Machine for Financial / trading application

vijayvenkat

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I'm looking to assemble a workstation that needs to do the following.

I'm currently on a Core i3 530 (4 year old) based All in One HP desktop with 4GB RAM, that I guess has lived its life. I use Windows 7 Home Premium (64bit). One option is to increase the memory and milk it for a year or may be 2.

It needs to run (a) Matlab 2014, (b) Trading workstation of Interactive Brokers, (c) a couple of other trading tool of brokers and may be Bloomberg application as well. I plan to use a CUDA parallel processing [currently getting initiated into this] for Matlab, so looking at a decent GPU, that can support 2 displays to start with and eventually to 3 or 4 displays. The intention is to use this as a workstation to run algorithmic trading (not High Frequency, but something that could be termed as Medium Frequency - say 15 min timeframe). Basically the workstation would need to handle financial market data and price derivatives and generate/ place algo orders.

Will be running on Windows 7 Professional 64 bit.

This is my first build and whatever I'm doing is based on a week's research online

Here is what I considered:

Processor : Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 (3.4 GHz) or Intel i7-4690k (3.9 GHz)
Motherboard : Asus H97 Mobo or Z97-A Mobo [I'm unlikely to overclock as reliability and repeatability is key]
RAM : 16 GB RAM (2 x 8 GB 1600 Mhz)
SSD : Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB
HDD : 1 TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm (x 2 for 2TB eventually)
GPU : GeForce GTX 760 or GeForce GTX 750 Ti (Asus or EVGA) - 2GB
PSU : 600W (This build is in India and hence would pick what is available locally)
Cooling : Confused

Xeon is preferred as I'm planning to run the workstation over 14-16 hrs a day with some day end activity with remote access from home.

I prefer GTX 750Ti over GTX 760 as the CUDA compute capability as informed on NVidia website is higher for 750Ti at 5.0 vs 760 at 3.0 (as also the cost is lower by $100). But my confusion is CUDA cores for 750Ti is 640 vs 1152 for 760. Source : https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus

After a bit of research - I decided on Corsair H80i Hydro Cooling - Still confused between Air cooled and Liquid cooling systems.

Hence my final build looks like this:

Processor : Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3
Motherboard : Asus Z97-A (as the cost difference between H97 and G97 was marginal - thought this helps if I move to Broadwell later)
RAM : 16 GB RAM (2 x 8 GB 1600 Mhz)
SSD : Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB
HDD : 1 TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm
GPU : EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
Cooling : Corsair H80i Hydro Cooling
PSU : 600W - Will pick this in India.

PC Partspicker is suggesting power at 253W for the above.

This costs around $975 (+ cost for PSU + Cabinet, say around $80), so around $1055.

My Budget was around $1250 for the base workstation, but I thought the above configuration is quite good and would satisfy my current requirement.
[If I choose, i7-4690k and GeForce GTX 760, the cost would be $ 1170 (+ cost for PSU + Cabinet, say around $80), for a total cost of around $1250.]

How does this build look like. Is this something that would be considered mid-tier over the next 2-3 years or so. Please suggest if I need to upgrade any of my choices.

Should I increase my budget and go for a LGA 2011 based processor and board [Additional Cost would be $220 for a i7-5820K processor on a Asus P9X79 and a 16GB DDR4 RAM, taking my total base w/s build cost to around $1470]

Also - I need to set up a storage for backup - can I add 2 more HDD to this machine and use that as a backup or should I get a separate unit with 2TB storage and RAID controller. I'm planning a daily backup.

Thanks for all the help.
 

vijayvenkat

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The final configuration looks like this....

But still looking for a good CPU and Case Cooling suggestion. PCPartPicker calculates the power consumption as 363W. Planning to get a 500W PSU in India.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/vijayvenkat/saved/T4RYcf

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tJR4P6) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tJR4P6/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3) | $247.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah97d3h) | $92.75 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [Kingston Fury Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx316c10f8) | $74.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [Kingston Fury Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx316c10f8) | $74.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te250lw) | $149.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | $53.98 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5) | $223.99 @ Newegg
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $918.67
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-10 13:04 EDT-0400 |

 

numanator

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The Xeon 1231 v3 is a good choice for this type of build. H97 mobos should support broadwell CPUs as well as the Z97 mobos (just no OC on the H97s).

It is typically a better idea to get a set of 2x8 ram since their timings are matched and you are much less likely to encounter compatibility issues.

For the PSU, if you are buying in India then I pretty much only recommend the Seasonic MII12 (520w or 620w versions would work for your build). A good quality power supply is essential if you are looking for reliability. You should probably expect to spend closer to $100+ on the PSU and Case combined. The seasonic SII12 typically goes for 4.5-6k RS on websites but you should be able to find it cheaper (hopefully) at local vendors.
 

vijayvenkat

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Thanks Numanator. Will be checking out a couple of local vendors this weekend. Hopefully they carry the ones you mentioned. I think $100 is probably what I'm looking at for PSU and Case.

Any suggestion on a good cooling system.

 

numanator

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With the Xeon, the stock cooler is usually sufficient but if your room/office doesn't have AC or gets hot then you may want a decent CPU cooler just to be safe and keep the fan noise lower.

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is a good one (or the 212 Plus if you can't find the Evo), usually about $30 USD.

If you find a decent case (corsair, cooler master, nzxt, fractal design are the ones I trust, nzxt and fractal design may not be available in India though) then you shouldn't need additional case fans.
 

vijayvenkat

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Thanks again Numanator.

When you say paired RAM, do you mean to say they are paired after testing et al. Both the RAMs that I picked are the same but not paired. Just bought 2 of the same.
 

vijayvenkat

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With respect to the PSU, if I were to buy it in the US, which ones would you recommend - I see that most of the ones have 100-240V range of power input (the reason I wanted to pick in India was primarily because, India works on 230V AC and I thought PSUs would be customised for the input Voltage).
 

numanator

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The seasonic is always a good choice even in the US. You can Also get the XFX 550w or 650w for a bit cheaper usually and is basically made by Seasonic.

Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)

Any of these would work. The last one is modular meaning that the cables are detachable so you would have less clutter in the case if that interests you. The non-modular 620w S12II is $5-10 less.

For them to work in India you would just need a cable for your plugs or an adapter.
 

Sriman

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I am also planning to build a system for trading and charts. Thanks for the post, i am going to keep this as a reference.

Vijay Venkat, please continue to post your system performance. what case did you buy , and also just curious where did you buy the parts in india, like online store or local market ?

Sri

 

vijayvenkat

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Hi Sriman - at the moment the rig is idle from a utilisation perspective. I'm migrating from Windows 7 on my HP All-in-One to Ubuntu Linux on the new one. Hence still running the AIO. But from the initial tests, my codes run almost 50% faster. I have not yet used GPU for computational purposes. Will update when I have some results. I expect it to cut my processing speeds by 95% if not more.
 

vijayvenkat

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Suddenly over the weekend, the rig has slowed down - the matlab code that used to run in 300 seconds take around 1200 seconds to run. Had a blue screen with a dump of physical memory today.

SSD is partitioned - On 1 partition i run the programs and on Partition 2 has the data.

No addition to hardware or any software changes. Clueless as to what could be issue.
 

vijayvenkat

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Did a brand new install of OS on the SSD and all the applications. The data is now moved to the HDD.

Regained the lost speed.

Its been a month now and no issues.
 

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