Windows 10 Will Ship With DirectX 12
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N.Broekhuijsen
October 3, 2014 8:26:09 AM
Unsurprisingly, Windows 10 will be shipping with DirectX 12.
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therogerwilco
October 3, 2014 8:55:47 AM
Innocent_Bystander
October 3, 2014 9:26:59 AM
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MumblinBerk
October 3, 2014 10:58:35 AM
red77star
October 3, 2014 11:26:54 AM
voreo
October 3, 2014 11:32:33 AM
MumblinBerk
October 3, 2014 12:19:48 PM
voreo said:
I loved the transition to 8/8.1 but i would like to see all the flack ms received from 8 vanishThat is very, very unlikely.
I'm hoping the whole event can be used to bring MS and it's CUSTOMERS closer.
It is a learning opportunity. A direction change would be good for everyone.
Distribution of DirectX 12 to existing Win7 users would be an EXCELLENT place to start,
by engendering good will, and begin to re-establish trust with it's loyal customer base.
Again... very, very unlikely.
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IndignantSkeptic
October 3, 2014 12:23:36 PM
dstarr3
October 3, 2014 12:34:08 PM
The_Icon
October 3, 2014 12:52:20 PM
sparkyman215
October 3, 2014 1:21:03 PM
hannibal
October 3, 2014 2:21:58 PM
anxiousinfusion
October 3, 2014 2:57:45 PM
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Sounds great. Looks exciting. Closer access to the hardware layer would be great. But, will MS now deny Win7 users access to DX12, to force migration to 9? Oh, sorry, Win 10?I feel that Windows 7 users are slowly but surely becoming the next generation of stubborn, entitled XP users who never move forward.
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Brainaic
October 3, 2014 3:42:36 PM
belardo
October 3, 2014 4:09:35 PM
tomc100
October 3, 2014 6:44:52 PM
dimar
October 3, 2014 7:21:03 PM
Christopher1
October 3, 2014 10:34:28 PM
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Windows 10 looks like a step in the right direction. I guess businesses refusing to upgrade to 8 forced them to bring back the desktop and start menu. Also, is there a reason other than monetary why dx 12 is exclusive to windows 10?!!!Businesses who were refusing to do that were stupid nitwits.
The ONLY thing that Windows 8 had different than Windows 7 was that they went with a full-screen start menu, which was what they should have done YEARS ago.
No more 'fumbling with folders' in order to find something, just punch in the first few letters of the applications name, if the app was not already pinned to Start... BOOM! Done.
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mahdiameri28
October 3, 2014 11:37:48 PM
SteelCity1981
October 4, 2014 4:19:36 AM
I think it will be exclusive to Windows 10 as their pain selling point for gamers to switch from windows 8/7. Windows 8 is like the new Vista in rep and Windows 7 is like the new XP in rep. MS's main competitor to Windows 10 will be their own Windows 7. I mean business just upgraded within the past year to Windows 7 to xp, so you know they aren't going to upgrade to Windows 10 anytime soon and the vast majority of offices won't even use DirectX in their line of work so upgrading for that purpose alone won't mean anything to them.
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Shin-san
October 4, 2014 9:33:23 AM
Hopefully DirectX 12 will be supported on Windows 7, otherwise we'll get the DirectX 10 problem. This is where people still had Windows XP, and they didn't put DirectX 10 on it. Game makers were nervous about making 2 versions of the PC executable. If they targeted only Windows Vista, then they cut out those running XP.
It seems like DirectX 12 will be on 7. Then again, if they don't put it in 7, OpenGL, Mantle, and whatever else will end up destroying DirectX
It seems like DirectX 12 will be on 7. Then again, if they don't put it in 7, OpenGL, Mantle, and whatever else will end up destroying DirectX
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hannibal
October 4, 2014 10:19:59 AM
Win7 feature upgrade time is over, so not likely... Win8 can get new features some time yet, and 8.1 a little bit longer. And yeas, you are right. It will take long time to see full dx12 support in the games. After 2020 when win7 will be out of security upgrades, the DX12 will get more support, because, there will be movement to new os versions.
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megiv
October 4, 2014 8:53:30 PM
may1
October 4, 2014 10:20:13 PM
fnh
October 5, 2014 8:27:21 AM
josejones
October 5, 2014 12:41:21 PM
josejones said:
LOL, who on earth does Microsoft think they're fooling by skipping Windows 9 and going straight for Windows 10? What's up with that? Have they offered any serious explanation for that? Why not just call it Windows 20 then? One of their reasoning is because of the naming of the legacy Windows.
You can search Windows 9* just by googling Windows 9.
I think they want to avoid that conflict and just went straight to Windows 10.
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mateau
October 5, 2014 10:22:57 PM
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What happened to the Windows 9 release?Did DirectX 12 SLIP!!!!!
One of their reasoning is because of the naming of the legacy Windows.
You can search Windows 9* just by googling Windows 9.
I think they want to avoid that conflict and just went straight to Windows 10.
No, DX12 will be in Windows 10.
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soccerplayer88
October 6, 2014 6:02:08 AM
Eh, I'm not sure why anyone really even cares.
Most developers don't even utilize DX11 to it's potential let alone code for it. Nearly every game that has come out lately still uses DX9. Right now there's roughly just over 100 games that use DX11.
No one will take advantage of DX12 for probably another 3-5 years, and that's if it's more efficient than DX11.
Most developers don't even utilize DX11 to it's potential let alone code for it. Nearly every game that has come out lately still uses DX9. Right now there's roughly just over 100 games that use DX11.
No one will take advantage of DX12 for probably another 3-5 years, and that's if it's more efficient than DX11.
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Urzu1000
October 6, 2014 10:42:09 AM
I've been using Windows 10 for nearly a week now (since day of tp launch), and so far, it feels good to use. Feels a lot like Windows 8.1 with Start8 installed, plus some extra features to sweeten the deal.
For those of you wondering if Microsoft will listen to their customers, I'll share a little bit of knowledge from the technical preview.
The technical preview has an app that is pre-installed where you can directly send feedback to the developers about features suggestions and changes. Furthermore, each of the larger interface changes prompt you to say how you feel about the changes, and then ask if you can think of any way to improve them.
It's clear that Microsoft learned it's mistake with Windows 8 (not so much the operating system itself, but rather at how not listening to customer feedback can kill sales), and they're trying extremely hard to make sure that Windows 10 doesn't suffer the same issue.
That being said, DirectX12 gentlemen.
For those of you wondering if Microsoft will listen to their customers, I'll share a little bit of knowledge from the technical preview.
The technical preview has an app that is pre-installed where you can directly send feedback to the developers about features suggestions and changes. Furthermore, each of the larger interface changes prompt you to say how you feel about the changes, and then ask if you can think of any way to improve them.
It's clear that Microsoft learned it's mistake with Windows 8 (not so much the operating system itself, but rather at how not listening to customer feedback can kill sales), and they're trying extremely hard to make sure that Windows 10 doesn't suffer the same issue.
That being said, DirectX12 gentlemen.
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Zentropa
October 11, 2014 3:55:51 AM
Right because DX11 is flawless and lacks a reason to work any lingering kinks out. I kind of like that marketing ploy, "If you barf out a senseless half-supported buggy software release that requires more work to maintain the guise of 'satisfactory,' why not roll out a new version to deflect attention away from it?"
I'd also like to make six figures making decisions like that. And a pony.
I'd also like to make six figures making decisions like that. And a pony.
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lookanlearn
October 16, 2014 7:54:19 AM
Well; somebody thieved my Windows 7 CHESS Game when I PAID EXTRA to `Upgrade` to Windows 8 and 8.1
I really dont like thieves.
Not all the time-sucking BSoD`s on various PC that were upgraded.
That said; no BSoD`s for three months now....
Windows 8 with the free Shell program turned out to be tollerable.
I really dont like thieves.
Not all the time-sucking BSoD`s on various PC that were upgraded.
That said; no BSoD`s for three months now....
Windows 8 with the free Shell program turned out to be tollerable.
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Urzu1000
October 16, 2014 9:57:07 AM
It's so much easier for someone to complain then for someone to give a compliment. Stop nit-picking over the negatives and take a serious look at all the positive benefits of the thing you're critiquing. Especially before you use it.
I think DirectX12 will be good. I think Windows 10 is good. I think Microsoft releasing DirectX12 only on Windows 10, would be fine.
It's a business. All businesses are in the business of making money. Just because you've gotten used to them upgrading their older operating systems to support new tech, doesn't mean they're obligated to do so.
It's NICE. And they may STILL do it, but the sense of entitlement that people feel towards getting EVERYTHING they want on their old operating systems is silly. And for that matter, getting everything they want in general.
The only issue is the points people made above about game developers not wanting to support it if it's a niche.
We have to roll with the punches of progress people.
I think DirectX12 will be good. I think Windows 10 is good. I think Microsoft releasing DirectX12 only on Windows 10, would be fine.
It's a business. All businesses are in the business of making money. Just because you've gotten used to them upgrading their older operating systems to support new tech, doesn't mean they're obligated to do so.
It's NICE. And they may STILL do it, but the sense of entitlement that people feel towards getting EVERYTHING they want on their old operating systems is silly. And for that matter, getting everything they want in general.
The only issue is the points people made above about game developers not wanting to support it if it's a niche.
We have to roll with the punches of progress people.
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lookanlearn
October 16, 2014 10:18:46 AM
Urzu1000 said:
It's so much easier for someone to complain then for someone to give a compliment. Stop nit-picking over the negatives and take a serious look at all the positive benefits of the thing you're critiquing. Especially before you use it.I think DirectX12 will be good. I think Windows 10 is good. I think Microsoft releasing DirectX12 only on Windows 10, would be fine.
It's a business. All businesses are in the business of making money. Just because you've gotten used to them upgrading their older operating systems to support new tech, doesn't mean they're obligated to do so.
It's NICE. And they may STILL do it, but the sense of entitlement that people feel towards getting EVERYTHING they want on their old operating systems is silly. And for that matter, getting everything they want in general.
The only issue is the points people made above about game developers not wanting to support it if it's a niche.
We have to roll with the punches of progress people.
If I PAY Extra, I actually want More.
That may seem silly to Microsoft employees and shareholders; but not to hundreds of millions of other people.
P.S.
LinuxMint 17 x64 is FREE and has as much as MS has to offer; and it has five years support... and a ton of free programs to go with it.
Business need to understand that when they have BSoD stiffed their loyal customers for decades, they eventually get some blowback; soI dont expect MS will have a roaring success with DX12 or anything else mentioned because;-
(a) DX12 does nothing for most Office applications the VAST Majority of computers are used for.
(b) Gamers already own millions of DX 11 Graphics cards and are unlikely to gamble on Microsoft early anymore (even if the GTX 970~980 cards are pretty good).
(c) Steambox and the rest.
I was amused how Microsoft ignored my Windows 8 Beta comments which came true; comments I provided MS in feedback months before the Market version was released. How they missed out on the opportunities of my suggestions though...
...............................and now online you can find MS begging for `customer `Ideas` ~suggestions` concepts.... Like carpetbaggers.
In fact Microsoft are now where I said they would be at during a 1999 paper I submitted as a Student of Business while at Uni.
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