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August 15, 2014 6:40:55 PM

This will be my first computer build, so some help check everything to make sure its good and compatible would be appreciated. I'm adding a couple HDDs I have from an old computer aswell.
I don't really have a budget, just want a fairly high end machine at a reasonable price.
I will use it for Autodesk inventor and editing video occasionally, but mostly just for surfing the web.I'm upgrading because my laptop is about 7 years old now.
Thanks,
Mike
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Combo or $364.98
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM (Newegg Canada Override) $125.62
Motherboard Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Combo or $163.98
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 (NCIX Override) $214.68
Storage Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" SSD $254.57
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II (NCIX Override) $316.38
Case Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower $90.38
Power Supply Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V (Newegg Canada Override) $139.92
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.75
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $178.29
Monitor Acer UM.VV6AA.C01 23.0" $142.00
Acer UM.VV6AA.C01 23.0" $142.00

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August 15, 2014 7:24:16 PM

MIke, get the Intel Core i5-4690 add the K-model if you wish to overclock. If no overclocking in your future, drop from the Z-chipset to the H-Chipset. Get the 840 Evo SSD (just as good, less expensive). Spend the money saved above to upgrade your video card a tad. Get a Seasonic semi-modular PSU. And for crissakes, get a decent monitor. :) 
August 15, 2014 8:11:35 PM

Karsten, thanks for the reply.

I don't really plan to overclock other than the auto optomiztion of the board. I figured the 4790k would be better due to the base clock speed being 4.0 vs 3.5. I don't need hyperthreading just looking for faster out of the box. If I get the 4690k should it easily clock to match the 4790k?
I swapped the PSU for a Seasonic SSR-650RM, and te 850pro for the 840 EVO, sound good? I only pick the corsair PSU because I have that one at work and its nice and quiet and has been reliable. I think the videocard is way overkill for what I'm doing with it but could upgrade, I dont really want to spend over $300 on this since the IGP would probably be sufficient for what I'm doing, other than occasional Inventor use.

What would you reccomend I look for in a monitor? Brigtness, response time, resolution?


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August 15, 2014 10:19:45 PM

The corsair power supply is fine. Seasonic is kind of the gold standard in power supplies, but there is nothing wrong with corsairs. Particularly since you are not going to be redlining it anywhere near 650W actual use, there is no issue getting the corsair if you want.

Overclocking is luck. Probably it would clock up, some, but you don't ever know, each processor is different. If you intend to overclock I would look at it as a possible small performance gain, but mostly for the fun of doing it.

I agree with the samsung EVO change. The only advantage the pro has is slightly better endurance.. but in any normal sort of use you will never see an issue with the evo for decade(s), by which point I imagine the PC has been updated/replaced. If you are the kind of user who constantly creates and deletes 10GB files many times every day, then maybe the samsung Pro would be a better choice.

As a round figure, you might expect to be able to write/erase 750,000 GB to the samsung evo, while the pro might last for 5,000,000GB. Either way, you are never likely to hit these numbers.

The videocard is fine, but if you are not gaming, it may be overkill. I don't really know what sort of GPU loads your video editing will need though. You could drop to a GTX 750 Ti from newegg.ca for about 160$.

Also, your memory (RAM) is 30$ cheaper on directcanada.ca which is actually the same company as ncix.com... they have some weird setup going on with two online portals.

What to look for in a monitor is something of a personal preference. I like IPS monitors for their viewing angles and color fidelity, but it comes at a price. TN panels are typically best for fast paced gaming because of their response times. Prioritize what you want, then you can decide what type of monitor is best.

edit: typo
August 15, 2014 10:49:11 PM

Thanks for the info bluejay, I swapped out the SSD for the Evo.
I'm going to try overclocking, since i got that monster NH-D15 cooler, but I really just wanted it for quiet operation.
As for the videos card, My Quadro FX1600m works, so I think the video card will be a huge step up from what I have now.

I tried looking on directcanada for the ram, but it was only $3 cheaper, so I just ordered from NCIX.

I hit the order button on the components, except for monitors.

Thanks fro the help all.
August 15, 2014 11:16:45 PM

My bad on the RAM! I must have looked at a different part. Good luck with the building, I'm sure youll have a great time :) 
August 16, 2014 6:33:53 AM

Well, I came back to the party a little late. See you took some recommendations, others were different... that's how it goes. Good luck with the build.

On monitors, there are a few considerations.

1. Real estate (resolution). I know a lot of people are happy at 1920x 1080 but personally, I'm not one of those (lot). I prefer larger, hiher resolution monitors. RIght now I have 2 by 24-inch 1920x 1200 Asus PA248 monitors.

It's actually as a result of a mistake. :)  I bought these for my sister who is a photographer, for their color capabilities, then I could not get them to her, so I ended up using them. For myself I was hoping to get slightly larger 2560x 1440 monitors in 28-inch format.

If you get too many pixels without increasing the monitor physical size, everything gets really, really tiny and windows scaling is not good.

2. If you don't game, then IPS panels are better for their wider viewing angles (which actually come into play if you sit only 3 feet (max) away from a 28-inch panel. You don't want the colors to have gradients from the top to the bottom. Unfortunately, IPS panels have slightly slowergray-to-gray response times at 8-10msec than the top TN panels (1-5msec) so gamers prefer TN.

3. Refresh rates and color depth. These puppies I have are 8-bit color. There are 10-bit color panels, it's hard to find true 10-bit panels and many fake it by dithering color. Graphic artists hate that.

Gamers like 144Hz refresh rates, which only a handful of TN panels can do. It is a good investment, as both Nvidia and AMD are working on varying and syncing the refresh with their graphics cards.

the larger 4K monitors are not yeat ready for prime-time. Many of them futs it by pretending to be 2 smaller monitors in one panel and need two connections to the GPU, for instance.

If you are up to WQHD or WQXGA resolutions, you can still drive it with one DVI-D or Displayport adapter. Then depending on what you do, you may need a beefier graphics card to render and deliver all those pixels to the monitor in a timely fashion.

Have fun.
August 16, 2014 7:33:03 AM

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/panasonic-39-class-38-1-2-diag--led-1080p-60hz-hdtv/3621011.p?id=1219092581808&skuId=3621011&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=3621011&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!39882102311!g!!46501384991&kpid=3621011&k_clickid=60bda189-d3be-4de9-db7e-00000ff67eb9&gclid=CIz7mr79l8ACFQiEaQod74AASQ

Since you haven't committed monitor wise yet I urge you to consider some other options in the HDTV possibilities, it has to be a 1080P to be able to game with anything less will smear gaming, I tried earlier 720P etc. and it didn't work.

With smaller size HDTV prices dropping like a rock you can snag a larger screen that will be a nice gaming solution without the hassles of a multi monitor setup.

I'm running a 46" Toshiba 1080P HDTV LCD and it is killer for gaming, it is like walking into the screen instead of looking at it.

This larger screen gaming experience has literally ruined me coming from a 27" monitor, as I'll never be satisfied going back to the smaller screens.

True 1080P is a 1920 x 1080 resolution the link above is just one possibility and Just a suggestion to consider thinking in a different direction!

My main point is check the price!
August 16, 2014 8:24:57 AM

4Ryan6 said:
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Since you haven't committed monitor wise yet I urge you to consider some other options in the HDTV possibilities, it has to be a 1080P to be able to game with anything less will smear gaming, I tried earlier 720P etc. and it didn't work.



You did notice in OP that he is not really into gaming, right?

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I will use it for Autodesk inventor and editing video occasionally, but mostly just for surfing the web.I'm upgrading because my laptop is about 7 years old now.
Thanks,

August 16, 2014 8:53:59 AM

4Ryan6 said:

Since you haven't committed monitor wise yet I urge you to consider some other options in the HDTV possibilities, it has to be a 1080P to be able to game with anything less will smear gaming, I tried earlier 720P etc. and it didn't work.


Well I have a spare 42" 1080P tv since my girlfriend and I moved in together and both had one.
So I'll try that before spending time and money looking into monitors.

August 16, 2014 10:10:21 AM

Karsten75 said:
4Ryan6 said:
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Since you haven't committed monitor wise yet I urge you to consider some other options in the HDTV possibilities, it has to be a 1080P to be able to game with anything less will smear gaming, I tried earlier 720P etc. and it didn't work.



You did notice in OP that he is not really into gaming, right?

Quote:
I will use it for Autodesk inventor and editing video occasionally, but mostly just for surfing the web.I'm upgrading because my laptop is about 7 years old now.
Thanks,



Missed that, My Bad! :( 

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