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October 13, 2014 7:14:08 PM

Hello,

Just discovered this site when I was looking for parts to build my first PC and I gotta say, a lot of helpful reply's and recommendations.

Everything that I listed is available at a local retailer store so I can just go there and buy it instead of waiting for it through the mail which could possibly get damaged.

Here is my list:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rth2zy

I will appreciate any recommendations for a better or cheaper part.

Thank you,
Alex

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a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:17:15 PM

WHY ARE YOU BUYING SUCH AN OVERKILL PSU!!!

Here is a better build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($233.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($355.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.48 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1457.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 22:16 EDT-0400

Notice the video card change? And you can get it from any brand, Asus, MSI, etc.
October 13, 2014 7:18:35 PM

Yea, I thought the Power Supply would be too much. As other have suggested about 700-900 in some other threads.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:20:03 PM

Ryuko said:
Yea, I thought the Power Supply would be too much. As other have suggested about 700-900 in some other threads.


With the GTX 970 graphics card I put in my modified build above, you could go with a 650 watt PSU perfectly fine. DO not spend $300 on a power supply, such a waste of money. Even 750 that I put in is a bit much.
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:20:30 PM

Here's my build:
Better processor
A bit faster ram
No need for such a large HDD
Added an SSD
High quality case

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.80 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($128.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.66 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.48 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1341.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 22:19 EDT-0400
October 13, 2014 7:20:45 PM

I'm assuming a 970 is better than a 770 because of the extra 2GB of RAM and its superclocked?
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:21:39 PM

Ryuko said:
I'm assuming a 970 is better than a 770 because of the extra 2GB of RAM and its superclocked?


Not just that, it has more cuda cores (the more the better) and uses a lot less power.
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:22:21 PM

It also runs on a much newer architecture, which is the main difference.
October 13, 2014 7:22:59 PM

A question about the cooler, I heard a 212 is better for AMD CPU is that better than the one I listed? Also its about $50 cheaper.
October 13, 2014 7:23:23 PM

getting an overkill psu actually has a negative effect rather than a posotive one. When the psu is not running above %50 power its specs dramatically drop so you would get better performance from a 550 watt psu running at %50 over a 750 psu running at like %20
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:24:01 PM

Ryuko said:
A question about the cooler, i heard a 212 is better for AMD CPU is that better than the I i listed? Also its about $50 cheaper.


No, t is not better because the 212 is air cooling and yours is water cooling, but it still does the job for a much cheaper price. If you plan on overclocking though, don't expect as high frequencies with air cooling.
October 13, 2014 7:24:23 PM

Also in the build it looks like you spent a lot of uneeded extra cash on things like the cooler ect when it could go on buying an intel setup instead
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:24:35 PM

Better? Not close, but cheaper. Its price to performance ratio is much better than that of the h100i.
I would take the middle ground, and look at the NH-d14/15 or similar large air cooler. Its nearly identical to the h100i in terms of performance, but is cheaper and MUCH quieter.
October 13, 2014 7:24:50 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 4 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($207.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB Video Card ($565.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.48 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1587.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 22:24 EDT-0400

here you go :) 
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:25:57 PM

Valkyrieneos said:
Also in the build it looks like you spent a lot of uneeded extra cash on things like the cooler ect when it could go on buying an intel setup instead


That's what I thought in the back of my head, he should be going Intel at that price.
October 13, 2014 7:26:57 PM

Sorry, but with no regards to your local retailer or the AMD CPU (which in my opinion is far overpriced):

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/v2XMyc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/v2XMyc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.48 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1509.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 22:25 EDT-0400
October 13, 2014 7:27:06 PM

is there a difference between Intel and AMD? I'm seeing a lot of builds going for Intel.
October 13, 2014 7:28:14 PM

Ryuko said:
is there a difference between Intel and AMD? I'm seeing a lot of builds going for Intel.


Amd is more for budget builds your budget is high enough for an intel build
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:28:17 PM

The easiest way to break it down is like this.
AMD: More, overall weaker cores, however cheaper. Performs better in some multithreaded tasks.
INTEL: Less cores, stronger overall architecture, better gaming experience.

If you have the money to spend intel will offer you more raw performance, but it comes at a premium.
AMD is the better budget option where intel runs performance.
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:29:06 PM

Ryuko said:
is there a difference between Intel and AMD? I'm seeing a lot of builds going for Intel.


Intel is more power and heat efficient, has more core power, and is typically better for higher-budget builds.
October 13, 2014 7:29:12 PM

Ryuko said:
is there a difference between Intel and AMD? I'm seeing a lot of builds going for Intel.


For strictly gaming, Intel is better. It also is more power efficient and runs cooler.

If you plan to do a lot of multitasking and make use of the extra cores, AMD is better for you (personally, I'd still prefer Intel.)
October 13, 2014 7:30:36 PM

Also Id reccomend the kingston savage ram it came out this year and looks really nice compared to the ones you picked for the same price
October 13, 2014 7:30:46 PM

Ryuko said:
is there a difference between Intel and AMD? I'm seeing a lot of builds going for Intel.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 4 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($207.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB Video Card ($565.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.48 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1587.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 22:24 EDT-0400

here you go :) 

the 980 will serve you well. The best gaming video card out there.
October 13, 2014 7:34:09 PM

Please use the RAM from my build! It has 800MHz higher clocked RAM for only $5 price premium!!!
October 13, 2014 7:38:04 PM

jarblater said:
Please use the RAM from my build! It has 800MHz higher clocked RAM for only $5 price premium!!!


Doesnt that mean it has a lower cas and just works against it? Edit:Nvm confused myself lol
October 13, 2014 7:43:31 PM

Valkyrieneos said:
jarblater said:
Please use the RAM from my build! It has 800MHz higher clocked RAM for only $5 price premium!!!


Doesnt that mean it has a lower cas and just works against it? Edit:Nvm confused myself lol


Even with a higher CAS, the higher clock allows for more memory operations per second. I specifically recommended it because I own a set of that model RAM I listed and it runs on 1T just as stable as 2T. Edit: Plus you can say you run at DDR4 speeds...Bragging rights!!!
October 13, 2014 7:45:17 PM

So I edited my list with your suggestions:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YwRnNG

I'll go read the rest while I was changing parts to make it compatible.

thanks for the suggestion this far.
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:47:18 PM

There is no need to spend so much on an HDD. Save the money, buy something like the barracuda, which is half the price and just as good.
The only thing lacking there is an SSD, which is almost vital in this day and age.
October 13, 2014 7:48:42 PM

Just wondering: (Two part question) Why are you getting the more expensive Black series drive?
What is going to be taking up the extra space of that huge drive? Movies & music? Digital work? A huge game library? Some combination of those? etcetera?

Edit: +1 to Gam3r01's comment.
October 13, 2014 7:50:39 PM

I'm thinking about a Solid-State since its faster, I could go with 1TB HDD and just buy a external or portable HD cause I'm running out of room.
October 13, 2014 7:51:59 PM

Mostly Videos are taking up Hard drive space, I had to uninstall some games just to make room. I could solve it by getting more External or Portables.
October 13, 2014 7:54:43 PM

I would say an SSD is essential in any build unless its a budget build
October 13, 2014 7:55:14 PM

If your modem has a USB port you can plug an external HDD into it and stream your videos from it like a server by simply going (in Windows Explorer) to Network\[modem name]\[drive name]\video file....At least that's how I think you can do it (I can't check because my dad has his "cloud" password protected). Please someone clarify or verify :) 
October 13, 2014 7:56:38 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t93WK8

switched my RAM for jarblater one.

Other then adding a SSD in does everything else seem okay?

and thanks again for the help.
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 7:58:12 PM

I would change the RAM to a more common brand, that RAM is probably not the most reliable, hence the price.
October 13, 2014 7:59:31 PM

I know he should get the kingston savage ram ...
October 13, 2014 8:01:24 PM

would my previous one be a better option? I thought this jarblater one was better because its 2400 RPM compared to 1600 RPM.

I don't see any difference between a Crucial MX SSD and a Samsung. So I'll add Crucial MX100 in.
October 13, 2014 8:02:55 PM

Valkyrieneos said:
I know he should get the kingston savage ram ...


which Kingston Savage one are you referring to?
When I looked it up there was a list of them.
October 13, 2014 8:03:32 PM

turkey3_scratch said:
I would change the RAM to a more common brand, that RAM is probably not the most reliable, hence the price.


LOL I have that RAM overclocked to 2500MHz @ 1.7v (10, 12, 12, 31 1T) on a CPU with a Bclk of 105, no errors in Prime95 after 8 hrs...then again...
I might just be lucky because when I initially got it I had to send it back to Newegg since one of the heatsinks fell off when I opened the box and that DIMM did not work. This may have been due to the box sitting outside for a few hours during the coldest part of winter, but this detail will never see clarification.

October 13, 2014 8:10:34 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bjfVLk

I think I'll go for this build after all your help and suggestions.

My only Concern is the case that I picked. Will it be able to fit everything in and still have some room left to add extra parts in when I decide to?

Thanks again.
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 8:13:23 PM

Should easily fit it all.
October 13, 2014 8:35:26 PM

I think my local retailers won't have most of the items I listed so I'm thinking of going to get them off of Newegg.
As i haven't purchased anything from them I'm not sure how their service is.
If anyone can tell how how good their Quality of Service is, much appreciated.
a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 8:40:14 PM

One of the best. Never had a bad experience with them, I also get free one day shipping.
Perks of living 4 hours from the warehouse, select free shipping, no matter how slow it might be, 4 hours is 4 hours.
October 14, 2014 6:32:23 AM

I forgot to ask, as this is my first time. Will I be able to run most or all games on High settings? I don't mind playing on low but some games that I have will still lag even on the lowest settings.

thanks again.
a b 4 Gaming
October 14, 2014 7:49:46 AM

Ryuko said:
I forgot to ask, as this is my first time. Will I be able to run most or all games on High settings? I don't mind playing on low but some games that I have will still lag even on the lowest settings.

thanks again.


You will get max settings and high frame rates.
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