A Ginger in need of Workstation Build Advise

A Polish Ginger

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Approximate Purchase Date: Within the month.... hopefully

Budget Range:$10,000 in total

System Usage: 3D rendering, Animation, Sculpting (Basically a at home studio minus the audio portion).

Are you buying a monitor: Yes- Just one. I have 3 already and just need a bigger middle screen. So I'm replacing the middle 1 (Main).

Parts to Upgrade: Everything except for PSU. PSU is AX1200i Corsair (that I plan on reusing)

Do you need to buy OS: No... I think? I just bought a new copy of Windows 7 so that should not be a problem.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg is the only thing I know, but then again I'm a total scrub so if prices and quality are better be my guest.

Location: 'Murica (U.S.A) Chicago,IL in other words I have a Microcenter not to far... Though I don't see them having much server related items though I could buy all my fans/coolant from there

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU and Quadro (CUDA for Maya and such would go for a FirePro otherwise). But other than that free reign is yours.

Overclocking: Maybe? Is that possible/ Safe to do to Xeons (Remember scrub here)

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: Main Monitor has to be at least 2560x1440 other 2 can be 1920x1080

Additional Comments: This build is going to utilize Zbrush, Maya, and a majority of Adobe products. BTW are the new Xeon processor line worth it? I mean I don't mind spending the money on new products, but all the benchmarks I've seen look like minimal improvement between the E5-2680 v2 and E5-2687 v3. And I definatly want to go Dual CPU so 2 of the v2's should be substantial. Please go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong, but I just see little to gain from rendering and such from the v3's besides a second or 2. Also I know DDR4 is a amazing new improvement but again I just want to know if its worth it, because, like any of us, if we have open RAM slots on the MOBA we fill them, because you can never have to much RAM.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: A group of friends and I are creating a show and I need a powerhouse to render out scene, models, and just about everything video related.

Any help is appreciated, I just need people who know about this kind of thing because I don't want to spend money willy nilly, Thank You.
Sincerely,
A Polish Ginger
 
While it would be nice to play in the $10,000 arena for a machine like that, I think you could get your goals accomplished without going dual v2 or v3 processors. You won't find DDR4 support there either... The rig below sports a Haswell Extreme CPU (8 cores / 16 threads), 32GB of low latency memory (add 32GB more if you wish), a very speedy disk solution, and up to three GPUs. Overclock as you please. The H110 cooler will handle any heat, and the CPU should settle in between 4.1GHz and 4.3GHz with moderate voltage increases (according to reviews anyway). If most of your work is done in Maya then a gaming class GTX 780Ti is your best bang for the buck by far. The 780 Ti will also do well with Adobe products... In the end it is up to you, however the machine below is VERY capable of tackling what seem to be your needs. With the "low" cost here compared to your budget you can easily go with a Quadro and max out the open memory slots.

Maya results => http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/specviewperf-12-workstation-graphics-benchmark,3778-9.html

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($1049.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($111.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($200.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($440.83 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($439.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($439.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H630 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ BL3200PT 60Hz 32.0" Monitor ($659.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $4387.01

For the cool factor... Add water cooling to both GPUs with a pair of each of the parts below (GPU adapter and CPU closed loop H2O kit). This will get you a nice quiet machine with the sound deadening in the case combined with the closed loop setups. Even with a mild overclock you should be able to dial down the fan speeds. The H110 cooler for the CPU will fit up front, and the two H80i coolers should fit on the top of the case. Hose length may have one of those needing to be installed on the rear.
Adapter => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146036
H80i => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181031
 

kanewolf

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This article would seem to say that a FirePro graphics solution would be your best bet.
Board members are too used to picking gaming configurations and NOT workstations.

I would recommend you look at an HP Z840. That is a WORKSTATION. Dual xeons, ECC RAM, and support. If you want to depend on (make money with) hardware rather than tinkering with it, buy a prebuilt workstation. Unfortunately the HP docs don't show a top end FirePro as an option. But you can get 2 K5200s or a K6000 ....
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1680 V3 3.2GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($1889.99 @ Mwave)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($282.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($391.94 @ Adorama)
Memory: Crucial 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($391.94 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($440.83 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital RE4-GP 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital RE4-GP 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY Quadro 6000 6GB Video Card ($1108.26 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell P2815Q 30Hz 28.0" Monitor ($409.99 @ Adorama)
Other: 1200W PSU, already purchased
Total: $5343.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-02 10:37 EDT-0400

also going haswell 8-core.

64 GB RAM
1 TB SSD
4 TB in HDD (and room for many more)
Blu Ray Burner if you need it
dedicated 6GB workstation card
4K monitor
will need more fans in the case, but not listed here.

still well under the budget
 
A Polish Ginger,

Hello again.

Your project has nearly infinite options, all questions of degree of cost /performance but based on variables in use and expectation. I can see this system at two levels, one with a fast 8-core and secondly with a pair of fast 6-core Xeon E5 processors. A really high performance solution using a pair of the new Xeon E5-2643v3 6-cores at 3.4 / 3.7 Ghz would cost about $8,900 leaving only $1,100 for three monitors- not enough. My suggestion is to use a Xeon E5-1680v3 8-core @ 3.2/3.8GHz. In each case, I think it's essential to use a workstation card to have the option for 128X anti-aliasing, stable, artifact-free processing/rendering, and stable viewports. For your uses the new Quadro K5200 is almost unbeatable today (top end AMD Firepros are better for computational uses) and in fact a Quadro K4200 is possibly the best cost/performance GPU.

Here's a system to consider along these lines:

BambiBoom PixelCannon Cadarendercompilagrapharific iWork TurboSignature Extreme ModelBlast 8000

10.2.14

CPU: Xeon E5-1680 v3 8-core @ 3.4 / 3.7 Ghz, 20MB Cache, 135W > $1,723

http://ark.intel.com/products/77912/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1680-v2-25M-Cache-3_00-GHz

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL RL-S12X-24PK-R1 120mm CPU Liquid Cooling System > $80

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-RLS12X

Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SRH-CLN4F-O ATX Server Motherboard LGA 2011 > $420

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182931

Memory: 64GB (4) Samsung DDR4-2133 16GB/2Gx72 ECC/REG CL15 Server Memory > $800 ($200 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D42116G4S

GPU: PNY NVIDIA Quadro K5200 8GB GDDR5 2DVI/2DisplayPorts PCI-Express Video Card > $1.996

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PNY-K5200

Disk 1: Plextor M6e 512GB PCI Express x2 Solid State Drive (MLC) > $506.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PXAG512M6E

Disk 2 and 3: Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST3000NM0023 3TB 7200RPM SAS3/SAS 6.0 GB/s 128MB Enterprise Hard Drive (3.5 inch) > $480 ($240 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-ST40NM3

Optical Disk: LG Black 16x Blu-Ray BDXL SATA Internal rewriter with 3D Playback, Model BH16NS40 > $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136264

Power Supply: Existing

Case: LIAN LI PC-D8000 No Power Supply ATX Full Tower Case (Black) > $400
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-D8000

Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller > $23.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005&cm_re=fan_controller-_-11-992-005-_-Product

Operating System : Existing
_______________________________________

TOTAL = $6411.

Leaving about $3,500 for monitors- which I think is a reasonable budget. For the monitors, there are so many new options in the 2560 X 1440 or X 1600 category. In my view, it's essential to see them in person and get a feel for the image quality, stand adjustments and controls. There's so much emphasis on CPU and GPU which are not really subject to the subjective, but monitors are almost purely a question of taste. The specifications can be deceptive: response times and contrast ratios for me seem to have very little bearing on the image quality. I for one, can't stand milky, pebbly anti-glare coatings, wobbly, non-adjustable stands and fussy controls requiring pressing unseen buttons dozens of times. Probably Samsung, Viewsonic, and ASUS are the ones to see- not in any order of preference- and if you're in/near Chicago and near a Microcenter, a visit seems a worthwhile effort.

If you were after a kind of all-out solution intended for very fast modeling, rendering, and processing of very large and complex files:

BambiBoom PixelCannon Cadarendercompilagrapharific iWork TurboSignature Extreme ModelBlast 9000

10.2.14

CPU: (2) Xeon Processor E5-2643 v3 , 6-core @ 3.4 / 3.7 Ghz, 20MB, 135W > $3,114 ($1,552 ea)

http://ark.intel.com/products/81900/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2643-v3-20M-Cache-3_40-GHz

CPU Cooler: (2) Cooler Master Seidon 120XL RL-S12X-24PK-R1 120mm CPU Liquid Cooling System > $160 ($79 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-RLS12X

Motherboard: Supermicro X10DAi > $400

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10DAi.cfm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182938&cm_re=Supermicro_X10DAi-_-13-182-938-_-Product

Memory: 128GB (8) Samsung DDR4-2133 16GB/2Gx72 ECC/REG CL15 Server Memory > $1,600 ($200 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D42116G4S

GPU: PNY NVIDIA Quadro K5200 8GB GDDR5 2DVI/2DisplayPorts PCI-Express Video Card > $1.996

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PNY-K5200

Disk 1: Plextor M6e 512GB PCI Express x2 Solid State Drive (MLC) > $506.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PXAG512M6E

Disk 2 and 3: Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0033 4TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 128MB Enterprise Hard Drive (3.5 inch) > $580 ($290 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-ST40NM3

Optical Disk: LG Black 16x Blu-Ray BDXL SATA Internal rewriter with 3D Playback, Model BH16NS40 > $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136264

Power Supply: Existing

Case: LIAN LI PC-D8000 No Power Supply ATX Full Tower Case (Black) > $400
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-D8000

Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller > $23.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005&cm_re=fan_controller-_-11-992-005-_-Product

Operating System:
Existing
_______________________________________

TOTAL = $8879.

This would be a very high performance system, but the monitor budget suffers. This could be mitigated if the system was originally built with a single E5-2643v3 (=-$1,552) and 64GB RAM (= -$800), which would make the price about $6,527, leaving the $3,500 for monitors. Yes, there would two less cores, but a bit faster ones. Have the three good monitors and add the second CPU and +64GB RAM in two or three years.


Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro 4000 (2GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system rating = 3923, 2D= 839 / 3D=2048]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys WMP600N WiFi > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

Dell Precision 390 (2005) Xeon x3230 quad core @ 2.67GHz > 8 GB DDR2 ECC 667 > Firepro V4900 (1GB)> 2X WD 320GB> Linksys WMP600N WiFi > Windows 7 Profession 64-bit

2D, 3D CAD, Image Processing, Rendering, Text > Architecture, industrial design, graphic design, written projects





 

logainofhades

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The 5960x is a decent option, if you think you need the 8 cores, otherwise, the 5930k is good. Raid 0 for the SSD, and Raid 5 for the HDD, for storage.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($564.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($111.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD5 WIFI EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($295.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($101.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($101.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($101.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 730T Black ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($459.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($459.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($459.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $4763.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-02 10:49 EDT-0400


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($1039.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($111.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD5 WIFI EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($295.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($101.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($101.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($101.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 730T Black ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($459.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($459.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor ($459.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $5238.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-02 10:52 EDT-0400
 

A Polish Ginger

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Opps I forgot to reply I was to busy researching XD

Well thank you all for the input and I'll be implementing this soon.

Though I realized I probably should not have said I want monitors. Oh well XD. I already have 3 and they work fine so I'm just focusing on internals. I probably will buy 1 27in one (Asus PB218Q) just to replace the Jerry rigged iMac one (Because I have to keep re plugging in the cable every time I start up the computer it works fine its just annoying).

Sincerely,
A Polish Ginger
P.S. to BambiBoom- Why you no answer my messages but answer on forum your mean XD (joking of course).
 

A Polish Ginger

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$10k = getting my '79 bronco done. :lol:

$10,000= A ZX-6R vroom vroom..... But I have plans before that so XxXEliteX420XBob_MarleyXBlazingXxX Workstation first

I'm a bit confused- I've never had a "mean XD" !

:D No I'm just being picky by saying you responded to this fourm but not my message :D so all good fun
 
A Polish Ginger,

Wrote:

":D No I'm just being picky by saying you responded to this forum but not my message :D so all good fun "

In that case- sorry. I thought that I had responded to all the private messages received, the last being September 26th.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

markLambert

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Bambiboom - really studying your posts but trying to purchase an existing built computer for Revit and 3d - any chance you could give me a quick opinion on this listing configuration:

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/sys/4714788673.html

might it be worthwhile or better something like this?

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/syd/4717871427.html

I'm sure this is the wrong place to post this but I'm lost!

If you don't have time I understand and thanks for your hard work.





Hello again.

Your project has nearly infinite options, all questions of degree of cost /performance but based on variables in use and expectation. I can see this system at two levels, one with a fast 8-core and secondly with a pair of fast 6-core Xeon E5 processors. A really high performance solution using a pair of the new Xeon E5-2643v3 6-cores at 3.4 / 3.7 Ghz would cost about $8,900 leaving only $1,100 for three monitors- not enough. My suggestion is to use a Xeon E5-1680v3 8-core @ 3.2/3.8GHz. In each case, I think it's essential to use a workstation card to have the option for 128X anti-aliasing, stable, artifact-free processing/rendering, and stable viewports. For your uses the new Quadro K5200 is almost unbeatable today (top end AMD Firepros are better for computational uses) and in fact a Quadro K4200 is possibly the best cost/performance GPU.

Here's a system to consider along these lines:

BambiBoom PixelCannon Cadarendercompilagrapharific iWork TurboSignature Extreme ModelBlast 8000

10.2.14

CPU: Xeon E5-1680 v3 8-core @ 3.4 / 3.7 Ghz, 20MB Cache, 135W > $1,723

http://ark.intel.com/products/77912/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1680-v2-25M-Cache-3_00-GHz

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL RL-S12X-24PK-R1 120mm CPU Liquid Cooling System > $80

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-RLS12X

Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SRH-CLN4F-O ATX Server Motherboard LGA 2011 > $420

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182931

Memory: 64GB (4) Samsung DDR4-2133 16GB/2Gx72 ECC/REG CL15 Server Memory > $800 ($200 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D42116G4S

GPU: PNY NVIDIA Quadro K5200 8GB GDDR5 2DVI/2DisplayPorts PCI-Express Video Card > $1.996

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PNY-K5200

Disk 1: Plextor M6e 512GB PCI Express x2 Solid State Drive (MLC) > $506.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PXAG512M6E

Disk 2 and 3: Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST3000NM0023 3TB 7200RPM SAS3/SAS 6.0 GB/s 128MB Enterprise Hard Drive (3.5 inch) > $480 ($240 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-ST40NM3

Optical Disk: LG Black 16x Blu-Ray BDXL SATA Internal rewriter with 3D Playback, Model BH16NS40 > $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136264

Power Supply: Existing

Case: LIAN LI PC-D8000 No Power Supply ATX Full Tower Case (Black) > $400
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-D8000

Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller > $23.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005&cm_re=fan_controller-_-11-992-005-_-Product

Operating System : Existing
_______________________________________

TOTAL = $6411.

Leaving about $3,500 for monitors- which I think is a reasonable budget. For the monitors, there are so many new options in the 2560 X 1440 or X 1600 category. In my view, it's essential to see them in person and get a feel for the image quality, stand adjustments and controls. There's so much emphasis on CPU and GPU which are not really subject to the subjective, but monitors are almost purely a question of taste. The specifications can be deceptive: response times and contrast ratios for me seem to have very little bearing on the image quality. I for one, can't stand milky, pebbly anti-glare coatings, wobbly, non-adjustable stands and fussy controls requiring pressing unseen buttons dozens of times. Probably Samsung, Viewsonic, and ASUS are the ones to see- not in any order of preference- and if you're in/near Chicago and near a Microcenter, a visit seems a worthwhile effort.

If you were after a kind of all-out solution intended for very fast modeling, rendering, and processing of very large and complex files:

BambiBoom PixelCannon Cadarendercompilagrapharific iWork TurboSignature Extreme ModelBlast 9000

10.2.14

CPU: (2) Xeon Processor E5-2643 v3 , 6-core @ 3.4 / 3.7 Ghz, 20MB, 135W > $3,114 ($1,552 ea)

http://ark.intel.com/products/81900/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2643-v3-20M-Cache-3_40-GHz

CPU Cooler: (2) Cooler Master Seidon 120XL RL-S12X-24PK-R1 120mm CPU Liquid Cooling System > $160 ($79 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-RLS12X

Motherboard: Supermicro X10DAi > $400

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10DAi.cfm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182938&cm_re=Supermicro_X10DAi-_-13-182-938-_-Product

Memory: 128GB (8) Samsung DDR4-2133 16GB/2Gx72 ECC/REG CL15 Server Memory > $1,600 ($200 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D42116G4S

GPU: PNY NVIDIA Quadro K5200 8GB GDDR5 2DVI/2DisplayPorts PCI-Express Video Card > $1.996

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PNY-K5200

Disk 1: Plextor M6e 512GB PCI Express x2 Solid State Drive (MLC) > $506.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PXAG512M6E

Disk 2 and 3: Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0033 4TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 128MB Enterprise Hard Drive (3.5 inch) > $580 ($290 ea.)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-ST40NM3

Optical Disk: LG Black 16x Blu-Ray BDXL SATA Internal rewriter with 3D Playback, Model BH16NS40 > $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136264

Power Supply: Existing

Case: LIAN LI PC-D8000 No Power Supply ATX Full Tower Case (Black) > $400
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-D8000

Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller > $23.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005&cm_re=fan_controller-_-11-992-005-_-Product

Operating System:
Existing
_______________________________________

TOTAL = $8879.

This would be a very high performance system, but the monitor budget suffers. This could be mitigated if the system was originally built with a single E5-2643v3 (=-$1,552) and 64GB RAM (= -$800), which would make the price about $6,527, leaving the $3,500 for monitors. Yes, there would two less cores, but a bit faster ones. Have the three good monitors and add the second CPU and +64GB RAM in two or three years.


Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro 4000 (2GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system rating = 3923, 2D= 839 / 3D=2048]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys WMP600N WiFi > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

Dell Precision 390 (2005) Xeon x3230 quad core @ 2.67GHz > 8 GB DDR2 ECC 667 > Firepro V4900 (1GB)> 2X WD 320GB> Linksys WMP600N WiFi > Windows 7 Profession 64-bit

2D, 3D CAD, Image Processing, Rendering, Text > Architecture, industrial design, graphic design, written projects





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markLambert,

I would in general have much more confidence in the used Dell Precision T7500. Actually, I'd thought to buy one myself at the time I last changed systems, but ended up finding an unavoidably good bargain on a new HP z420. Precisions are purpose-designed for 3D CAD and scientific work, beautifully made, server-like reliability, quiet, have large power supplies, reasonable performance, parts are plentiful, and even have fantastic support even when purchased used. Go to dell.com and download the manuals, drivers, and BIOS updates free.

Almost magically, you can buy a $10,000 system when three years old for $1,000 as business computers are fully depreciated by that time, still use it for years more, and for almost no cost. Example: In 2010 I bought a 2008 Precision T5400- about $4500 new- for $500, added a 2nd Xeon x5460 ($25, $1,660 new), +12GB RAM ($140, $1,100 new), Windows 7 Ultimate ($70, $300? new), and a Quadro FX 4800 ($150, $1,300 new) for a total investment of something like $1,000. I used this, or at least it was running 16-20 per day for four years without a single component failure and it's still worth say $800. That's equal to about $4.25/month or maybe $.15 per day. In my view that a good value!

As you might notice, I'm a confirmed Dell Precision enthusiast and the T7500 is my first choice. The successor, the T7600 made a significant improvement in performance, but they are quite expensive used when the processors are fast ones. Of course, if your budget is in the $3,000 range these are still good value.

However, my first choice would be a T7500 with the Xeon X5680 (3.33 / 3.6) or X5690 (3.47 / 3.6) six-core processor- preferably two of same to have all those cores to work on rendering, at least 24GB of RAM (DDR3 ECC 1333) , and a workstation GPU such as a Quadro or Firepro. By the way. T7500 have the X58 chipset and use RAM in sets of three modules- 3 X 2GB, 3X4, 3X8 , 6X ... up to 192GB. SEE:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-T7500-2X-X5690-XEON-3-47GHz-6-CORE-12-GB-4X-146-PERC6i-/201198914273?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item2ed863cae1&nma=true&si=kzSGTL0pzBO8HsXEprfXu1qq990%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

A completed listing for a T7500 with two Xeon X5690 CPU's- which are 6-core @ 3.47 /3.6GHz- (and $3,500 new) 12GB RAM, and a Quadro 2000 all for $800. That was probably a good bit over $10,000 new. The Quadro 2000 is not my favorite - sorry favourite, but would do for awhile and then possibly change for a used Quadro K4000 or better yet a new K4200. Also, with two CPU's I'd have minimum of 24GB of RAM, and better yet- 48 or 96GB. I see quite a few offered with 48 and 96GB. That's a nice feature of this kind of system- take it out of the box, load the programs and use it, patiently add even nicer parts- and use it five years for whatever negligible cost. If you ever replace it with a new system, it can sit in the corner and render. I use the much faster quad core HP z420 for modeling and the eight coresT5400 for rendering.

Cheers,

BambiBoom