Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards
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Nvidia has launched its all-new GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 graphics cards, which come packed full of new features and deliver this at a much lower TDP than before.
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards : Read more
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards : Read more
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srdragun
September 18, 2014 7:56:54 PM
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srdragun
September 18, 2014 8:00:56 PM
Nameless7
September 18, 2014 8:17:42 PM
17seconds said:
$330 for a card as fast as a GTX 780 Ti... AND uses over 100 watts less power? Not bad, price drops incoming everywhere, but who would want anything else?It's $550 for a card as fast as a GTX 780 Ti.
$330 only gets you a GTX 970, which is significantly slower. Should still be a great card though, and better value for money than the 980.
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soldier44
September 18, 2014 8:29:23 PM
airborne11b
September 18, 2014 8:31:29 PM
boju, that's not the whole picture, and compared to a 780 GTX the TDP difference 85w
So in SLI, that's 170w difference.
So by your math that saves $17 a month. But that's not all. That's also 170 watts less heat getting pumped into the room. Sure that doesn't mean much to you if you're living in canada, and gaming in the winter where you're struggling to keep the room warm enough to not freeze to death. But move that same rig into a place like Florida or Texas, in the summer, where you gotta blast the AC constantly just to not be drentched in sweat, and you would be very thankful for that much less heat getting pumped into your room.
So less power on the system, less power spent on AC, more comfortable experience while gaming, and not to mention lower temps can help with better overclocks.
Which the overclock factor imho is way more important than saving money on a power bill.
So in SLI, that's 170w difference.
So by your math that saves $17 a month. But that's not all. That's also 170 watts less heat getting pumped into the room. Sure that doesn't mean much to you if you're living in canada, and gaming in the winter where you're struggling to keep the room warm enough to not freeze to death. But move that same rig into a place like Florida or Texas, in the summer, where you gotta blast the AC constantly just to not be drentched in sweat, and you would be very thankful for that much less heat getting pumped into your room.
So less power on the system, less power spent on AC, more comfortable experience while gaming, and not to mention lower temps can help with better overclocks.
Which the overclock factor imho is way more important than saving money on a power bill.
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Uhm... So they're saving money on these... Hard to believe nVidia would use a 256bit interconnect to the GDDR5 on a "high end" card. They had to push the VRAM to 7Ghz in order to not choke the GPU it seems.
It's a weird move in my book. Maybe Apple's takeover TSMC is hurting their design.
Well, in any case, until no benchies I'll just stay un-surprised.
Cheers!
It's a weird move in my book. Maybe Apple's takeover TSMC is hurting their design.
Well, in any case, until no benchies I'll just stay un-surprised.
Cheers!
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zanny
September 18, 2014 8:34:04 PM
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This text sound like: "We were not capable to improve the performance considerably, BUT at least we reduce the power output, so what about pay more $550 to 'save' money?"The x80 cards are always overpriced because they are bling products. But having 290 performance at 145w is a pretty tangible achievement. The thing is, Nvidia is repeating the 600 series - AMD tech cannot compete clock for clock and watt for watt since they are still on GCN 1.3 and Maxwell is a tangible change, so they pulled the 680 again with the 980. Hence the m204 nomenclature and all.
You also need to remember though that any video card over $300 is insanely enthusiast. The 780ti is still printing them money, so why stop what is not broken.
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bison88
September 18, 2014 8:43:11 PM
They priced that GTX 980 just perfectly (despite the awkward $200). In a couple months the Titan 2 or GTX 980 Ti will drop at $599-$649 and they'll shift it down $100 making anything AMD throws at them in the meantime pointless unless it's a huge leap in all areas.
Would have really liked a GTX 980 @ $449 now instead of having to wait another 5-6 months.
Would have really liked a GTX 980 @ $449 now instead of having to wait another 5-6 months.
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deftonian
September 18, 2014 8:45:39 PM
ratchet256
September 18, 2014 8:50:13 PM
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17seconds said:
$330 for a card as fast as a GTX 780 Ti... AND uses over 100 watts less power? Not bad, price drops incoming everywhere, but who would want anything else?It's $550 for a card as fast as a GTX 780 Ti.
$330 only gets you a GTX 970, which is significantly slower. Should still be a great card though, and better value for money than the 980.
Nope.
970 = about 780 ti performance
980 is definitely better than 780 ti, supposedly it's about 13% better performance than 780 ti, at least that's what the leaked review said.
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The_Icon
September 18, 2014 8:55:38 PM
As a Sapphire TriX R9 290 OC (further OCed) owner, I see no reason to upgrade. However, the big takeaway for this card is it's incredible engineering gone through the card which allows for some serious performance at such a low wattage. Not only it means less power requirements, but less heat and more overclockable. Also, some very neat features in terms of software like new AA, improved gameworks makes it quite attractive. The biggest threat for AMD in my opinion is the GTX 970...that level of performance, efficiency and non-nvidia like pricing can makes it so beautiful.
I always switch brands when it comes to GPUs. I am happy with my AMD card, next time I plan to jump to the green team; not with the maxwell cards, but with the next year's fermi class of GPUs.
I always switch brands when it comes to GPUs. I am happy with my AMD card, next time I plan to jump to the green team; not with the maxwell cards, but with the next year's fermi class of GPUs.
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Geez, why does are we still seeing these "as fast as 780 Ti" comments. When you look at the videcardz.com benchmark graphs, take a moment to notice that:
The stock 980 is almost as fast as the the 780 Ti with a 31% overclock.
The 980 with a 6% overclock is 17% faster than the the 780 Ti with a 6% overclock. The 780.
The 780 was 21% faster than the 680, so if anything the 980 's increase over the 780 is a helluva lot bigger than the 780 over the 680 or the 680 over the 580.
The stock 980 is almost as fast as the the 780 Ti with a 31% overclock.
The 980 with a 6% overclock is 17% faster than the the 780 Ti with a 6% overclock. The 780.
The 780 was 21% faster than the 680, so if anything the 980 's increase over the 780 is a helluva lot bigger than the 780 over the 680 or the 680 over the 580.
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Tom's seems to be the only place that doesn't have their review up. And yes the $330 EVGA GTX 970 ACX SC is every bit as fast as a now discontinued $600 GTX 780 Ti, not to mention how it fares against a $500, soon to be $400, 290X.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_...
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ratchet256 said:
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17seconds said:
$330 for a card as fast as a GTX 780 Ti... AND uses over 100 watts less power? Not bad, price drops incoming everywhere, but who would want anything else?It's $550 for a card as fast as a GTX 780 Ti.
$330 only gets you a GTX 970, which is significantly slower. Should still be a great card though, and better value for money than the 980.
Nope.
970 = about 780 ti performance
980 is definitely better than 780 ti, supposedly it's about 13% better performance than 780 ti, at least that's what the leaked review said.
Nope. The GTX 970 is a little faster than the GTX 780, but it's definitely slower than the GTX 780 Ti. Just like the GTX 980 is a little faster than the GTX 780 Ti. In terms of performance, this launch is not a big step forward. But you get a bit more performance and much lower power consumption at a lower price, which is impressive considering they're still stuck with ancient 28nm tech.
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zxt827
September 18, 2014 9:17:20 PM
Free2play_noobs
September 18, 2014 9:45:38 PM
Linnaeus
September 18, 2014 9:47:36 PM
Rexer
September 18, 2014 10:07:56 PM
Rexer
September 18, 2014 10:12:28 PM
gigga101
September 18, 2014 10:27:43 PM
Marl0w
September 18, 2014 10:58:52 PM
Rexer
September 18, 2014 11:11:20 PM
Keithian
September 18, 2014 11:16:29 PM
This is a no brainer. If you already have an Nvidia 780 or 780 TI then you do not need to upgrade to either of these. However, if you have anything before those it is more than worth the upgrade for multiple reasons. I'm personally going to wait for the next version which is probably going to be the 980 TI in preparation for the consumer version of oculus rift :-)
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@sakkura 970 is far ahead of GTX780 and within 5% of 780ti.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_...
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10tacle
September 18, 2014 11:28:32 PM
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mfox666
September 18, 2014 11:31:14 PM
Why is it that my fav tech site - ie. Toms is always so SLOW to do reviews on GPU's?
Other sites already have reviews up for this card.
Can someone from Toms please cast some light on WHY your GPU reviews especially for Flagship GPU releases are always so late? The same exact problem happened with the R9-290x as well.
Other sites already have reviews up for this card.
Can someone from Toms please cast some light on WHY your GPU reviews especially for Flagship GPU releases are always so late? The same exact problem happened with the R9-290x as well.
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Rexer
September 18, 2014 11:31:22 PM
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I just bought the triple fan Gigabyte 760... FFFFFFF Maybe I should return it? So the story goes. 2 years ago, I bought a HD7950, thinking it'll last me to 2016. Just 4 years. In 2012, it was the top of the line card from AMD. I spent those years doing everything I can to stay up with the BF 3 & 4 gamers. OC'd it, modified the cooling system with fans, air dams, and watercooling. It was so tired when the psu took it out, I didn't have words for it's death, but the power hate from above, for the Coursair RM 750 psu. Just 2 years. That's how long my 7950 lasted.
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gio2vanni86
September 18, 2014 11:31:57 PM
10tacle
September 18, 2014 11:42:35 PM
qlum
September 18, 2014 11:54:32 PM
Toms doesn't have to be the first, if you want a review fast you can look around the internet however toms is one of the most in dept which does take more time and really I don't mind. If I want info fast I am going to look elsewhere and there are a 1000 places to look. One more outlet telling the same story is not going to change anything here.
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jasonelmore
September 19, 2014 12:36:33 AM
B4vB5
September 19, 2014 12:41:26 AM
ferooxidan
September 19, 2014 1:31:27 AM
It will be good to see AMD bring a competing product to market, not because you would necessarily want to buy it but it would push Nvidia to drop prices on these cards and release something better just like they dropped the price of GTX 770 and 780 and released the GTX 780 Ti after the release of the R9 290 and 290X.
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leeb2013 said:
The problem is that amd can't compete on power without completely ripping up gcn architecture. They are simply unable to make efficient gpus or cpus and have to resort to brute force. It hasn't always been like that. The HD 5000 series were amazing. The competing product from Nvidia was the GeForce 400 series and they couldn't touch AMD/ATI for efficiency. I think Nvidia learn't a valuable lesson out of that and have come a very long way since then.
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ohim
September 19, 2014 3:51:23 AM
N.Broekhuijsen said:
Nvidia has launched its all-new GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 graphics cards, which come packed full of new features and deliver this at a much lower TDP than before.Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards : Read more
but it will break your wallet ... Don`t get me wrong .. i like this lower power consumption idea but for guys who already have a 780 or something similar getting this card for lower power bills .. at the cost of high price in the first place makes no sense ..since you`ll be spending your economy on the card itself ...
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vertexx said:
So no full review yet? No NVidia cards on the "Best GPUs for the Money" charts for the past 3 months gets you guys sandbagged?The GT 730 is the only card that got a full recommendation on that list this month.
The list though is all about performance per dollar, which is where AMD excels.
The list doesn't take into account Nvidia only features, power usage, heat, noise or quality of drivers which are all the reasons people keep buying Nvidia.
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September 19, 2014 4:47:35 AM
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September 19, 2014 4:50:10 AM
Innocent_Bystander
September 19, 2014 5:07:52 AM
I like this one. Overclocking should be a lot easier to accomplish with these new cards, or if you're like me and like to run them at stock, the noise levels (on an already excellent cooler) should be a fair bit lower. Tack $200 savings on a 780Ti for roughly the same performance and it's an attractive package.
It should also give NVidia some competitive agility to OC the Ti version significantly when they respond to the Radeon 390's.
Overall a good package. Well done!
It should also give NVidia some competitive agility to OC the Ti version significantly when they respond to the Radeon 390's.
Overall a good package. Well done!
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CBA to read through all of these. Just gonna correct the most common misconceptions that the comment thread is being flooded with.
1) GTX 970 is amazing. Hexus.net did a test of EVGA factory-OCd one and it's within 5% of the stock GTX 980, go figure. Beast of a card, upgrading to if from my 560 Ti when I can have a friend bring it to me from the US. Unless GTX 960 comes out and costs less (like $250 which I got my 560 Ti for) and can be factory OCd to stock 970 level
2) Maxwell architecture fixed the issue of narrow memory bus crippling performance by adding a considerable amount of L2 cache to the GPU. A 256-bit bus doesn't SOUND good, but the performance is just as good or better than a Titan with its 384-bit.
3) Lolwut, dropping TDP to 145W isn't worth it on GTX 970? Get real, the closes card out there in terms of TDP is GTX 670 with 170 W, and it has HALF the performance. Maxwell is an amazing breakthrough, you can now build badass Mini ITX gaming rigs wihtout even thinking of water cooling (except maybe for CPU)! Who was it there who wanted to take two 670s in SLI for $700? 10tacle? Well, you'd SERIOUSLY lose out. Factory OCd 970 is double performance with less power consumption than a SINGLE 670 and costs only about $350. How about that?
For real, guys, when are you going to study the new architecture and its benchmarks a little bit before bashing what you think isn't good? NVIDIA isn't stupid, there's a reason there's a Maxwell in every decent laptop with dedicated graphics and not... whatever AMD calls its most recent cards, I'm sick of trying to follow every new code name they cook up every month or two.
1) GTX 970 is amazing. Hexus.net did a test of EVGA factory-OCd one and it's within 5% of the stock GTX 980, go figure. Beast of a card, upgrading to if from my 560 Ti when I can have a friend bring it to me from the US. Unless GTX 960 comes out and costs less (like $250 which I got my 560 Ti for) and can be factory OCd to stock 970 level
2) Maxwell architecture fixed the issue of narrow memory bus crippling performance by adding a considerable amount of L2 cache to the GPU. A 256-bit bus doesn't SOUND good, but the performance is just as good or better than a Titan with its 384-bit.
3) Lolwut, dropping TDP to 145W isn't worth it on GTX 970? Get real, the closes card out there in terms of TDP is GTX 670 with 170 W, and it has HALF the performance. Maxwell is an amazing breakthrough, you can now build badass Mini ITX gaming rigs wihtout even thinking of water cooling (except maybe for CPU)! Who was it there who wanted to take two 670s in SLI for $700? 10tacle? Well, you'd SERIOUSLY lose out. Factory OCd 970 is double performance with less power consumption than a SINGLE 670 and costs only about $350. How about that?
For real, guys, when are you going to study the new architecture and its benchmarks a little bit before bashing what you think isn't good? NVIDIA isn't stupid, there's a reason there's a Maxwell in every decent laptop with dedicated graphics and not... whatever AMD calls its most recent cards, I'm sick of trying to follow every new code name they cook up every month or two.
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