Can you exist without your cell phone
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musical marv
September 7, 2014 6:38:35 PM
turkey3_scratch
September 7, 2014 6:45:13 PM
Karadjgne
September 7, 2014 6:45:42 PM
Yes. And No.
Back a few years ago, I personally didn't have a cell phone, although just about everybody, including my daughters did. I simply didn't have a need for one. If I needed a phone, I just used a payphone or landline at the house. Nowadays finding a payphone, nevermind one that actually works, is harder than finding a needle in a haystack.
So, could I live without one? Sure. Would it turn out to be a royal P. I. T. A, oh hell yes lol. So, No.
Btw, this was answered via cell phone as my pc is currently down for RMA repair on the mobo. Hah lol.
Back a few years ago, I personally didn't have a cell phone, although just about everybody, including my daughters did. I simply didn't have a need for one. If I needed a phone, I just used a payphone or landline at the house. Nowadays finding a payphone, nevermind one that actually works, is harder than finding a needle in a haystack.
So, could I live without one? Sure. Would it turn out to be a royal P. I. T. A, oh hell yes lol. So, No.
Btw, this was answered via cell phone as my pc is currently down for RMA repair on the mobo. Hah lol.
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JackNaylorPE
September 7, 2014 6:47:09 PM
Easily. Up until last month, I had a seldom used old, PAYG flipphone. Was out of battery more often than not.
Last month, I splurged and bought a LG Tracfone because I was going out of town, and SWMBO insisted. $100 in minutes will easily last me for a year.
Why? I can't have it at work, and don't need it at home. If it were to die, my life would not be diminished one iota.
Last month, I splurged and bought a LG Tracfone because I was going out of town, and SWMBO insisted. $100 in minutes will easily last me for a year.
Why? I can't have it at work, and don't need it at home. If it were to die, my life would not be diminished one iota.
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JackNaylorPE
September 8, 2014 9:19:47 AM
I went the other way ...... have no home phone and saving money. Every call made on 5 cell phones from my home is free and no long distance charges. Data usage is also way way down.
I'm out in the boonies so we needed a cell booster. Use a MicoCell which picks up our cell phones and sends them out over the internet "a la MagicJack". Since I often work from home, not only has my home phone bill disappeared but my business phone bill has dropped from $300+ territory to < $300.
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I'm out in the boonies so we needed a cell booster. Use a MicoCell which picks up our cell phones and sends them out over the internet "a la MagicJack". Since I often work from home, not only has my home phone bill disappeared but my business phone bill has dropped from $300+ territory to < $300.
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JackNaylorPE
September 8, 2014 12:53:03 PM
Im sure it is but they can't charge me for what I don't use...... my calls are not going out over the cell network. The MicroCell is a mini receiving tower. It takes all 5 cell phones over my own private GSM network and send them out / in over the internet. As soon as I leave the driveway, I get dropped by my own "private cell tower" and picked up by the GSM network .... these calls are covered by my plan ..... for the 5 phones, I am down from about 800 minutes a month to about 300.
http://www.att.com/media/en_US/swf/3Gmicrocell/assets/A...
But regardless of what they charge, they can't charge me for what I don't use. This is basically the same thing as the MagicJack except I'm using 5 cell phones and 5 numbers for $20 a month ($240 a year) instead of $60 per line per year for MagicJack
http://www.magicjack.com/index.html
Side benefit ..... with three boys 18 - 24 I don't have to answer a constant barrage of girls calling asking if my sons are home
And they don't get calls at 3 am telling them that a plant lost power.
I tried looking them up for GB but no luck.... they work on GSM so shud work on your side of the pond
http://www.att.com/media/en_US/swf/3Gmicrocell/assets/A...
But regardless of what they charge, they can't charge me for what I don't use. This is basically the same thing as the MagicJack except I'm using 5 cell phones and 5 numbers for $20 a month ($240 a year) instead of $60 per line per year for MagicJack
http://www.magicjack.com/index.html
Side benefit ..... with three boys 18 - 24 I don't have to answer a constant barrage of girls calling asking if my sons are home
And they don't get calls at 3 am telling them that a plant lost power.
I tried looking them up for GB but no luck.... they work on GSM so shud work on your side of the pond
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musical marv
September 8, 2014 5:38:12 PM
Karadjgne
September 8, 2014 6:33:28 PM
The Samsung Galaxy S5 I'm currently typing on cost over $700. I'd say some cell phones are cheap, but mostly it's a game. What you get for 'free' is guaranteed to be paid for with the service plan, taxes, wierd off the wall charges etc. I pay $160 a month for 5 lines, 3 iPhone and 2 s5's, with 10Gb of data, unlimited everything else + international. But I also have no contract.
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Karadjgne said:
The Samsung Galaxy S5 I'm currently typing on cost over $700. I'd say some cell phones are cheap, but mostly it's a game. What you get for 'free' is guaranteed to be paid for with the service plan, taxes, wierd off the wall charges etc. I pay $160 a month for 5 lines, 3 iPhone and 2 s5's, with 10Gb of data, unlimited everything else + international. But I also have no contract. And personal usage varies. A LOT.
I pay $100/year for cell phone ($40 phone), $4/month for house landline, and ~$45/month unlimited 50/50mbps internet at the house..
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gropouce
September 9, 2014 4:35:14 AM
Interesting.
I'm not a permanent user of my cell phone, but It's freaking practice. (is "practice" the good word, here? i mean "it's useful")
And it's pretty cheap in here.
30€/month for the internet 1Gbps (38$)
With this provider, i can choose:
- one free subscription to a cell phone with 2h call per month and free sms. Cheap data with 3G/4G, but free via wifi
- 15€ per month for a completely unlimited use of a cell phone. (19$)
Basically, it costs me 45€/month for internet, television, telephone and cell phone with no limit of use and no contract. (58$)
It used to be a lot more expensive until Xavier Niel decided to change a few things.=)
(edit: adding prices in USD)
I'm not a permanent user of my cell phone, but It's freaking practice. (is "practice" the good word, here? i mean "it's useful")
And it's pretty cheap in here.
30€/month for the internet 1Gbps (38$)
With this provider, i can choose:
- one free subscription to a cell phone with 2h call per month and free sms. Cheap data with 3G/4G, but free via wifi
- 15€ per month for a completely unlimited use of a cell phone. (19$)
Basically, it costs me 45€/month for internet, television, telephone and cell phone with no limit of use and no contract. (58$)
It used to be a lot more expensive until Xavier Niel decided to change a few things.=)
(edit: adding prices in USD)
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I just got my first smartphone literally 3 weeks ago. Went from a Samsung slider to a Samsung Galaxy Ace Style. It's a fairly new lower end phone but as a first time smartphone owner I can't imagine what the more expensive phones have that mine doesn't. Well I can really, a larger screen, better camera, 4G LTE, faster processor, more RAM etc. But I'm honestly amazed at how badass this thing is. I paid $150 for the phone but it came with a $30 Walmart gift card so it was really only $120. I dropped ATT and went with Straight Talk ( this phone uses Verizon's towers ) and it's $45 a month for unlimited minutes, texting and data with no contract.
I really didn't even need a smartphone but I hate ATT and hated being in a contract even more and this didn't end up too much more expensive than what I had. Once I finally got it my main thought is what took me so long! Stupid thing is addictive as hell. It's almost worth it just to have a halfway decent camera. The camera on my last phone was terrible.
Could I live without a cell phone in general? No. In fact my first cell phone came in a bag and I have had one since. But I could live without a smartphone.
I really didn't even need a smartphone but I hate ATT and hated being in a contract even more and this didn't end up too much more expensive than what I had. Once I finally got it my main thought is what took me so long! Stupid thing is addictive as hell. It's almost worth it just to have a halfway decent camera. The camera on my last phone was terrible.
Could I live without a cell phone in general? No. In fact my first cell phone came in a bag and I have had one since. But I could live without a smartphone.
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summer31
September 10, 2014 12:33:38 AM
JackNaylorPE
September 10, 2014 7:24:37 AM
The thing about smartphones is that they are less phone and more "entertainment" devices. I have been in a Starbucks 3 times in my life and one thing I noticed is peeps who don't know each other oft wind up sharing table because of the very limited seating. Once visit was a business meeting where the the table next to us had a guy and a girl sitting together each quietly busy, one with a phone and other a phablet. We were there about an hour and I didn't hear either of them speak. Just as we finished and were leacing, they both got up, left together and got in their car .
Drives me nutz when my sons text me from their rooms .... I don't answer, other than to tell them to get off their arse and have a human to human conversation.
I still miss my Treo 650 which I used for 7 years, nothing's touched it yet. I took of e-mail as accomplishing actual work on a phone is too unproductive, that's what lappies are for. I use it for phone, GPS Navigation, calendar, checking flight, train and ferry schedules, weather, and little else.
Drives me nutz when my sons text me from their rooms .... I don't answer, other than to tell them to get off their arse and have a human to human conversation.
I still miss my Treo 650 which I used for 7 years, nothing's touched it yet. I took of e-mail as accomplishing actual work on a phone is too unproductive, that's what lappies are for. I use it for phone, GPS Navigation, calendar, checking flight, train and ferry schedules, weather, and little else.
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musical marv
September 10, 2014 5:27:31 PM
JackNaylorPE said:
The thing about smartphones is that they are less phone and more "entertainment" devices. I have been in a Starbucks 3 times in my life and one thing I noticed is peeps who don't know each other oft wind up sharing table because of the very limited seating. Once visit was a business meeting where the the table next to us had a guy and a girl sitting together each quietly busy, one with a phone and other a phablet. We were there about an hour and I didn't hear either of them speak. Just as we finished and were leacing, they both got up, left together and got in their car .Drives me nutz when my sons text me from their rooms .... I don't answer, other than to tell them to get off their arse and have a human to human conversation.
I still miss my Treo 650 which I used for 7 years, nothing's touched it yet. I took of e-mail as accomplishing actual work on a phone is too unproductive, that's what lappies are for. I use it for phone, GPS Navigation, calendar, checking flight, train and ferry schedules, weather, and little else.
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JackNaylorPE
September 10, 2014 5:54:39 PM
gropouce
September 11, 2014 12:25:04 AM
musical marv said:
We are losing communication between human beings today account of these dam cell phones I see it every day and our intelligence is shrinking to.i'm not really sure about that, Marv.
You say we are loosing communication between human beings, boday's technologies allow me to have a conversation with you.
Concerning our intelligence, i admit, something is going on. I prefer to believe we live a time when the intelligence is in transition.
Today it is no longer necessary to retain a quantity of things (in the workplace, for example), to the extent that information is available at will with an internet connection.
I do not think the advent of the internet will be a drag on our evolution. It is true that some people become lazy, but then to say that we are in the process of intellectual regression, I do not agree.
I think we are developing a new way of operating. This can be ultimately positive or negative, but it is far too early to tell.
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musical marv
September 11, 2014 5:14:26 PM
gropouce said:
musical marv said:
We are losing communication between human beings today account of these dam cell phones I see it every day and our intelligence is shrinking to.i'm not really sure about that, Marv.
You say we are loosing communication between human beings, boday's technologies allow me to have a conversation with you.
Concerning our intelligence, i admit, something is going on. I prefer to believe we live a time when the intelligence is in transition.
Today it is no longer necessary to retain a quantity of things (in the workplace, for example), to the extent that information is available at will with an internet connection.
I do not think the advent of the internet will be a drag on our evolution. It is true that some people become lazy, but then to say that we are in the process of intellectual regression, I do not agree.
I think we are developing a new way of operating. This can be ultimately positive or negative, but it is far too early to tell.
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Saga Lout said:
Whichever way technology takes us, I fear we are very vulnerable to be so dependent on devices powered by electricity. I agree with you there. Wouldn't take much more than an extremely powerful solar flare much less something man made like an EMP attack to send us back to pre industrial revolution days. Very few people left have the skills to even grow their own food much less hunt and fish for it. Imagine every microprocessor and anything with a circuit destroyed. No cars built after 1971 would ever run again ( electronic ignition ) and while some older farm equipment might work there would be no way to get fuel to it. Hundreds of millions if not billions would die. Those that would do best are the countries that lack any sort of modern technology.
Just read this very interesting article on how the age of the hydrocarbon ( read electricity ) has initiated a dramatic increase in human evolution.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/humans-could-middle-huge-...
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USAFRet said:
The recent novel One Second After goes in to a bit of detail with what would happen after such an EMP strike. A lot of things people don't realize.Medications? 30 days.
Read it
The kid with type 1 diabetes and the fate of the family dogs were real tearjerkers.Edit: Lucifer's Hammer is another good "what if" book from the mid 70's. Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle co-authored it. The hammer being a comet that hits us. One of my favorite books.
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September 11, 2014 7:01:55 PM
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My understanding is that both sides in the cold war tested such devices and it is a fact that military grade electronics are shielded from EMP. From what I have heard several large yield megaton devices detonated in a footprint in the upper ionosphere would basically kill all the electronics in an area the size of a continent. Basically creating a solar storm on the planetary side of the ionosphere that protects us from the sun. Something not talked about much the same way neutron bombs aren't.
I was never military though and I don't know for sure as I don't have access to classified information. I just read a lot.
I'm also pretty sure we can do EMP on a much smaller scale ( non nuclear of course! ) and that we used such devices against Iraq's power grid in 2003.
I was never military though and I don't know for sure as I don't have access to classified information. I just read a lot.
I'm also pretty sure we can do EMP on a much smaller scale ( non nuclear of course! ) and that we used such devices against Iraq's power grid in 2003.
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turkey3_scratch said:
According to Wikipedia on EMPs it says:The popular media often depict EMP effects incorrectly, causing misunderstandings among the public and even professionals, and official efforts have been made in the USA to set the record straight.
So I hope you guys know what you're talking about.
So you made me wonder if I might be mistaken. Nope. It's worse than I thought. Smaller weapons could be used. I thought it took megaton range thermonuclear devices ( meaning US, Russia, UK, France, China and maybe Israel ) and it seems even a smaller crude atomic bomb would do it. Here is some fun reading. Seems like North Korea has been practicing.
James Woolsey was director of the CIA and Undersecretary of the Navy if you didn't know.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/james-woolsey-and-peter-...
http://www.voanews.com/content/us-defenseless-against-n...
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musical marv said:
Simple question. Can you live without your cell phone?Absolutely, the cell phone is an annoyance. My work provides and pays for it so that can put me on call. (Lovely.) Pretty well the only things I do on it are use it as a slightly more modern pager when I am on call and talk with my wife randomly and my immediate family members every couple of weeks. Don't laugh but I had a 1980s-era non-alphanumeric pager until very recently because a 159.25 MHz signal out of a 1000 watt transmitter carried much better than a 900-1900 MHz few hundred watt cell signal. I live in a pretty rural area with very spotty cell coverage so the cell phone is really an annoyance to even use for personal use as calls break up and drop. That's a feature for work and a bug for personal use.
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chunkymonster
September 23, 2014 7:02:19 AM
musical marv
September 23, 2014 5:59:27 PM
4Ryan6
October 15, 2014 3:42:04 AM
I could as all I have is a Motorola flip phone and just use it for phone calls, no texting, but my wife has gone Geek with her smart phone, if I need to talk with her even in the house, I have to call her on her phone!
Smart phones seem to be very addictive, they probably designed them that way, I'm sure sales are through the roof!
When someone is so into their phone activity they walk into and intersection head down, not paying attention and get hit by a car, they definitely have a problem!
At least my wife and I have a hopefully solid agreement that she will not text and drive!
Smart phones seem to be very addictive, they probably designed them that way, I'm sure sales are through the roof!
When someone is so into their phone activity they walk into and intersection head down, not paying attention and get hit by a car, they definitely have a problem!
At least my wife and I have a hopefully solid agreement that she will not text and drive!
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