Build Your Own AIO PC With Desktop Components
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exfileme
September 24, 2014 12:51:15 PM
Here's an AIO chassis built for desktop components.
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TechyInAZ
September 24, 2014 1:24:18 PM
iknowhowtofixit
September 24, 2014 1:27:58 PM
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kawininjazx
September 24, 2014 1:48:30 PM
RedJaron
September 24, 2014 2:17:18 PM
CaptainTom
September 24, 2014 3:16:11 PM
everygamer
September 24, 2014 3:18:47 PM
whiteodian
September 24, 2014 3:42:59 PM
RedJaron
September 24, 2014 3:51:41 PM
DarkSable
September 24, 2014 4:15:31 PM
Look at the picture, though...
I'm 99% positive those are mounting holes for VESA.
I have no idea how it can provide structural integrity to that, but if it can, that's a pretty cool option!
My only complaint (Aside from wanting a 1440p or 120Hz option as well as a Matte screen option) is that it only has one DVI and one VGA.
Give me at least one other port, preferably a displayport, so that I can use this as a second monitor and then swing it around for when guests come over. I would absolutely buy it if that were the case.
I'm 99% positive those are mounting holes for VESA.
I have no idea how it can provide structural integrity to that, but if it can, that's a pretty cool option!
My only complaint (Aside from wanting a 1440p or 120Hz option as well as a Matte screen option) is that it only has one DVI and one VGA.
Give me at least one other port, preferably a displayport, so that I can use this as a second monitor and then swing it around for when guests come over. I would absolutely buy it if that were the case.
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RedJaron
September 24, 2014 4:25:35 PM
Hmm, I looked again ( at the pics on Mono's own site, ) and it does look like it's got the hole spacing, but like you said, I don't know how plastic mesh could support the weight. Unless that back side is a metal grill, I wouldn't trust it for anything. It's also right below the GPU extension, so you're limited in the stands that can actually mount there.
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Au_equus
September 24, 2014 5:54:30 PM
beninchi
September 24, 2014 6:14:33 PM
DarkSable
September 24, 2014 6:29:47 PM
Au_equus said:
The larger screen/chassis should be able to support longer cards. eg the 27" screen has 5" more horizontally. 245mm (~9.5") limits the cards this chassis can hold.That would be very nice - I was bummed to see my 670 wouldn't fit in there. (EVGA FTW, built on a 680 PCB, so it's the one of the only 670s that wouldn't.)
I have to say that I'm seriously considering this thing, though... I really wish the 27" one was even 1440p, TN, just so that it would match the size and resolution of my main monitor. If it were, I would buy it in a second and move my media PC into it just to not have to worry about constantly moving a computer that currently isn't in a case.
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DarkSable
September 24, 2014 6:49:18 PM
Well, I just sent them this email:
Here's hoping that the responses come back showing all six's.
Spoiler
Hey Ellen!
I wasn't sure if I should contact you, Simon, Andy, or Billy with this, so I figured since you're the closest to customer relations, I'd let you figure out who to let me bother.
First of all, I just wanted to say that I love that you guys give support for those of us who like quiet computers. I'm also a silence addict, though being a gamer as well, I went down the... slightly less affordable route, and have custom water cooling. Total silence now, aside from some unfortunate, and rather bad, coil whine that I never noticed with my GPU's stock cooler on.
Anyways, I was just reading about your guys' new all in one chassis, and I have to say, I'm really impressed with it. I love the design, I think it looks fairly sleek, and I kinda want one. I just have a few questions for you.
1) Looking at the pictures, there are four holes in the back of the grill. They look very much like standard VESA mounts. Are they? If so, that makes this a much more attractive option for me. If they are, how are they reinforced to be able to support the monitor and computer? On a related note to that, is the back grill metal or plastic?
2) I know this is just a first run of what will be a wonderful product, and I'm sure that the response to this is going to be that you can't comment on future products, but I have two 'wishlist' questions that I'd love to know the answer to.
First, does the 27" monitor have an expanded design to allow for longer graphics cards? If not, are there plans for the future revision to have so? The reason I ask is because the brand new GTX 970 / 980 is basically THE perfect card to put in there, since it runs extraordinarily cool and quiet and has a blower style heatsink... but it's 266.7mm, so it wouldn't fit.
Second, are there plans to make a 27" version with a 1440p screen, and if not, would it be something you strongly consider sending to development? I know there are a LOT of us just on Tom's Hardware who would buy this product in an instant if it were - the 1080p resolution is one of the things holding me back from buying it, as at 27" it's a bit too little, and I'd like it to match the resolution of my main monitor.
If you do, please please please give it a display port or HDMI port as well, so that it can have one hooked up to the graphics card at all times and a free (non-VGA) port so it can be used as a secondary monitor for those of us crazy enough to spend that much money on electronics. (Yes, I'm being serious. I want this as a secondary monitor that I can put my media PC in to use when friends come over / that I can pick up and take to friends' houses.)
If you came out with a Mono Pro AIO that was only 27", had a 1440p screen, slightly adjusted back shroud to allow for longer graphics cards since there's room for it behind a 27" screen, and (this is just hopeful thinking now) support for VESA mounting, even if it were through an adapter for the bottom mount.... I would happily sell my current 24", 120Hz secondary monitor and pay upwards of $650 for it.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to respond to my rather odd questions, but I'm excited about your product and want it to be something that I can recommend to people looking for a gaming computer on the forums I contribute to, and as something that I can buy for myself - being able to have a computer on my ergotron arms that I can just swing over and turn on when friends come over would be HUGE for me.
Don't worry overly much about response time to this email - I'd much rather get detailed responses from the people whose jurisdiction they fall under than a response in a day or two.
Thank you very, very much,
I wasn't sure if I should contact you, Simon, Andy, or Billy with this, so I figured since you're the closest to customer relations, I'd let you figure out who to let me bother.
First of all, I just wanted to say that I love that you guys give support for those of us who like quiet computers. I'm also a silence addict, though being a gamer as well, I went down the... slightly less affordable route, and have custom water cooling. Total silence now, aside from some unfortunate, and rather bad, coil whine that I never noticed with my GPU's stock cooler on.
Anyways, I was just reading about your guys' new all in one chassis, and I have to say, I'm really impressed with it. I love the design, I think it looks fairly sleek, and I kinda want one. I just have a few questions for you.
1) Looking at the pictures, there are four holes in the back of the grill. They look very much like standard VESA mounts. Are they? If so, that makes this a much more attractive option for me. If they are, how are they reinforced to be able to support the monitor and computer? On a related note to that, is the back grill metal or plastic?
2) I know this is just a first run of what will be a wonderful product, and I'm sure that the response to this is going to be that you can't comment on future products, but I have two 'wishlist' questions that I'd love to know the answer to.
First, does the 27" monitor have an expanded design to allow for longer graphics cards? If not, are there plans for the future revision to have so? The reason I ask is because the brand new GTX 970 / 980 is basically THE perfect card to put in there, since it runs extraordinarily cool and quiet and has a blower style heatsink... but it's 266.7mm, so it wouldn't fit.
Second, are there plans to make a 27" version with a 1440p screen, and if not, would it be something you strongly consider sending to development? I know there are a LOT of us just on Tom's Hardware who would buy this product in an instant if it were - the 1080p resolution is one of the things holding me back from buying it, as at 27" it's a bit too little, and I'd like it to match the resolution of my main monitor.
If you do, please please please give it a display port or HDMI port as well, so that it can have one hooked up to the graphics card at all times and a free (non-VGA) port so it can be used as a secondary monitor for those of us crazy enough to spend that much money on electronics. (Yes, I'm being serious. I want this as a secondary monitor that I can put my media PC in to use when friends come over / that I can pick up and take to friends' houses.)
If you came out with a Mono Pro AIO that was only 27", had a 1440p screen, slightly adjusted back shroud to allow for longer graphics cards since there's room for it behind a 27" screen, and (this is just hopeful thinking now) support for VESA mounting, even if it were through an adapter for the bottom mount.... I would happily sell my current 24", 120Hz secondary monitor and pay upwards of $650 for it.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to respond to my rather odd questions, but I'm excited about your product and want it to be something that I can recommend to people looking for a gaming computer on the forums I contribute to, and as something that I can buy for myself - being able to have a computer on my ergotron arms that I can just swing over and turn on when friends come over would be HUGE for me.
Don't worry overly much about response time to this email - I'd much rather get detailed responses from the people whose jurisdiction they fall under than a response in a day or two.
Thank you very, very much,
Here's hoping that the responses come back showing all six's.
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Au_equus
September 24, 2014 6:54:05 PM
DarkSable
September 24, 2014 7:06:25 PM
Au_equus said:
With Maxwell's performance/watt, we may very well see a gtx 980 or 970 on a smaller pcb (if they can cram all the memory on there) as they have a smaller tdp than the gtx 670.You could see a 7-inch 970 on the stock PCB - it's the same size and a very similar layout to the 760. Considering how popular Asus and Evga's "condensed" GTX 670 and 760 cards have been, and that with how efficient the 970 is, I'm guessing we're going to see a mini 970 with that cooler very, very soon.
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DaveinNZ
September 24, 2014 8:07:19 PM
DarkSable
September 24, 2014 8:53:35 PM
DaveinNZ said:
This is a train wreck. It's so ugly my eyeballs are trying to escape from my face. This is the reason industrial design costs money - it avoids the creation of horror shows like this.Yeah, the back of it is not appealing...
But it gives good airflow, and from the front, it looks just fine.
Read the actual linked article and you'll see it's really not that bad. Could it have looked a bit better? Sure... but for what it does, this thing is a HUGE step up over the previous options, like this monstrosity:
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Garry Chen
September 24, 2014 11:24:14 PM
DarkSable
September 25, 2014 1:24:03 AM
Garry Chen said:
I think the drive mount options are stupidBecause most of people will still have 3.5 HDD beside their 2.5 SSD and you only can mount one 3.5 inch and two 2.5 inch thing in there
Well probably gonna buy a 5.25 inch bracket
...SSDs could literally get velcro-ed anywhere they can fit. No need to have them siting in a pretty little adapter, they have no moving parts.
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SirTrollsALot
September 25, 2014 2:15:34 AM
EasyLover
September 25, 2014 5:33:06 AM
schultzter
September 25, 2014 6:32:43 AM
I think this could be really interesting if back cover was modular - so if I used the onboard graphics card then I could swap out that part of the cover with something flat. Ditto for the power supply if I decided to use something external. Otherwise I think I'd just mount a SFF to the VESA points on a regular monitor!
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captaincharisma
September 25, 2014 8:32:11 AM
DarkSable
September 25, 2014 10:06:54 AM
Alright, here we go. I got a response in just 14 hours from these guys, and that's after they were forwarding it between a couple people to get my questions answered by those who knew best what the answers were. I'm pretty impressed.
Here's the gist of the information I received from them:
- They know the holes on the back look like VESA mounting ports, but the back panel is plastic and there's no reinforcing for them, so it's not recommended to try. No future plans to make a hook style VESA mount like a few monitors have, that would attach to the bottom mounting points and come up. (This is mostly because the graphics card slot sticks out the back so half of the reason you would mount it [i.e. to a wall] wouldn't be able to work.)
- The rear panels are exactly the same for all the monitors, so a longer graphics card on the 27" isn't possible. Didn't say anything about if there was a chance that might change with a future revision, though.
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- They like the point of giving the chassis an extra HDMI or Display Port so that it can more easily be used as a second monitor, and will consider it in the future.
All told, sounds like a pretty promising product; I'm excited to see what it looks like a little ways down the road.
Here's the gist of the information I received from them:
- They know the holes on the back look like VESA mounting ports, but the back panel is plastic and there's no reinforcing for them, so it's not recommended to try. No future plans to make a hook style VESA mount like a few monitors have, that would attach to the bottom mounting points and come up. (This is mostly because the graphics card slot sticks out the back so half of the reason you would mount it [i.e. to a wall] wouldn't be able to work.)
- The rear panels are exactly the same for all the monitors, so a longer graphics card on the 27" isn't possible. Didn't say anything about if there was a chance that might change with a future revision, though.
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This is the first run of the mono AIO chassis. I am hoping in future AIOs we will include a larger resolution especially for the 27” monitor, but I have no time frame of if/when that will happen at this time.- They like the point of giving the chassis an extra HDMI or Display Port so that it can more easily be used as a second monitor, and will consider it in the future.
All told, sounds like a pretty promising product; I'm excited to see what it looks like a little ways down the road.
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DarkSable
September 25, 2014 10:12:31 AM
captaincharisma said:
i think this will be a very niche item. who would this be for? gamer's today will want multiple HDD, SSD's, and GPUs and Monitors with a PC and its not meant for mainstream because every AIO PC is basically a mainstream pc Yes. It will absolutely be niche, and I'm guessing future revisions will let you have two 3.5" hard drives. As for SSDs, they can literally go anywhere they can fit, so that's not too much of a worry.
As for the rest of it, well... there's absolutely nothing stopping you from hooking up multiple monitors, and if you're looking for a product that can be an all in one or a hyper-portable affair, then you aren't going to be looking for multiple graphics cards.
I for one can see several situations this could be useful in:
- College students looking for something that can fit more easily in their dorm that can be taken home with ease.
- People for whom an AIO isn't powerful enough, but don't want a big gaming computer.
- People who want a second computer, but don't want to deal with setting it up every time they need it.
I definitely fall under the last category there. I would absolutely love to have this thing, because it would let me take my (currently built on a plank of wood) media computer, stick it in the back of this thing, and be able to just swivel the monitor when a friend comes over, or to pick it up and take it to a friends' without having to worry about more than two power cables and the mouse and keyboard. That's pretty attractive to me.
So, niche product? Absolutely.
Still a pretty cool one if you're looking for a solution to a problem this can solve? Absolutely.
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tryingmybest2
September 25, 2014 11:13:12 AM
bloodroses75
September 25, 2014 6:00:29 PM
Go to a enough LAN parties and you'll definitely see a market for this. 1 component is much easier to move than a monitor and a case. Plus using desktop parts vs. a traditional AIO or laptop you aren't stuck using laptop parts that can't compete to desktop equivalents or be upgradable down the road.
I had tried to build a similar concept about a year ago using a ribbon cable to put the video card parallel, but did not have access to a way to fabricate cheaply, let alone the risk of having to tear the back off my monitor off as it is not flat at all.
I had tried to build a similar concept about a year ago using a ribbon cable to put the video card parallel, but did not have access to a way to fabricate cheaply, let alone the risk of having to tear the back off my monitor off as it is not flat at all.
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Keenan Johnson
September 26, 2014 10:05:51 PM
Mythos_Man
October 12, 2014 8:41:27 AM
tom2u
October 16, 2014 8:26:51 AM
The power supply is usually the heaviest part of a computer. So is it possible to put it somewhere else? That removes much of the bulk too. The thing has to plug into the wall so its not as if its ever going to be wireless. By using PCI-E ribbons you can position your video card(s) anywhere you want. I doubt if they contemplated that. And why in the world would anyone want to buy something with an monitor you can't choose from? There are about a million to choose from and they force you to buy theirs? This company is idiotic. Sorry. Make a frame that anchors on to the vesa holes in the back of most monitors, mount the power supply elsewhere, and you have something that will work AND take up a fraction of the space if one uses those PCI-E ribbons so the cards don't stick up.
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