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USB 3.1 And Its Disruptive USB Type-C Connector

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October 1, 2014 12:00:01 PM

USB 3.1 brings with it exciting new capabilities in the form of the USB Type-C connector and cables, USB SuperSpeed 10 Gb/s and USB Power Delivery v.2.0.

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October 1, 2014 12:22:21 PM

The biggest thing for me is the orientation-agnostic connector. Like half the times, I am plugging the cable the other way...
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October 1, 2014 1:34:39 PM

So does the 100W power spec mean that it will be able to feed data AND power to a monitor so that the monitor itself won't need any additional cable, simply the USB 3.1 connection to the desktop, because if so that is a HUGE deal.
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October 1, 2014 3:01:48 PM

The 100W is theoretical. But that assumes you have the spare power overhead in the device you wish to draw it from.

It seems unlikely that manufacturers would automatically build in such an overhead given increased costs and power supply sizes. Though I can see certain products making it a selling point, i.e. a docking monitor for business laptops.
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October 1, 2014 5:33:19 PM

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The 100W is theoretical. But that assumes you have the spare power overhead in the device you wish to draw it from.

It seems unlikely that manufacturers would automatically build in such an overhead given increased costs and power supply sizes. Though I can see certain products making it a selling point, i.e. a docking monitor for business laptops.

I believe once the ports and cables become commonplace, manufacturers will build in the overhead (at least on certain ports). The advantage of powering the device via the USB port isn't just the convenience. It means you can use the computer's PSU to act as the AC/DC converter, instead of needing a separate AC adapter power brick for each peripheral.
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October 1, 2014 6:38:56 PM

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speeds in excess of 1 GB/s (that's with a capital "B," mind you), but Ravencraft said that blazing-fast speeds aren't necessary


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"SuperSpeed 10 Gb/s is more than enough performance for the everyday user."


10Gb/s == 1.25GB/s. 1.25 > 1.
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October 1, 2014 7:06:23 PM

After 20+ years of being a tehnician, I suddenly realized recently that current USB ports are actually standard on 99% of computers. The hollow part of the connector is always facing up on the motherboard, even on laptops. Now that I know this, I always get it right! It's handy when reaching in the back of a computer under a desk and trying to blindly hook up a usb cable. I have no idea why I didn't notice this sooner.
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October 1, 2014 8:05:51 PM

@Zanny

Actually Gigabit is equal to 1,000,000,000 bits (~954 MB/s), when a Gigabyte is proclaimed it is actually 1,073,741,824 bits. (8 bits per byte, 1024 bytes per kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes per megabyte etc) so yes, 10 Gb/s < 1GB/s.
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October 1, 2014 9:06:18 PM

Man, screw all the other features, NO MORE plugging the USB in the third try.
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October 1, 2014 9:19:36 PM

We're all pitchforks and torches when ISPs say that we don't want/there is no use for faster internet speed, but when they say that?

I understand that there might not be product available to take advantage, but doesn't making available cutting edge technology foster a use for it?
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October 1, 2014 10:33:57 PM

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Actually Gigabit is equal to 1,000,000,000 bits (~954 MB/s), when a Gigabyte is proclaimed it is actually 1,073,741,824 bits...so yes, 10 Gb/s < 1GB/s.


Cute, but false. Bytes are defined as being collections of 8-bits. This is true whether you believe the Giga prefix means 10^9 or 2^30.
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October 2, 2014 2:08:24 AM

How would anyone plug in the connector the wrong way on USB devices? The thing have it blazoned right on the cables which way is up and which is down, by putting a symbol on the top of the cable.
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October 2, 2014 2:37:48 AM

@Christopher1 When your PC is against the wall, under a desk. Or how about at night, when your're charging your tablet/phone and you don't want to blind yourself turning the lights on.
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October 2, 2014 3:07:28 AM

As for this taking over, I think its great. Europe has already set a date for a standard of ALL Phones to have the same connector by 2017. It looks like, every phone in Europe will be using this.

@Christopher1 Every computer inserts the USB Socket up one way or down the other, so you don't know which one they are using. The cable doesn't matter its the non-standard socket that is the problem!
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October 2, 2014 3:46:29 AM

My chance of plugging the USB cables were always more like 30% (especially in case of rear USB ports in tight spaces or darkness). First you guess the orientation right, but fail to perfectly align it and give up, switching sides. Then you realise the first one was right after all...
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October 2, 2014 4:14:28 AM

you touch the head first before plugging in. simple. that's why i can plug my cable w/o looking and correctly 100% of time
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October 2, 2014 8:34:53 AM

1 GB/s is slower than 10Gb/s
10 Gb/s is equal to 1.25 GB/s

Theoretically, the USB-IF told us, USB SuperSpeed could actually hit speeds in excess of 1 GB/s (that's with a capital "B," mind you), but Ravencraft said that blazing-fast speeds aren't necessary or even practical for most everyday uses. For general consumer products out there today, he said, "SuperSpeed 10 Gb/s is more than enough performance for the everyday user."
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October 2, 2014 9:23:27 AM

Good update damn the convennience... I have to buy everything using usb ports new versions, but still it will be a worth of it!
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October 2, 2014 1:45:55 PM

Was I the only person who learned to glance at the flash drive before plugging in, pointing it the right way up, and plugging in without a hitch? People are so stupid sometimes.
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October 2, 2014 5:30:58 PM

I sure hope all these adapters for the older devices are not super overpriced.
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October 3, 2014 8:14:17 AM

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speeds in excess of 1 GB/s (that's with a capital "B," mind you), but Ravencraft said that blazing-fast speeds aren't necessary


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"SuperSpeed 10 Gb/s is more than enough performance for the everyday user."


10Gb/s == 1.25GB/s. 1.25 > 1.


Good catch. (You, and others.) There was a misunderstanding when I spoke with the USB-IF, and then I got my wires crossed on the speeds. I checked in with them again to get the correct information, and I've updated the article accordingly.
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October 7, 2014 5:06:36 AM

Why not a latching connector? I hate these cables that offer an insecure connection for portable applications. This was an ideal opportunity to incorporate something more robust.
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October 7, 2014 5:46:25 AM

It would appear to this one that enough has been changed in this version from the previous one to call it USB 4.0.
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October 7, 2014 8:47:46 AM

Slesreth said:
It would appear to this one that enough has been changed in this version from the previous one to call it USB 4.0.


I think a lot of people would agree with you there. But the powers-that-be decided against it, for whatever reason.
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