Best Graphics Cards For The Money: October 2014
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We talk about the new GeForce GTX 970 and 980 in this months update, and see how these disruptive products have changed the price landscape. We also talkn about the GeForce GTX 970M, 980M, and discuss rumors of upcoming products.
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boytitan2
October 17, 2014 12:29:12 AM
jdwii
October 17, 2014 1:19:14 AM
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What's going on with the hierarchy chart?
You have the GTX970 below GTX780ti and the GTX980 in the same level with GTX780ti, while the real performance at page 8 clearly shows GTX970 on par with GTX780ti and GTX980 one level (at least) ahead.
Your own benchmark results are not on par with your hierarchy chart. Isn't the hierarchy chart based on Tom's Hardware benchmarks?
You have the GTX970 below GTX780ti and the GTX980 in the same level with GTX780ti, while the real performance at page 8 clearly shows GTX970 on par with GTX780ti and GTX980 one level (at least) ahead.
Your own benchmark results are not on par with your hierarchy chart. Isn't the hierarchy chart based on Tom's Hardware benchmarks?
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silverblue
October 17, 2014 4:15:39 AM
I see some awkward tweaks have been made to the chart. For example, a GTX760 should be at least a tier higher than the HD7870 (like it was a couple months ago), but now they're on the same tier. If driver changes have made that much difference, I believe they should be called out in the article.
Little nuances like that are what clearly illustrate that as useful as the chart is, it is not a be-all/end-all. Consider it a substantial data point, but don't forget to consider others, such as benchmarks of the specific games you want to play.
Little nuances like that are what clearly illustrate that as useful as the chart is, it is not a be-all/end-all. Consider it a substantial data point, but don't forget to consider others, such as benchmarks of the specific games you want to play.
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October 17, 2014 6:32:56 AM
aje21
October 17, 2014 6:49:11 AM
marooner
October 17, 2014 7:18:37 AM
Pavel Pokidaylo
October 17, 2014 7:32:16 AM
The 295X2 is recommended because it's a single board ideal for small rigs.
The reference 780 ti clocks are low compared to the 900 series cards. The gap in performance between the 980 and 780 ti is probably at stock. I know you can overclock the 900 series to over 1400 and what not but if you compare the out of box overclocks on, for example, the MSI 780 ti gaming and MSI 970 Gaming, you will see the 780 ti pulls ahead by quite a bit and in fact produces the same performance as an MSI 980 gaming. Don't take my word for it, here are the benchmarks...
MSI 980 Gaming - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Gaming/6...
Asus Strix 970 - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_O...
MSI 780 Ti Gaming- http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...
The reference 780 ti clocks are low compared to the 900 series cards. The gap in performance between the 980 and 780 ti is probably at stock. I know you can overclock the 900 series to over 1400 and what not but if you compare the out of box overclocks on, for example, the MSI 780 ti gaming and MSI 970 Gaming, you will see the 780 ti pulls ahead by quite a bit and in fact produces the same performance as an MSI 980 gaming. Don't take my word for it, here are the benchmarks...
MSI 980 Gaming - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Gaming/6...
Asus Strix 970 - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_O...
MSI 780 Ti Gaming- http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gamin...
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jwl3
October 17, 2014 8:17:34 AM
Why are Nvidia cards so much more expensive than AMD? I freaking hate AMD cards and their schit drivers. They dropped support of my Crossfired 4850's even though they still run lots of games well. Only reason I had to upgrade was because it wouldn't run Thief or NBA 2k15.
I was forced to buy a Radeon 280 and guess what? I spent 2 hours trying to get the damned card to accept the newest Catalyst drivers - install kept crashing. What the F is wrong with AMD and their drivers?
I was forced to buy a Radeon 280 and guess what? I spent 2 hours trying to get the damned card to accept the newest Catalyst drivers - install kept crashing. What the F is wrong with AMD and their drivers?
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xenol
October 17, 2014 8:18:34 AM
boytitan2 said:
You can get a 760 for 180 bucks with a rebate and it is not listed. And the 750 ti can be found for 125 with or with out a rebate by multiple vendors. These prices have been around for the 3 weeks I have been shopping for a new rig come on Toms. Including rebates isn't a good idea because...
- You still have to pay full price up front.
- The time window for rebate maybe ending by the time this goes up
- You don't get cash anymore. Most rebates are giving out gift cards (those pre-paid Visa ones or something).
- You won't get the rebate in a timely manner anyway.
- Rebates require you to snip off the UPC code. If something goes wrong with that part, you can't return it if you've already submitted the rebate and returns require the UPC code.
Rebates are like letting a friend borrow money, you just have to accept you may never get it back.
jwl3 said:
Why are Nvidia cards so much more expensive than AMD?With high quality comes a price. Or so I'm led to believe. Even with people complaining about AMD's drivers (with a few in the camp who say they've never had a problem), I still question their hardware engineering sometimes.
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October 17, 2014 8:59:05 AM
chaosmassive
October 17, 2014 9:39:38 AM
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You can get a 760 for 180 bucks with a rebate and it is not listed. And the 750 ti can be found for 125 with or with out a rebate by multiple vendors. These prices have been around for the 3 weeks I have been shopping for a new rig come on Toms. Yeah well you can get a more powerful R9 280 for 170 bucks, so the GTX 760 is just not a good buy at the moment.
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Mail-in rebates are the biggest joke in the industry. I've never gotten any money back from mail-in rebates and I don't bother with them. The only rebates that are worth anything are instant rebates that result in an instant price reduction when checking out. Other than that, rebates may as well not exist.
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elbert
October 17, 2014 10:40:16 AM
youssef 2010
October 17, 2014 10:58:51 AM
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ananke
October 17, 2014 11:44:00 AM
boytitan2 said:
You can get a 760 for 180 bucks with a rebate and it is not listed. And the 750 ti can be found for 125 with or with out a rebate by multiple vendors. These prices have been around for the 3 weeks I have been shopping for a new rig come on Toms. Come on yourself, bro. You can find one-off rebates on pretty much every type of product, why call out the 750 Ti and 760 specifically?
Radeon R7 260X starts at $100 on Newegg. The Radeon R9 280 starts at $190. Both of those are *without* rebates, so why not mention those?
Regardless: we look for good, average pricing. Not special rebates that might be gone tomorrow, or heavily discounted one-offs.
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Memnarchon said:
Your own benchmark results are not on par with your hierarchy chart. Isn't the hierarchy chart based on Tom's Hardware benchmarks?
This article is more on the editorial side, based on what *I* benchmark. Indeed, I've seen cards like the 760 fall behind in newer benchmarks (check our Radeon 285 article).
Our Charts benchmark suite is kind of old, but it's in the process of an update, so we should see things reflect more accurately in the future.
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cleeve said:
Memnarchon said:
Your own benchmark results are not on par with your hierarchy chart. Isn't the hierarchy chart based on Tom's Hardware benchmarks?
This article is more on the editorial side, based on what *I* benchmark. Indeed, I've seen cards like the 760 fall behind in newer benchmarks (check our Radeon 285 article).
Our Charts benchmark suite is kind of old, but it's in the process of an update, so we should see things reflect more accurately in the future.
Thanks for the response.
I am reading TH daily and I was surprised too to see the GTX 760 fall behind, or to be more accurate, the R9 270X to provide really good results.
But my question was about the consfusing results between hierarchy and page 8, which you just answered
. Thank you also for the update you guys will make. I think a lot of people (myself included) that reading and using Tom's Hardware as one of the most respected hardware knowledge sites, are waiting for this.
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Brogan
October 17, 2014 7:03:52 PM
Brogan said:
So... looking ahead a bit.. should a GTX 980 paired with a solid i5 CPU and 1080p res be able to max out almost everything going into holiday 2015?I think that we can be almost certain that it will unless games suddenly need more than 4 cores to run them which I don't see happening for a while
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Brogan
October 17, 2014 10:42:31 PM
SessouXFX
October 18, 2014 12:37:07 AM
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