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October 8, 2014 4:09:31 AM

Hello. I decided to build a PC. I'll be buying parts from Amazon Italy so please make sure you check for parts there when making a suggestion :) 

My original build had an FX.8350 and a R9 280x but I decided to change some things. My budget is 800 euros.

How will this preform and is there anything I should change

Intel core i5 4690k
ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

I'm not sure about the Power Supply, how will it preform?

I'm not sure which case I should go with.
BitFenix Comrade http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/bitfenix-case-bfccom100...

or

NZXT Phantom 410 (White) http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-caph410w1

My biggest problem is choosing a Graphics Card:

Which one?
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr...
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9270xd...
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n7602gd5...
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2g...
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx750t...

Also, where can I get the drivers for my build?

Thank you!
:) 

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a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2014 5:37:07 AM

why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.
October 8, 2014 6:16:01 AM

prit87 said:
why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.


Because I don't have the money for the i5 4690k and the 280x. It would be almost 100 euros out of my budget. So should I go with the FX-8350 and 280x or with the i5 4690k and a different card?

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October 8, 2014 8:12:56 AM

Anyone have any suggestions?
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2014 8:24:22 AM

TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.


Because I don't have the money for the i5 4690k and the 280x. It would be almost 100 euros out of my budget. So should I go with the FX-8350 and 280x or with the i5 4690k and a different card?



For the long run I would get a stronger processor. If you get a stronger processor you can get a better Graphics Card down the line. Intel gives more power to the GPU than AMD.

So for the long run Intel is the way to go!
October 8, 2014 8:32:01 AM

Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.



Because I don't have the money for the i5 4690k and the 280x. It would be almost 100 euros out of my budget. So should I go with the FX-8350 and 280x or with the i5 4690k and a different card?



For the long run I would get a stronger processor. If you get a stronger processor you can get a better Graphics Card down the line. Intel gives more power to the GPU than AMD.

So for the long run Intel is the way to go!


Which Graphics Card would you suggest, from the one I listed in my original post. Also I listed two cases, which one would you suggest. What is your opinion on the PSU I listed. Is it good or will it explode and put my house on fire?

a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2014 8:50:23 AM

TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.



Because I don't have the money for the i5 4690k and the 280x. It would be almost 100 euros out of my budget. So should I go with the FX-8350 and 280x or with the i5 4690k and a different card?



For the long run I would get a stronger processor. If you get a stronger processor you can get a better Graphics Card down the line. Intel gives more power to the GPU than AMD.

So for the long run Intel is the way to go!


Which Graphics Card would you suggest, from the one I listed in my original post. Also I listed two cases, which one would you suggest. What is your opinion on the PSU I listed. Is it good or will it explode and put my house on fire?



Depends on what your Resolution is, 760 beats the R9 270x in 1080P while the 270X beats the 760 on higher resolutions.

I would also recommend the BitFenix Comrade. Great cooling and management and fits your card. It also is easier to install your HDD's.
While the NZXT Phantom 410 is good it can only fit 230mm card With Drive Cages, 305mm cards Without Drive Cages so it can fit your card with the loss of a drive cage.

Also that PSU is a TIER ONE PSU. So its perfect :) 
October 8, 2014 8:59:20 AM

Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.



Because I don't have the money for the i5 4690k and the 280x. It would be almost 100 euros out of my budget. So should I go with the FX-8350 and 280x or with the i5 4690k and a different card?



For the long run I would get a stronger processor. If you get a stronger processor you can get a better Graphics Card down the line. Intel gives more power to the GPU than AMD.

So for the long run Intel is the way to go!


Which Graphics Card would you suggest, from the one I listed in my original post. Also I listed two cases, which one would you suggest. What is your opinion on the PSU I listed. Is it good or will it explode and put my house on fire?



Depends on what your Resolution is, 760 beats the R9 270x in 1080P while the 270X beats the 760 on higher resolutions.

I would also recommend the BitFenix Comrade. Great cooling and management and fits your card. It also is easier to install your HDD's.
While the NZXT Phantom 410 is good it can only fit 230mm card With Drive Cages, 305mm cards Without Drive Cages so it can fit your card with the loss of a drive cage.

Also that PSU is a TIER ONE PSU. So its perfect :) 


Does the R9 280 preform better than the 760 and the 270x? http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr...

Also can you explain to me what's a Tier One PSU?

October 8, 2014 9:01:29 AM

Also, isn't the Phantom a bigger case?
Nevermind
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2014 9:48:52 AM

TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.



Because I don't have the money for the i5 4690k and the 280x. It would be almost 100 euros out of my budget. So should I go with the FX-8350 and 280x or with the i5 4690k and a different card?



For the long run I would get a stronger processor. If you get a stronger processor you can get a better Graphics Card down the line. Intel gives more power to the GPU than AMD.

So for the long run Intel is the way to go!


Which Graphics Card would you suggest, from the one I listed in my original post. Also I listed two cases, which one would you suggest. What is your opinion on the PSU I listed. Is it good or will it explode and put my house on fire?



Depends on what your Resolution is, 760 beats the R9 270x in 1080P while the 270X beats the 760 on higher resolutions.

I would also recommend the BitFenix Comrade. Great cooling and management and fits your card. It also is easier to install your HDD's.
While the NZXT Phantom 410 is good it can only fit 230mm card With Drive Cages, 305mm cards Without Drive Cages so it can fit your card with the loss of a drive cage.

Also that PSU is a TIER ONE PSU. So its perfect :) 


Does the R9 280 preform better than the 760 and the 270x? http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr...

Also can you explain to me what's a Tier One PSU?



R9 280 is the fastest GPU in your given list and tier 1 PSU is the rating of the PSU its the best rated PSU .
and xfx 550 watt would be enough for r9 280 and its a very good PSU.
October 8, 2014 10:00:58 AM

prit87 said:
TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
why are you downgrading your GPU and the cards you have mentioned are all weaker than r9 280x.

Plus get a z97 motherboard with i5 4690k get 2x4 gb ram instead of single 8 gb dual channel is much faster than single .

550 watt PSU is okk for r9 280x if you dont OC anything.

any questions feel free to ask.



Because I don't have the money for the i5 4690k and the 280x. It would be almost 100 euros out of my budget. So should I go with the FX-8350 and 280x or with the i5 4690k and a different card?



For the long run I would get a stronger processor. If you get a stronger processor you can get a better Graphics Card down the line. Intel gives more power to the GPU than AMD.

So for the long run Intel is the way to go!


Which Graphics Card would you suggest, from the one I listed in my original post. Also I listed two cases, which one would you suggest. What is your opinion on the PSU I listed. Is it good or will it explode and put my house on fire?



Depends on what your Resolution is, 760 beats the R9 270x in 1080P while the 270X beats the 760 on higher resolutions.

I would also recommend the BitFenix Comrade. Great cooling and management and fits your card. It also is easier to install your HDD's.
While the NZXT Phantom 410 is good it can only fit 230mm card With Drive Cages, 305mm cards Without Drive Cages so it can fit your card with the loss of a drive cage.

Also that PSU is a TIER ONE PSU. So its perfect :) 


Does the R9 280 preform better than the 760 and the 270x? http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr...

Also can you explain to me what's a Tier One PSU?



R9 280 is the fastest GPU in your given list and tier 1 PSU is the rating of the PSU its the best rated PSU .
and xfx 550 watt would be enough for r9 280 and its a very good PSU.


So I should go with the R9 280?
Also, is it worth getting this SSD? http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-internal-hard-dri...
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2014 10:07:14 AM

yes among those card the r9 280 is the fastest and have the most vram so you should go for it.

If you are in a budget go for the crucial SSD they are the most bang for buck ssd of 2014.

October 8, 2014 10:14:03 AM

prit87 said:
yes among those card the r9 280 is the fastest and have the most vram so you should go for it.

If you are in a budget go for the crucial SSD they are the most bang for buck ssd of 2014.



These 4 SSDs are the ones I can afford. Which one do you recommed:
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-d...
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-d...
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-d...
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-internal-hard-dri...

a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2014 10:27:44 AM

TotsNotYou said:


Thanks! This is my final build http://it.pcpartpicker.com/p/rXbLbv
Opinions? How will it preform?
Where can I get the drivers for the motherboard and the video card? Do I need drivers for anything else? Could you give me a link to the necessary drivers?



the board you have chosen is not compatible with the CPu first of all it would not support the CPU without a BIOS update and 2ndly its not an OC capable board for your k processor.
here is a board for you close to your budget.
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97m...
And get 2x4 gb ram in pair instead of a single 8 gb stick you will get 20% performance increase using dual channel.
October 8, 2014 10:33:24 AM

prit87 said:
TotsNotYou said:


Thanks! This is my final build http://it.pcpartpicker.com/p/rXbLbv
Opinions? How will it preform?
Where can I get the drivers for the motherboard and the video card? Do I need drivers for anything else? Could you give me a link to the necessary drivers?



the board you have chosen is not compatible with the CPu first of all it would not support the CPU without a BIOS update and 2ndly its not an OC capable board for your k processor.
here is a board for you close to your budget.
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97m...
And get 2x4 gb ram in pair instead of a single 8 gb stick you will get 20% performance increase using dual channel.


I'm not going to add a 2x4 GB of RAM as it is more expensive. Later on I'll add another stick of 8GB. How about the drivers? Where can I get the drivers for my motherboard and video card? Do I need drivers for anything else? Could you give me a link to the drivers?
October 8, 2014 10:45:46 AM

Also, can you recommed a different power supply as the one I picked is not available
October 8, 2014 10:55:46 AM

The problem with the PSU I originally picked is when I click "Buy" it takes me to a Graphics Card
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2014 10:57:37 AM

i am afraid no xfx is the cheapest brand with good quality PSu if you are looking for modular and semi modualar PSu the seasonic one are more pricy.
October 8, 2014 11:01:35 AM

prit87 said:
i am afraid no xfx is the cheapest brand with good quality PSu if you are looking for modular and semi modualar PSu the seasonic one are more pricy.


Ok, I guees I'll give it a few days to see if it shows up, if not I'm going to get the Seasonic one. This SSD is on sale, is it worth getting? http://www.amazon.it/Samsung-MZ-7TE120BW-SSD-840-Solo/d...
a b U Graphics card
October 9, 2014 9:56:28 AM

The samsung 840 is a good one.

the corsair cx PSu are poor and you dont really need a 750 watt PSu but if you going for 750 and evga go for either B2 and G2 models.
October 10, 2014 5:05:07 AM

prit87 said:
The samsung 840 is a good one.

the corsair cx PSu are poor and you dont really need a 750 watt PSu but if you going for 750 and evga go for either B2 and G2 models.



Could you give me a link on Amazon Italy to a PSU you recommed, just make sure it's modular or semi-modular.
Also, I was thinking about going with the Phantom case I listed as it has more fans and better cable managment. What do you think?
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2014 6:54:57 AM

TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
yea sure.

http://www.amazon.it/XFX-650W-Series-Bronze-P1-650X-XXB...

yes phantom 410 is a great case good looks , comes with 3 fans and a fan controller.


Would you recommed the Phantom 410 over the NZXT S340?


The NZXT S340 is better in cable management, It was ranked as one of the "Things that don't suck" By Linus from LinusTechTips.

It can support radiators, has a PSU shroud and is made for cable management, can also support 2 Double Slot cards and has excellent cooling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65-pqVTykMc

Linus Review here.
October 10, 2014 7:27:44 AM

Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
yea sure.

http://www.amazon.it/XFX-650W-Series-Bronze-P1-650X-XXB...

yes phantom 410 is a great case good looks , comes with 3 fans and a fan controller.


Would you recommed the Phantom 410 over the NZXT S340?


The NZXT S340 is better in cable management, It was ranked as one of the "Things that don't suck" By Linus from LinusTechTips.

It can support radiators, has a PSU shroud and is made for cable management, can also support 2 Double Slot cards and has excellent cooling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65-pqVTykMc

Linus Review here.


Yes, I have seen his review, that's why I am asking if he is right
I want to get second opinion, not just by Linus, if you know what I mean :) 
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2014 8:20:55 AM

TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
yea sure.

http://www.amazon.it/XFX-650W-Series-Bronze-P1-650X-XXB...

yes phantom 410 is a great case good looks , comes with 3 fans and a fan controller.


Would you recommed the Phantom 410 over the NZXT S340?


The NZXT S340 is better in cable management, It was ranked as one of the "Things that don't suck" By Linus from LinusTechTips.

It can support radiators, has a PSU shroud and is made for cable management, can also support 2 Double Slot cards and has excellent cooling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65-pqVTykMc

Linus Review here.


Yes, I have seen his review, that's why I am asking if he is right
I want to get second opinion, not just by Linus, if you know what I mean :) 


I like it, is that not enough? </3

Also rated by Joan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hozx1o188Y

Pros Outweigh the cons,

There is no Reset Button(WTF!)
No 5.25 in Drive Bays for your DVD DRIVE(WTF!!??)

TF NZXT??? It's still a nice case... I have no problems with the Dvd drive however since I use a External DVD drive for my build anyways...

The case is built well for what it's intended. But if this turns you off then I can recommend you another case.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 12, 2014 1:37:59 AM

Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
TotsNotYou said:
prit87 said:
yea sure.

http://www.amazon.it/XFX-650W-Series-Bronze-P1-650X-XXB...

yes phantom 410 is a great case good looks , comes with 3 fans and a fan controller.


Would you recommed the Phantom 410 over the NZXT S340?


The NZXT S340 is better in cable management, It was ranked as one of the "Things that don't suck" By Linus from LinusTechTips.

It can support radiators, has a PSU shroud and is made for cable management, can also support 2 Double Slot cards and has excellent cooling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65-pqVTykMc

Linus Review here.


Yes, I have seen his review, that's why I am asking if he is right
I want to get second opinion, not just by Linus, if you know what I mean :) 


I like it, is that not enough? </3

Also rated by Joan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hozx1o188Y

Pros Outweigh the cons,

There is no Reset Button(WTF!)
No 5.25 in Drive Bays for your DVD DRIVE(WTF!!??)

TF NZXT??? It's still a nice case... I have no problems with the Dvd drive however since I use a External DVD drive for my build anyways...

The case is built well for what it's intended. But if this turns you off then I can recommend you another case.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The monitor I have at my house is horrible so I made a build with a monitor.
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
Is the i3 4130 good for gaming and some light video editing or should I go for the FX-6300 or the FX-8350?
Also the 280 I picked is 80 euros cheaper than the 280x. Is there a major difference between the 280 and the 280x that is worth the extra 80 euros?
a b U Graphics card
October 12, 2014 3:22:03 AM

The difference between r9 280 and r9 280x is about 10 fps.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor (€118.00 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard (€96.81 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (€78.21 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.50 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card (€249.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (€74.28 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€73.85 @ Amazon Italia)
Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor (€114.74 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €854.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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