FX 8350 or I5 4460 For gaming like Ac unity and Farcry 4 and stuff ?
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alrise
August 21, 2014 1:35:15 PM
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alrise
August 21, 2014 1:43:24 PM
alrise
August 21, 2014 1:44:39 PM
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
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Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.Intel disabled the limited muliplier OC with Haswell. I do believe boards, with multi-core enhancement, can make all 4 cores run max turbo speed though.
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jdcranke07
August 21, 2014 1:56:46 PM
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
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alrise
August 21, 2014 2:05:44 PM
JOOK-D said:
alrise said:
logainofhades said:
An i5 is superior in gaming period. An FX 8350 can compete, but needs overclocked to do so, making AMD less of a value. Not to mention, AM3+ is a dead platform. u mean he 8350 isn't as good as intel i5 ?
In gaming, that is correct.
in percent ? how would it be
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alrise
August 21, 2014 2:10:19 PM
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
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jdcranke07
August 21, 2014 2:24:42 PM
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
To be honest, there is no way to predict whether or not future games will be more CPU or GPU intensive as they vary a lot right now. Not to mention, there is also no way to predict if the CPU intensive games will be more effectively played with AMD chips or Intel chips. It's all based on whether the developers design a game that utilizes single or multi cores/threads more so than the other and if hyperthreading is needed for better performance or not. We really just have to wait and see. If you only plan to game and do not plan on using your build to photo edit, video edit, or do very intense single core processing, then an AMD chip is perfectly fine. And yes many people do have the AM3+ chips cause they are very nice for casual gaming to enthusiast level when max FPS is not your end game. Not to mention cheaper!
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alrise
August 21, 2014 2:31:36 PM
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
To be honest, there is no way to predict whether or not future games will be more CPU or GPU intensive as they vary a lot right now. Not to mention, there is also no way to predict if the CPU intensive games will be more effectively played with AMD chips or Intel chips. It's all based on whether the developers design a game that utilizes single or multi cores/threads more so than the other and if hyperthreading is needed for better performance or not. We really just have to wait and see. If you only plan to game and do not plan on using your build to photo edit, video edit, or do very intense single core processing, then an AMD chip is perfectly fine. And yes many people do have the AM3+ chips cause they are very nice for casual gaming to enthusiast level when max FPS is not your end game. Not to mention cheaper!
then should i buy the 8350 ? and what would be the difference in the performance ? in percent
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jdcranke07
August 21, 2014 2:35:40 PM
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
Here is a comparison with just specs. This DOES NOT compare performance, however.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-AMD-FX-83...
These are the benchmark scores off of cpubenchmark.net
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2230&cmp[]=1780
From what I saw, If the i5 is better at single core performance then its barely better. With multi-core performance the 8350 stomps the i5. Plus, the 8350 is clocked higher naturally.
Hope this helps.
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alrise
August 21, 2014 2:40:17 PM
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
Here is a comparison with just specs. This DOES NOT compare performance, however.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-AMD-FX-83...
These are the benchmark scores off of cpubenchmark.net
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2230&cmp[]=1780
Hope this helps.
can u tell cause i'm not good to know this
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jdcranke07
August 21, 2014 2:45:31 PM
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
Here is a comparison with just specs. This DOES NOT compare performance, however.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-AMD-FX-83...
These are the benchmark scores off of cpubenchmark.net
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2230&cmp[]=1780
Hope this helps.
can u tell cause i'm not good to know this
The higher the scores the better. These scores are based on overall performance which includes combined scores for single core performance and muilt core performance. For your money and for gaming go with the 8350. Now before someone else says that I'm being biased I will throw out a disclaimer. I have an FX-8350 in one build and an i7-4790K in my newest build (both overclocked) and I love both. For the budget builder the FX-8350 will be best in most cases when speaking in terms of cost to performance ratios.
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alrise
August 21, 2014 4:20:31 PM
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
jdcranke07 said:
alrise said:
Icaraeus said:
Additionally, the i5 can be overclocked as well if you have a Zxx motherboard and enable non-K OC on motherboards that have it. You can raise the clock speed from, say, 3.8Ghz to 4.2Ghz and go even higher through voltage and core clock modification.i won't OC any of these 2 i f i got one of them cause i'm not pro in these things you know
In order for the 8350 to compete with the i5 on single core performance, yes you have to overclock it. I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz from 4.0Ghz with my BUS OC'd to 230Mhz from 200Mhz at rock solid stability. However, the 8350 will be more than enough for most, especially those who do not overclock and it's easier on the wallet. Because it is a dead platform, if you wanted to upgrade later your only options would be the 9xxx series AM3+ chips. Not to mention AMD chips run much hotter then Intel due to their higher wattage consumption. The 8350 runs stock at 125W and when OC'd it hits about 225W +/- 25-50W. I highly recommend an all-in-one closed loop CPU cooler at bare minimum for the 8350 as well. One of my current builds has the Corsair H80i cooling an 8350 OC'd and it does not ever get really hot unless stressed with small FFTs on Prime95. If money is not really a factor then I recommend the i5 due to efficiency and performance.
Hope this helps a bit.
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
Here is a comparison with just specs. This DOES NOT compare performance, however.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-AMD-FX-83...
These are the benchmark scores off of cpubenchmark.net
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2230&cmp[]=1780
Hope this helps.
can u tell cause i'm not good to know this
The higher the scores the better. These scores are based on overall performance which includes combined scores for single core performance and muilt core performance. For your money and for gaming go with the 8350. Now before someone else says that I'm being biased I will throw out a disclaimer. I have an FX-8350 in one build and an i7-4790K in my newest build (both overclocked) and I love both. For the budget builder the FX-8350 will be best in most cases when speaking in terms of cost to performance ratios.
it's amazing that u have both so what do you think id better btw i5 4460 is cheaper here that the 8350 so i wanna just know will the 8350 even close to the 4460 in the performance or the i5 is more better si i choose it
p.s i wanna know if the i5 will stand against the coming games if it would be multicore
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alrise
August 21, 2014 4:23:05 PM
gear999 said:
I'd say i5 if you have the budget for it. I have the 4460 and I love it. It performs better than most AMD processors (maybe the 9590 would beat it slightly). If you're on a budget, go for the 8320 (yes, 8320, since it's the same thing as the 8350, just with a bit lower clock.)i have the budget but some people told me that the 8350 can beat the 4460 and BF4 is a proof
and i'm afraid if i bought the i5 the this fall games and the 2015 games will go with multicore technology...then the AMD will do better
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alrise said:
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
It is dead, because of 0 upgrade path. There are no new CPU's coming out on AM3+, other than overpriced space heaters, aka FX 9xxx. If you are really concerned with future games, pick up a Xeon 1231v3, and an ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 to offset the cost difference. You would have i7 4770 performance from a cpu $50 cheaper than the i7. FX 8350 cannot touch that CPU, even with all but the most extreme of overclocks.
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jdcranke07
August 22, 2014 6:27:53 AM
Its based on preference with these two CPUs to be honest. I switched to Intel because they consume less power and generally have the performance to back up the justification of switching to say an i7-4790K like I did. Personally, the 8350 is a good chip, but if you got the 4460 then you would be able to put even more high-end 1150 socket chips in later if you wanted. If want room to upgrade go Intel, if that doesn't matter then go AMD.
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alrise
August 22, 2014 11:11:09 AM
logainofhades said:
alrise said:
i really don't know how would it be a dead platform alot of people owned it....and u know the 8350 does a better work in BF4 the i5 doesn't and hat what i'm afraid of that the future games will run better in the 8350
It is dead, because of 0 upgrade path. There are no new CPU's coming out on AM3+, other than overpriced space heaters, aka FX 9xxx. If you are really concerned with future games, pick up a Xeon 1231v3, and an ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 to offset the cost difference. You would have i7 4770 performance from a cpu $50 cheaper than the i7. FX 8350 cannot touch that CPU, even with all but the most extreme of overclocks.
u mean there is no cpu are coming with the AM3 ?
BTW if i'd upgrad in the future it would be 4 years from now so i want a chip that can run battlefield HL , ACU ,FC4 with even 50fps...so the fx would be great for BF gaming
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jdcranke07
August 22, 2014 12:45:09 PM
CooLWoLF said:
If your not going to overclock, then go with the Intel. If you change your mind about overclocking, then wait till September for the new FX 8370e ($189). Its a base clock of 4.1ghz at a 95watt tdp and should overclock higher then the original 125watt 4ghz 8350.
Do you have specs for the 8370e or a website that I could visit?
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jdcranke07 said:
CooLWoLF said:
If your not going to overclock, then go with the Intel. If you change your mind about overclocking, then wait till September for the new FX 8370e ($189). Its a base clock of 4.1ghz at a 95watt tdp and should overclock higher then the original 125watt 4ghz 8350.
Do you have specs for the 8370e or a website that I could visit?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-cpu-price-drop,275...
Just don't read my comment about the article
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alrise
August 22, 2014 3:38:49 PM
CooLWoLF said:
If your not going to overclock, then go with the Intel. If you change your mind about overclocking, then wait till September for the new FX 8370e ($189). Its a base clock of 4.1ghz at a 95watt tdp and should overclock higher then the original 125watt 4ghz 8350.
it would be better that the 8350 u sure ?
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alrise
August 22, 2014 3:43:35 PM
alrise said:
CooLWoLF said:
If your not going to overclock, then go with the Intel. If you change your mind about overclocking, then wait till September for the new FX 8370e ($189). Its a base clock of 4.1ghz at a 95watt tdp and should overclock higher then the original 125watt 4ghz 8350.
it would be better that the 8350 u sure ?
Theoretically it should be a better overclocker than an 125watt 8350 because it has more thermal headroom. But if you have no intentions of overclocking then its a moot point anyway.
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jdcranke07
August 22, 2014 6:03:26 PM
varad2k
September 24, 2014 11:11:23 PM
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