4k ips 60hz soon or 1440p 120hz soon?

[snodapus]

I am looking for a freesync monitor I suppose. Not only are they cheaper but new AMD cards are coming out soon and I suppose they are better than nvidias offerings.

I am willing to dump a lot of money into my PC. Talking 4-6k.

Ive never experienced 120hz or freesync. Ive never experienced anything over 1080p.

Is 4k a lot better than 1440p? Is 60hz comparable to 120hz if the monitor has freesync? Is 4k on ultra settings possible on the latest and greatest games? Should I settle with 1440p until 4k ips 120hz monitors are out and it is possible to achieve 120hz?

Thanks

 

[Brillis Wuce]

4K is exactly double the resolution of 1080p, and 1440p is a sort of mid-ground. So yes, there is a big difference.

4K is just now starting to become feasible. With a single, high end GPU (290X, GTX 980), you can get respectable frame rates with some details turned down. If you add in another for SLI/Crossfire, you get solid performance with higher details.

At 4K, it's more realistic to shoot for 60 fps. With any decent details setting, you're not going to get to 120 fps, so a 60Hz monitor will work fine.

If you're going to spend 4-6K, you can create a great 4K machine. I would wait for the release of the AMD 3-series, then let the benchmarks decide for you.

 

[13thmonkey]

4k is quadruple the resolution of 1080p, double on each side.

 

[Brillis Wuce]

4k is quadruple the resolution of 1080p, double on each side.

How so?

1920x1080p x 2 = 3840x2160

 

[zarugal]

I am looking for a freesync monitor I suppose. Not only are they cheaper but new AMD cards are coming out soon and I suppose they are better than nvidias offerings.

I am willing to dump a lot of money into my PC. Talking 4-6k.

Ive never experienced 120hz or freesync. Ive never experienced anything over 1080p.

Is 4k a lot better than 1440p? Is 60hz comparable to 120hz if the monitor has freesync? Is 4k on ultra settings possible on the latest and greatest games? Should I settle with 1440p until 4k ips 120hz monitors are out and it is possible to achieve 120hz?

Thanks

Go for a decent FreeSync/G-Sync monitor with a high refresh rate if you're set on it. 4K gaming is very demanding to run, and there are some games that you can't even hope to get 60fps on, so if you want a 120Hz 4K monitor, you're going to have to wait for GPU hardware to get a little beefier first.
There are also a lot of incidents of poor interface scaling due to 4K being so much greater in resolution than 1080p

1440p looks better for gaming, but isn't great for 1080p content as it doesn't scale properly.

 

[zarugal]

4k is quadruple the resolution of 1080p, double on each side.

How so?

1920x1080p x 2 = 3840x2160

4K is commonly said in place of UHD. UHD is what is exactly 2x greater than 1080p. It would be far easier if everyone referred to it as 2160p as YouTube do..
4K is the movie standard resolution and is over 4000 pixels in width - hence the name 4K.

 

[mike1996]

-720 is hd 1080 is 2k 1440 is 3k and then theirs 4k

If money is not a big deal 4k s the way to go but there is no way you will be able to run graphically demanding games on ultimate at least not with current gene graphics the best you will hit is low 30s on demanding games like metro.

I personally would go for an lg 1440 ultra wide, its high enough res that it still looks great and the ultra wide aspect ratio is gorgeous not to mention you should be able to run this res with a signal or 2 way sli

 

[Brillis Wuce]

4k is quadruple the resolution of 1080p, double on each side.

How so?

1920x1080p x 2 = 3840x2160

4K is commonly said in place of UHD. UHD is what is exactly 2x greater than 1080p. It would be far easier if everyone referred to it as 2160p as YouTube do..
4K is the movie standard resolution and is over 4000 pixels in width - hence the name 4K.

Agreed. I always call it 2160p, but then people don't know what I'm talking about until I say 4K

 

[zarugal]

Agreed. I always call it 2160p, but then people don't know what I'm talking about until I say 4K

Damn TV companies confusing everyone. It's the whole 'LED is better than Plasma' again..

 

[Brillis Wuce]

Agreed. I always call it 2160p, but then people don't know what I'm talking about until I say 4K

Damn TV companies confusing everyone. It's the whole 'LED is better than Plasma' again..

They'll do any marketing gimmick to sell product, even if it's borderline false advertising.

 

[snodapus]

First off thanks to those that stayed on topic and provided some insight. I will chose best answer soon.

Can anyone provide a link to 4k benchmarks on the most demanding game at this time with ultra settings turned on in 2way and 3way sli configs.

Also does the cpu and ram play a factor at 4k?

 

[Brillis Wuce]

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6725/4k-showdown-asus-gtx-980-4gb-in-single-sli-3-way-sli-and-4-way-sli/index6.html

A CPU can bottleneck, but an i5 would be more than enough. I'd recommend going the Intel route on this one. RAM can be anywhere from 8GB to 16GB, depending on how much you multi-task.

 

[snodapus]

Hmm. Seems 1440p is where I should go. I would love to go 4k. Upgrading video cards every 6 months seems ludacris. Even if I did there may be a game that is unplayable.

 

[Brillis Wuce]

1440p is a good choice. In a year or two, GPU's will be able to run 4K effectively. I'd recommend making the move then.

 

[zarugal]

1440p is a good choice. In a year or two, GPU's will be able to run 4K effectively. I'd recommend making the move then.

This is spot on.

 

[13thmonkey]

Agree 1440p is the answer now, but another question is, do you need ultra on 4k? much smaller pixels...

 

[zarugal]

Agree 1440p is the answer now, but another question is, do you need ultra on 4k? much smaller pixels...

Surely that's only going to help with AA.

 

[13thmonkey]

It'll certainly help with AA, but some (not all) of the settings are going to increase fidelity at a per pixel level which will be less visible with the smaller pxiels, that's my thought anyway.

 

[zarugal]

I guess the ideal outcome for the time being would be to have textures at 1080p, but without the need for AA or any other after effects thanks to the smaller pixels. I'm not sure the two are mutually exclusive though.

 

[13thmonkey]

It would require some experimenting to figure it out, not something that anyone has done who is independent.

 

[wyliec2]

4k is quadruple the resolution of 1080p, double on each side.

How so?

1920x1080p x 2 = 3840x2160

4k has 4 times the number of pixels as 1080.

 

[zarugal]

4k has 4 times the number of pixels as 1080.

No, 2160p has 4 times as many pixels as 1080p. Therefore 2160p displays have a resolution of 3840x2160 at 16:9 ratio.

4K resolution is the cinema equivalent of 2160p at a resolution of 4096x2160 thanks to it's wider aspect ratio of 19:10.

4K and 2160p are two different resolutions, not different names for the same thing.

 

[13thmonkey]

4k has 4 times the number of pixels as 1080.

No, 2160p has 4 times as many pixels as 1080p. Therefore 2160p displays have a resolution of 3840x2160 at 16:9 ratio.

4K resolution is the cinema equivalent of 2160p at a resolution of 4096x2160 thanks to it's wider aspect ratio of 19:10.

4K and 2160p are two different resolutions, not different names for the same thing.

But certainly not simply double the resolution.

 

[wyliec2]

4k has 4 times the number of pixels as 1080.

No, 2160p has 4 times as many pixels as 1080p. Therefore 2160p displays have a resolution of 3840x2160 at 16:9 ratio.

4K resolution is the cinema equivalent of 2160p at a resolution of 4096x2160 thanks to it's wider aspect ratio of 19:10.

4K and 2160p are two different resolutions, not different names for the same thing.

I won't debate nuance - the vast majority of '4k' displays are, in fact, 3840 x 2160 and 16:9 aspect ratio. I choose to use commonly accepted terminology instead oblique references irrelevant in the context of this thread....cheers.

 

[zarugal]

I won't debate nuance - the vast majority of '4k' displays are, in fact, 3840 x 2160 and 16:9 aspect ratio. I choose to use commonly accepted terminology instead oblique references irrelevant in the context of this thread....cheers.

The vast majority of displays referred to as 4K are televisions, like I mentioned above, as companies wanted something that sounds more exciting than 2160p so they just bent the definition somewhat.

Just because it's commonly accepted it doesn't make it the right terminology to use. I would have thought that people would on here of all places would know that.