Comcast Threatening To Disconnect Tor Users?
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exfileme
September 15, 2014 10:55:33 AM
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Urzu1000
September 15, 2014 11:12:11 AM
I like the option of being anonymous. To be honest though, I use the Tor Browser at work when I need to look at a website (Youtube for example), that's by default blocked on the network. There's nothing malicious about that, and my boss is fine with it.
I feel that we're at a fine time when anonymity and legality conflict between consumers and corporations. They're all so scared that people can do whatever they want, that they would like the limit the ability of the consumers so that they can better manage them.
I do not fault them for this, as from their side, this is important. But I don't take their side either. I simply won't use Comcast if they determine the type of browser I can or can't use on my computer.
I feel that we're at a fine time when anonymity and legality conflict between consumers and corporations. They're all so scared that people can do whatever they want, that they would like the limit the ability of the consumers so that they can better manage them.
I do not fault them for this, as from their side, this is important. But I don't take their side either. I simply won't use Comcast if they determine the type of browser I can or can't use on my computer.
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Here's the real problem:
If you surf the web truly anonymously, Comcast can't make money off of your marketing data.
This is a threat to all cable companies.
I'm sure Comcast'll get their buddy ol' Tom Wheeler over at the FCC involved if it becomes too much of a profit loss for them.
Fortunately for Comcast and other cable companies, not too many people even know what the Tor browser is.
They need to add funtionality to the Tor browser that sends special data to Comcast (so they still think they're getting what they want) while still keeping the person's browsing anonymous.
There's nothing illegal about anonymity when you're not doing anything illegal.
If you surf the web truly anonymously, Comcast can't make money off of your marketing data.
This is a threat to all cable companies.
I'm sure Comcast'll get their buddy ol' Tom Wheeler over at the FCC involved if it becomes too much of a profit loss for them.
Fortunately for Comcast and other cable companies, not too many people even know what the Tor browser is.
They need to add funtionality to the Tor browser that sends special data to Comcast (so they still think they're getting what they want) while still keeping the person's browsing anonymous.
There's nothing illegal about anonymity when you're not doing anything illegal.
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bourgeoisdude
September 15, 2014 11:23:26 AM
Devoteicon
September 15, 2014 11:41:44 AM
Morbus
September 15, 2014 11:41:57 AM
"Users who try to use anonymity, or cover themselves up on the internet, are usually doing things that aren't so-to-speak legal"
This notion is absolute bollocks.
Let me put it this way:
- people who use burner phones are usually criminals.
- people who wear dark clothes are usually thieves.
- people who drive cars with tinted windows are usually kidnapers.
- people who eat tofu are usually rapists.
Also:
- people who dye their hair are usually con artists.
This notion is absolute bollocks.
Let me put it this way:
- people who use burner phones are usually criminals.
- people who wear dark clothes are usually thieves.
- people who drive cars with tinted windows are usually kidnapers.
- people who eat tofu are usually rapists.
Also:
- people who dye their hair are usually con artists.
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skit75
September 15, 2014 12:04:16 PM
SteelCity1981
September 15, 2014 12:04:17 PM
"Users who try to use anonymity, or cover themselves up on the internet, are usually doing things that aren't so-to-speak legal," one Comcast agent told a customer.
I don't like to be followed around by websites I already visited and having my isp track me and where I go, because I don't like my privacy being intruded. that must mean I must be doing something illegal huh. lets cut the crap Comcast this isn't about you might be doing something illegal. this boils down to the isp's and advertising companies not being able to get info from where you go.
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Cazalan
September 15, 2014 12:06:15 PM
swiftleeo
September 15, 2014 12:06:19 PM
For the people who are doing illegal things, this means nothing. Comcast has a bad reputation for anti-piracy and anti-privacy, thus anyone doing such illegal things with half a brain would get another cable/internet provider if possible. Jeeze you pay them money to use their service and they complain about how you use it.
It's kind of like paying to get a house built and having the contractor complain about how messy the house is when you're living in it.
It's kind of like paying to get a house built and having the contractor complain about how messy the house is when you're living in it.
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WithoutWeakness
September 15, 2014 12:22:48 PM
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For the people who are doing illegal things, this means nothing. Comcast has a bad reputation for anti-piracy and anti-privacy, thus anyone doing such illegal things with half a brain would get another cable/internet provider if possible. Jeeze you pay them money to use their service and they complain about how you use it. It's kind of like paying to get a house built and having the contractor complain about how messy the house is when you're living in it.
There are a LOT of places in the US where Comcast is the only option for moderately reliable high-speed internet. In many places your only options are slow dial-up/DSL from a local phone company or Comcast. In some towns and counties Comcast has a contract to be the exclusive internet provider. There are people who would take another viable option in a heartbeat but short of uprooting their families' lives and moving they don't have any other options.
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swiftleeo
September 15, 2014 12:24:22 PM
WithoutWeakness said:
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For the people who are doing illegal things, this means nothing. Comcast has a bad reputation for anti-piracy and anti-privacy, thus anyone doing such illegal things with half a brain would get another cable/internet provider if possible. Jeeze you pay them money to use their service and they complain about how you use it. It's kind of like paying to get a house built and having the contractor complain about how messy the house is when you're living in it.
There are a LOT of places in the US where Comcast is the only option for moderately reliable high-speed internet. In many places your only options are slow dial-up/DSL from a local phone company or Comcast. In some towns and counties Comcast has a contract to be the exclusive internet provider. There are people who would take another viable option in a heartbeat but short of uprooting their families' lives and moving they don't have any other options.
That's true. Noone makes life easy. I'm guessing they would also disconnect VPN users?
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SirTrollsALot
September 15, 2014 12:51:46 PM
f-14
September 15, 2014 1:01:55 PM
Christopher1
September 15, 2014 1:11:02 PM
dovah-chan
September 15, 2014 2:41:08 PM
jasonelmore
September 15, 2014 4:02:55 PM
swiftleeo
September 15, 2014 4:48:16 PM
DragonFireXY
September 15, 2014 5:35:09 PM
swiftleeo
September 15, 2014 5:40:05 PM
Darkk
September 15, 2014 6:09:04 PM
I don't think it would be in best interest if Comcast also target VPN users as there are legit uses for it. I use it to connect to my work network. If they start blocking IPSEC traffic then I will use OpenVPN which allows me to pick any port I want and it looks like normal SSL traffic which is based on OpenSSL.
If Comcast suspect illegal activity then they have to get a search warrant the old fashioned way to search the suspect's PC. We take privacy and our liberty for granted.
If Comcast suspect illegal activity then they have to get a search warrant the old fashioned way to search the suspect's PC. We take privacy and our liberty for granted.
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arossetti
September 15, 2014 8:33:37 PM
soldier44
September 15, 2014 8:37:41 PM
Harris Sid
September 16, 2014 7:53:54 AM
Let this be clear: Tor is NOT used for illegal activities. Tor is used best when your government has censored or restricted content that is a user right (such as Twitter or Youtube being blocked in Eastern countries) and without it there would never be any NSA whistleblowers fighting for your rights. http://www.bestvpnservice.com/blog/legit-uses-for-tor-e...
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swiftleeo
September 16, 2014 9:48:42 AM
Christopher1
September 16, 2014 5:09:30 PM
Urzu1000
September 17, 2014 9:12:36 AM
Moot point, as Comcast denied this and said that you're free to use Tor. Probably to avoid bad publicity in all honesty, but the effect is the same.
It feels quite liberating to be anonymous online, even if you aren't doing anything different then you normally would.
On a side note: The BEST part about Tor, is going into the deepWeb and finding those conspiracy theorist forums. If you think you might know people in real life who are conspiracy theory nuts, just wait till you meet the ones who cover their tracks while discussing theories. It's very comical, and highly quotable. Even though I don't believe them, yay conspiracy theories!
It feels quite liberating to be anonymous online, even if you aren't doing anything different then you normally would.
On a side note: The BEST part about Tor, is going into the deepWeb and finding those conspiracy theorist forums. If you think you might know people in real life who are conspiracy theory nuts, just wait till you meet the ones who cover their tracks while discussing theories. It's very comical, and highly quotable. Even though I don't believe them, yay conspiracy theories!
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