > "machinehead" <zzz@zzz.com> wrote in message
    > news:c1524$42a4b1bf$d1cc767a$32087@snip.allthenewsgroups.com...
    >>
    >> "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1118086710.980441.249820@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >>> I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    >>> or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    >>> monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    >>> included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >>
    >> Um, what specific capabilities do you like then?
    >>
    >
    > WTF does it matter to you?

    I believe it's the most important question one could ask in order to give
    the OP the best advice possible.

    > I'm sure you're just waiting for the chance to recommend a vcr.

    Well, that might be the best alternative out there, depending on what the
    OP values. More input is really needed though.

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  8. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote in message
    news:1118086710.980441.249820@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    > or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    > monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    > included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.

    Some TiVo units come with TiVo Basic which requires no purchase of
    subscription. You then have the option of purchasing the subscription for
    the more advanced features.

    One non-TiVo recorder I know a lot of people are saying good things about is
    the Liteon DVD recorder. Also a few days ago it was posted, I forget who,
    about a DVD recorder under $100.

    I think RCA makes a hard drive based non-TiVo recorder, but I don't know
    much about it other than it exists.
  9. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:38:31 -0700, u72947389283 wrote:

    > I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    > or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    > monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    > included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >
    There's probably at least 10 different models. Walmart even has one. I've
    got an RCA. My brother has a panasonic he likes. There's models with Tivo
    basic if you have a land line, etc.etc.

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    Special <spec@spec.org> wrote in news:45e9a11qkdk62ppccuv107k94qkvsngaru@
    4ax.com:

    > In other words, a quick look at this group would have shown you that
    > any post that calls into question the wisdom of paying through the
    > nose month after month for a TIVO subscription, like these bozos do,
    > is only an invitation for flames. So put on your asbestos suit.

    Your claims to not be a troll get thinner and thinner.

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  11. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    On 6 Jun 2005 22:13:46 GMT, Howard <stile99@email..com> wrote:

    >Special <spec@spec.org> wrote in news:45e9a11qkdk62ppccuv107k94qkvsngaru@
    >4ax.com:
    >
    >> In other words, a quick look at this group would have shown you that
    >> any post that calls into question the wisdom of paying through the
    >> nose month after month for a TIVO subscription, like these bozos do,
    >> is only an invitation for flames. So put on your asbestos suit.
    >
    >Your claims to not be a troll get thinner and thinner.

    Now I'm a troll. I wasn't in the other thread. In fact, now I am a
    meta troll because I am trolling the resident trolls of this ng.
  12. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote in message
    news:1118086710.980441.249820@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    > or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    > monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    > included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    Best bet is a series one Tivo. I have two Phillips myself hacked for much
    more storage and file transfer. They have been very reliable. Plus if you
    like hacking stuff, you won't find much that's better. They can be found on
    ebay for less than $100.
    You may even want to try the full service just to see if you like it or not.
    Any one you activate past the first one is just $7, so the more you have,
    the more reasonable the service becomes.
    When I bought my first one 5 years ago, I had issues with the cost as well.
    Didn't activate my first one till I bought an SD-H400 (with Tivo Basic) and
    had to for the $100 rebate, and now I have 3 series 2's with full service
    and 2 series 1's without.
    So even if you don't activate your series 1, it will make a great, cheap
    dvr.
  13. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    On 6 Jun 2005 12:38:31 -0700, "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote:

    >I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    >or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    >monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    >included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >
    >Thanks!


    Your cable co will give you one for free. It does cost about $10
    per month tho.

    Sean
  14. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    In article <tscua15dfusa76uib5lp24q59lqgscnfoc@4ax.com>, Sean <none> wrote:
    >On 6 Jun 2005 12:38:31 -0700, "u72947389283" <vis1@palicka.com> wrote:
    >
    >>I like the Tivo capabilities, but I don't want to pay the monthly fee
    >>or the large upfront fee. Does anyone make a non-Tivo DVR without the
    >>monthly fee? It's no important to me to have the programming schedule
    >>included. I can tell it which channel and time to record.
    >>
    >>Thanks!
    >
    >
    >Your cable co will give you one for free. It does cost about $10
    >per month tho.
    >
    >Sean
    Then it is NOT free.
  15. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:46:39 +0000, Lee Florack wrote:

    > Not really. It's really incomprehensible that someone who doesn't
    > like the product would send so much time here. I like Acura's so
    > I participate in that newsgroup. I don't like Mercedes as much
    > so I don't participate in that group and I certainly don't spend
    > ANY time telling Mercedes owners how stupid they all are.

    But you don't own a Mercedes. If you did you would probably participate in
    the group. I assume Sean owns a Tivo, and like me, doesn't like some of
    the feaures, or lack of features, or the Tivo subscription policy.

    And yes, I own a Tivo. It's a series 1 that doesn't require a sub. It
    works fine but there's still lots of things I don't like about it. I also
    own an RCA PVR. It also works well, but there's things about it I like and
    don't like. Today, with all the altenatives, I wouldn't buy a Tivo. I also
    wouldn't buy the same model of RCA, but I would buy a newer model.

    There's one thing that is certain though. There are lots of bias people in
    this group that has the attitude that Tivo can do no wrong and is the
    greatest thing since sliced bread. maybe so, til you get hungry.

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    > But you don't own a Mercedes. If you did you would probably participate in
    > the group. I assume Sean owns a Tivo, and like me, doesn't like some of
    > the feaures, or lack of features, or the Tivo subscription policy.

    No, the difference is you seem to be willing to consider pros and cons.
    There's no problem with disagreeing or subjectively considering one
    product over another, I think you'll find that this group encourages,
    not discourages that. What is *discouraged* is blind criticism of
    nearly every thread, and telling everyone that they are idiots for
    paying for a product they prefer. There's a difference, and certain
    posters are definitely in the latter area.

    > And yes, I own a Tivo. It's a series 1 that doesn't require a sub. It
    > works fine but there's still lots of things I don't like about it. I also
    > own an RCA PVR. It also works well, but there's things about it I like and
    > don't like. Today, with all the altenatives, I wouldn't buy a Tivo. I also
    > wouldn't buy the same model of RCA, but I would buy a newer model.

    Well, that's great. You have reached a legitimate opinion, even though
    many folks on this group may disagree with. That doesn't make you
    wrong, and nobody should do anything but respectfully disagree with you
    (or agree, as the case may be). In the long run I would expect that
    you'd replace your Series 1 with something you clearly like better, and
    then probably lose interest in this group since it doesn't really
    address your interests. Unless you had some sort of personal ax to
    grind, or you like to flamebait.

    > There's one thing that is certain though. There are lots of bias people in
    > this group that has the attitude that Tivo can do no wrong and is the
    > greatest thing since sliced bread. maybe so, til you get hungry.

    I would have to heartily disagree with you. Honest debate is encouraged
    here, it's what makes it interesting. It's presenting a point or
    argument without using logic or facts that's disliked.

    I think we can agree that the facts are that many non-Tivo DVR's have
    superior hardware features compared to the current SA Tivos. I think we
    can also agree that *most* people think the Tivo software is far better
    than the non-Tivo DVR's (despite what 1 poster may continuously assert).
    Which is more important? That's subjective and up to the end-user.
    But it's certainly open for debate!

    Randy S.
  17. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:43:59 GMT, Wes Newell
    <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:

    >On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:46:39 +0000, Lee Florack wrote:
    >
    >> Not really. It's really incomprehensible that someone who doesn't
    >> like the product would send so much time here. I like Acura's so
    >> I participate in that newsgroup. I don't like Mercedes as much
    >> so I don't participate in that group and I certainly don't spend
    >> ANY time telling Mercedes owners how stupid they all are.
    >
    >But you don't own a Mercedes. If you did you would probably participate in
    >the group. I assume Sean owns a Tivo, and like me, doesn't like some of
    >the feaures, or lack of features, or the Tivo subscription policy.
    >
    >And yes, I own a Tivo. It's a series 1 that doesn't require a sub. It
    >works fine but there's still lots of things I don't like about it. I also
    >own an RCA PVR. It also works well, but there's things about it I like and
    >don't like. Today, with all the altenatives, I wouldn't buy a Tivo. I also
    >wouldn't buy the same model of RCA, but I would buy a newer model.

    I'm sure that your presentation -- although possibly in
    disagreement with some who are Tivo fans -- would be a reasonable
    one. It wouldn't be intentionally inflammatory as some seem to
    be. My beef isn't with disagreeing opinions, it's with those who
    seem to have noting good to say about Tivo AND more importantly,
    seem to delight in insulting anyone who does like them.
    >There's one thing that is certain though. There are lots of bias people in
    >this group that has the attitude that Tivo can do no wrong and is the
    >greatest thing since sliced bread. maybe so, til you get hungry.
  18. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    Previous replies removed the attribution so we don't really know
    who wrote:
    >>>> In other words, a quick look at this group would have shown you that
    >>>> any post that calls into question the wisdom of paying through the
    >>>> nose month after month for a TIVO subscription, like these bozos do,

    What you seem to be missing is that many of us are not paying ANYTHING
    continuously for our Tivo subscription.

    If given the choice, I would always pay a one-time fee rather than a
    continuing fee.

    Even with the $6.95 multiple Tivo discount price, I am almost positive I
    would pay the lifetime price. It has already paid for itself long ago when
    compared to the monthly fee. (I paid lifetime on my first Tivo. The news
    that the lifetime fee was going to go up was what got me to get my butt in
    gear several years ago to actually get a Tivo, but I actually ended up
    getting it after the price had gone up. The 2nd Tivo also has lifetime,
    but I lucked out on ebay. I purposely bought a broken one on eBay since it
    sounded like a bad hard drive. I intended to use it without a subscription,
    but it ended up having lifetime. In the future, I wouldn't buy a Tivo
    to use without subscription and would buy something else if it fit my
    needs better -- which is why I also have a non-Tivo hard drive/DVD recorder,
    since I can edit recordings on it, and can't on the Tivo/DVD recorders..
    But if I _could_ edit on them, I would've paid for the far better Tivo UI.)

    Since you can't get lifetime on DirecTV Tivos anymore, I'd obviously pay the
    monthly fee there.. but when given a choice, I try not to go monthly.
    --
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  19. Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

    In article <d9qahl$75e$1@vax.hanford.org>, <mattack@gmail.com> wrote:
    >What you seem to be missing is that many of us are not paying ANYTHING
    >continuously for our Tivo subscription.

    Also, I forgot to say one thing.. though not directly related, I have
    thought about upgrading to S2s via the "get refurb 40 hour for free
    for price of lifetime subscription". I guess I should check ebay prices to
    see if s1s still go for around their original hardware price. Even though
    my Tivos are right next to each other, sometimes I've wanted to move shows
    from one to the other for space reasons (even on my expanded tivos, sometimes
    I watch much more on one than the other). I'd be much more inclined to
    if cooperative scheduling ever comes out.
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