Can you have a look at my planned PC build

Hello I am planning to buy and build this PC https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/563695 and I would like to have your opinion on it and see if there's any problem.
I would like this computer to last a while (4-5 years) and I plan to use it mostly for gaming.
I would also like to know if I should hold out until AMD releases ZEN and the prices of the card to drop?
because my friend told me that the price drop will only be about $100 on my card and if that's the case then I think I might just get it now.

thankyou for your time.
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  1. I would be more tempted to hold out for the release of the new GPU ranges from AMD and NVidia. That is a decent build though if you do decide to buy now.
  2. Dustybin said:
    I would be more tempted to hold out for the release of the new GPU ranges from AMD and NVidia. That is a decent build though if you do decide to buy now.


    but would I be able to afford it? because I thought that the new GPUs were for high end machines.
  3. If you're looking at buying an R9 390 then you would be able to afford something from the new range of GPU's. I don't know AMD's plans but I would be surprised if the initial list doesn't include a R9 490 and NVidia will release a 1070 GTX. I have heard reviews for the Nvidia cards will come out in the middle of May, not sure about AMD.

    It's up to you, if you've got a system with a GPU in it at the moment you could always buy the rest of the parts and make do with your old GPU. Prices on the 390 are unlikely to go up between now and then.
  4. Dustybin said:
    If you're looking at buying an R9 390 then you would be able to afford something from the new range of GPU's. I don't know AMD's plans but I would be surprised if the initial list doesn't include a R9 490 and NVidia will release a 1070 GTX. I have heard reviews for the Nvidia cards will come out in the middle of May, not sure about AMD.

    It's up to you, if you've got a system with a GPU in it at the moment you could always buy the rest of the parts and make do with your old GPU. Prices on the 390 are unlikely to go up between now and then.


    I did a bit of research and it looks like the new chips won't be out until Q4 2016 or early 2017. so I think I am going to get it now and upgrade to a new card in about 2-4 years? I am not worried about the 390's prices going up because I think it will go down a bit (friend said about $100) since they will be releasing a new GPU. I also had a look into AMD's CPU and I honestly don't think it will be much better then the Intel CPU that we have now with AMD's CPU being weaker and all.
  5. Pascal is due out in June, and everything I have read suggests Polaris will be out before the end of the summer. I can totally understand why you would buy now and the 390 is a decent card. Personally I would wait on the GPU but it's your call, that card will definitely still be decent in two years time.

    Zen is interesting but I wouldn't hold out for it. AMD has been promising huge improvements for a while that haven't really happened. If it gets good reviews and I am in the market for a CPU I might take a look at it but it won't be influencing my buying decisions.
  6. Dustybin said:
    Pascal is due out in June, and everything I have read suggests Polaris will be out before the end of the summer. I can totally understand why you would buy now and the 390 is a decent card. Personally I would wait on the GPU but it's your call, that card will definitely still be decent in two years time.

    Zen is interesting but I wouldn't hold out for it. AMD has been promising huge improvements for a while that haven't really happened. If it gets good reviews and I am in the market for a CPU I might take a look at it but it won't be influencing my buying decisions.


    I don't know anything about Pascal or Polaris can you tell me if these cards are going to give me a great performance boost compared to what I have now or just a bit? because I think I am getting one of the best card on the market right now so if a better one comes out I don't think there will be much of a difference.
  7. Generally speaking (and this is a only generally) what you find is something like this, in the new range a card will perform like the card from the tier above in the old range. You have to be a bit more careful with AMD because they've been doing a lot of rebranding of their cards.

    So for them the 390 isn't totally a new card vs 290 and you won't see the same pattern. However AMD's new GPU's are genuinely new this time which is what makes it likely that (names to be confirmed) a R9 390 might only perform as well as a R9 480.

    Both Nvidia and AMD are dropping their process size in the new range which should also mean that the cards run cooler and are less power hungry... or can fit more power in the same space. I don't normally get that excited about such things but I really believe that it is worth holding out on the GPU.

    i.e.

    a 1070 will match a 980
    a 1080 will match a 980 ti

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
  8. Dustybin said:
    Generally speaking (and this is a only generally) what you find is something like this, in the new range a card will perform like the card from the tier above in the old range. You have to be a bit more careful with AMD because they've been doing a lot of rebranding of their cards.

    So for them the 390 isn't totally a new card vs 290 and you won't see the same pattern. However AMD's new GPU's are genuinely new this time which is what makes it likely that (names to be confirmed) a R9 390 might only perform as well as a R9 480.

    edit: if that's the case I think I will get the R9 390X.

    Both Nvidia and AMD are dropping their process size in the new range which should also mean that the cards run cooler and are less power hungry... or can fit more power in the same space. I don't normally get that excited about such things but I really believe that it is worth holding out on the GPU.

    i.e.

    a 1070 will match a 980
    a 1080 will match a 980 ti

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html



    so the new cards will be about 10 fps better then R9 390x? that's what I got comparing the 380 and the 390.
  9. That's a nice psu in that build,but you can do with something less expensive like,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/28100/evga-supernova-b2-750w-power-supply
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33123/xfx-xtr-series-750w-gold-modular-power-supply
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/27992/evga-supernova-g2-gold-750w-power-supply
    all still (semi) modular.Maybe that the money saved can be used for something else like another motherboard that looks really nice in a case with a window or just keep it in the pocket.
  10. Vic 40 said:
    That's a nice psu in that build,but you can do with something less expensive like,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/28100/evga-supernova-b2-750w-power-supply
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33123/xfx-xtr-series-750w-gold-modular-power-supply
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/27992/evga-supernova-g2-gold-750w-power-supply
    all still (semi) modular.Maybe that the money saved can be used for something else like another motherboard that looks really nice in a case with a window or just keep it in the pocket.


    I would like to use a different and cheaper PSU but after checking a PSU calculator it said I use more then 750W so I need a 800W PSU.
  11. No you don't need more than 750watt,even a 650watt psu would do fine with these parts.If you went for crossfire one day that could be needed,but then would i advice a good 850watt psu to be sure.So for a single gpu build is a 750watt already overkill,but these were the ones that are (semi) modular and of good quality plus a decent price.
  12. Vic 40 said:
    No you don't need more than 750watt,even a 650watt psu would do fine with these parts.If you went for crossfire one day that could be needed,but then would i advice a good 850watt psu to be sure.So for a single gpu build is a 750watt already overkill,but these were the ones that are (semi) modular and of good quality plus a decent price.


    I think you might be right. maybe I can change this for a 600W PSU. thanks man!

    http://outervision.com/b/aD8nMf

    I'm thinking of getting this.
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/27629/be-quiet!-pure-power-l8-600w-power-supply/
  13. With the EVGA 750watt B2 i linked above would you spend about half you would with that first choice and be better of,even better of then with the Be Quiet 600watt.
    The cheapest for those parts would i go for,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33119/xfx-ts-gold-series-650w-power-supply
  14. Vic 40 said:
    With the EVGA 750watt B2 i linked above would you spend about half you would with that first choice and be better of,even better of then with the Be Quiet 600watt.
    The cheapest for those parts would i go for,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33119/xfx-ts-gold-series-650w-power-supply


    okay I think I will go for this: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/28100/evga-supernova-b2-750w-power-supply

    tell me if I should change anything else.
  15. Since you saved some money and you have a window in the case would i spend some of it on this motherboard,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33795/asrock-fatal1ty-h170-performance-motherboard

    You have 2400mhz ram in the build,with B150/H170 motherboards will that run at 2133mhz,they don't support higher speed ram,maybe look at 2133mhz ram or upgrade to a Z170 motherboard if you want higher speed ram.Something like this would be fine with the H170 motherboard,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/32809/kingston-hyperx-fury-hx421c14fbk2-16-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-black
    even cheaper so saved some money as well.2133mhz with a cas latency of 14.
  16. Vic 40 said:
    Since you saved some money and you have a window in the case would i spend some of it on this motherboard,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33795/asrock-fatal1ty-h170-performance-motherboard


    does my current motherboard have a problem? what will be the benefits to having this board?
  17. Updated my previous answer.

    The benefit would be a great looking build,i assume you have a window so you can look at the parts.Other thing is that it will have a better audiochip,small stuff like that.It also has an M.2 pcie slot for an ssd that would fit there,well like i said stuff like that.

    And looking further,for an hdd would i rather use these at the same pricepoint,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/24833/seagate-st1000dx001-desktop-sshd-1tb
    or
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/19554/seagate-barracuda-2tb-st2000dm001
    or cheaper,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/19747/seagate-barracuda-1tb-st1000dm003
    with the money saved by buying different parts could you maybe add an ssd,Something like this one,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/30448/samsung-850-evo-250gb-ssd
    if you want to save money,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/32132/sandisk-ultra-ii-240gb-2-5in-ssd
    for a 120gb,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/34627/samsung-750-evo-120gb-ssd
    or ,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/32131/sandisk-ultra-ii-120gb-2-5in-ssd
    an 120gb ssd is alreay small that's why i first gave the 250gb ones,the Samsung 840 250gb with the seagate 1tb hdd a good option imo.
  18. Vic 40 said:
    Updated my previous answer.

    The benefit would be a great looking build,i assume you have a window so you can look at the parts.Other thing is that it will have a better audiochip,small stuff like that.It also has an M.2 pcie slot for an ssd that would fit there,well like i said stuff like that.


    okay I will take your advice it's only a 3 dolor price difference when I take the ram that you chose for me.

    something like this: https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/563695

    anything else I should be careful of?
  19. Updated my previous answer again.:)

    You have a dualband router? I myself use this one and it does pretty well,but only supports the 2.4ghz band.
  20. Vic 40 said:
    Updated my previous answer again.:)

    You have a dualband router? I myself use this one and it does pretty well,but only supports the 2.4ghz band.


    thanks mate. I will be getting the Seagate HDD instead of the toshiba. as for SSD I plan to use my SSD in my laptop. I read somewhere if I format it I can use it or something.
    and I do not have a dualband router I think. is it WiFi? I already have a modem router that has WiFi.
  21. Cosinder this PSUs:
    750W(Tier 1)
    650W (Tier 2)
    (I would go with EVGA G2 (also instead of B2 u chose), 10y EVGA warranty is + and 750 is more "future-proof")

    U can always sell R9 390X and buy card from new architecture or buy something like gtx950 for waiting game, sell it, and buy R9 390X for lower price or new Polaris/Pascal card
  22. PrupleLobster said:
    Vic 40 said:
    Updated my previous answer again.:)

    You have a dualband router? I myself use this one and it does pretty well,but only supports the 2.4ghz band.


    thanks mate. I will be getting the Seagate HDD instead of the toshiba. as for SSD I plan to use my SSD in my laptop. I read somewhere if I format it I can use it or something.
    and I do not have a dualband router I think. is it WiFi? I already have a modem router that has WiFi.


    Dual-band router uses the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequency bands -> "has two kinds of Wi-Fi network"
    and for gaming is better to be connected by a cable if it's possible IMO (multiplayer games of course :) )
  23. Crow-M said:
    PrupleLobster said:
    Vic 40 said:
    Updated my previous answer again.:)

    You have a dualband router? I myself use this one and it does pretty well,but only supports the 2.4ghz band.


    thanks mate. I will be getting the Seagate HDD instead of the toshiba. as for SSD I plan to use my SSD in my laptop. I read somewhere if I format it I can use it or something.
    and I do not have a dualband router I think. is it WiFi? I already have a modem router that has WiFi.


    Dual-band router uses the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequency bands -> "has two kinds of Wi-Fi network"
    and for gaming is better to be connected by a cable if it's possible IMO (multiplayer games of course :) )


    yes now that I think about it I already have dualband. I was thinknig of getting this.: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/31294/edimax-ac1200-dual-band-pci-e-adapter
    it supports 5ghz too.

    also should I get a windows seven because windows 10 have privacy concerns and all?
  24. Since you have the dualband capability is that wifi adapter a decent choice.

    What privacy concerns do you have? I would just use the latest o.s. W10.It also has is capable of using DX12 which W7 can't.
  25. Vic 40 said:
    Since you have the dualband capability is that wifi adapter a decent choice.

    What privacy concerns do you have? I would just use the latest o.s. W10.It also has is capable of using DX12 which W7 can't.


    is this what you were talking about? https://www.pccasegear.com/products/31294/edimax-ac1200-dual-band-pci-e-adapter
    I think it's good.

    about win 10 I heard that it gives out your internet password to people and use my computers internet to download software to other peoples computers and stuff. I know I can turn all the privacy settings to what I want, but I'm just not sure if I can trust Microsoft in this one.

    also my friend said that I should use a 4gig VRAM card instead because he said "most games don't even use 4 gig VRAM". if that's the case should I change my card to a r9 380X or something similar? I would like to make my computer future proof for a while and I would hate it to get a card that won't last me at least 2 years maybe 4?

    https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/563695
  26. PrupleLobster said:

    is this what you were talking about? https://www.pccasegear.com/products/31294/edimax-ac1200-dual-band-pci-e-adapter
    I think it's good.

    about win 10 I heard that it gives out your internet password to people and use my computers internet to download software to other peoples computers and stuff. I know I can turn all the privacy settings to what I want, but I'm just not sure if I can trust Microsoft in this one.

    also my friend said that I should use a 4gig VRAM card instead because he said "most games don't even use 4 gig VRAM". if that's the case should I change my card to a r9 380X or something similar? I would like to make my computer future proof for a while and I would hate it to get a card that won't last me at least 2 years maybe 4?

    https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/563695


    to 4GB VRAM - you not specified your screen resolution (monitor) and also what type of gamer you are, if "hardcore" & obsessed with graphic or such a casual (play all types games but because of story/fun/etc. not graphic) or CS:GO, LoL, DOTA and so on (3rd type = yes go for lower card).
    For 1080p (1920x1080 scrn res.) is r9 390X overkill for now, yes of course. But why to buy something "slower" nowdays (if hardcore/casual) when there is a new GPU generation around the corner and 144Hz gaming monitors standard or rising 4K and you have money for it. R9 390X is really more futureproof and can be sold for decent price even 2-5 years from now. In case of GPU, if you do not want/plan to change it every 1-2 year, always buy the best you can.
    Or you can be like me and play waiting game for new flagships GPUs with some low-end card like 950... :) and see if something valuable come or just price of R9 390X / gtx 980Ti drop down

    to win10 - no you can NOT trust Microsoft just like you can not google, apple and so on. It is not about passwords or something like that. It's about personal informations about you for "marketing purpose", collecting info about you, installed soft, hardware... shortly. Of course thing with forced updates and fact that win10 is not really on "your HDD" but more virtual if understand. And also think about one thing, why they give it for free at first ? Coz they love us ? Find answer yourself. But I am not that much sceptical how it looks like. For a regular pc user is not a great deal what is going on. But try to ask someone who is with "both legs in pc world" if curious about that and do what YOU WANT. I am sticking with W7 for at least 1 year...
    And ast but not least, IMO, never use MC soft as fresh new because of bugs and bullshit. Wait for it. Take your time and especially grant it to MS :))
  27. PrupleLobster said:

    is this what you were talking about? https://www.pccasegear.com/products/31294/edimax-ac1200-dual-band-pci-e-adapter
    I think it's good.

    Yes that's what i referred to.:) Looks good to me too.


    PrupleLobster said:

    about win 10 I heard that it gives out your internet password to people and use my computers internet to download software to other peoples computers and stuff.

    Where did you get that from? With W7 you probably will get the offer for a free upgrade to W10,which is quit a pushy thing.If the symbol for it appears in the system tray is it just a matter of time before windows will upgrade itself no matter what you want.I've seen that with my W8 going to W8.1 and was about to see that happen to my 8.1 going to W10.If you don't act will it happen.The only way to stop it is to take owner ship of the file/folder the update tool is in and remove the whole folder.

    There are diferent tutorials about how to "take ownership" in windows this is one,
    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/add-take-ownership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
    but it makes use of a registry hack and requires to download a file i'm not familiar with,that's why i didn't use it.Other options are available as well,but require more steps to get it done.


    PrupleLobster said:

    also my friend said that I should use a 4gig VRAM card instead because he said "most games don't even use 4 gig VRAM". if that's the case should I change my card to a r9 380X or something similar? I would like to make my computer future proof for a while and I would hate it to get a card that won't last me at least 2 years maybe 4?

    Don't know why your friend says that.It's not true.Yes you can do with 4gb of Vram,but these r9 390X gpu's just happen to have 8gb,no big deal.If in time wanting to play on 4K would it maybe be a benefit to have the larger amount of Vram.
    The card you're asking about now is just not as good as the 390X.Could you make do with a r9 390 (no X) probably,that would maybe be a better choice looking at price differences and the just small gap between the gpu's in performance from what i see.
    You could get a gtx 970 for even less and that would perform roughly about the same as the r9 390 depending on the games you play.Look at some reviews about the r9 390 to compare for yourself.One already.

    Talking about price differences,if you would use an i5 6500+the EVGA B2+the Seagate Barracuda 1tb i linked could you probably add a nice ssd to that build.Using the r9 390 (or gtx 970 or this one) would add to that as well extra to spend money as well.In that case could you maybe keep the EVGA G2 or the I5 6600,just do some math yourself.
  28. Crow-M said:
    PrupleLobster said:

    is this what you were talking about? https://www.pccasegear.com/products/31294/edimax-ac1200-dual-band-pci-e-adapter
    I think it's good.

    about win 10 I heard that it gives out your internet password to people and use my computers internet to download software to other peoples computers and stuff. I know I can turn all the privacy settings to what I want, but I'm just not sure if I can trust Microsoft in this one.

    also my friend said that I should use a 4gig VRAM card instead because he said "most games don't even use 4 gig VRAM". if that's the case should I change my card to a r9 380X or something similar? I would like to make my computer future proof for a while and I would hate it to get a card that won't last me at least 2 years maybe 4?

    https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/563695


    to 4GB VRAM - you not specified your screen resolution (monitor) and also what type of gamer you are, if "hardcore" & obsessed with graphic or such a casual (play all types games but because of story/fun/etc. not graphic) or CS:GO, LoL, DOTA and so on (3rd type = yes go for lower card).
    For 1080p (1920x1080 scrn res.) is r9 390X overkill for now, yes of course. But why to buy something "slower" nowdays (if hardcore/casual) when there is a new GPU generation around the corner and 144Hz gaming monitors standard or rising 4K and you have money for it. R9 390X is really more futureproof and can be sold for decent price even 2-5 years from now. In case of GPU, if you do not want/plan to change it every 1-2 year, always buy the best you can.
    Or you can be like me and play waiting game for new flagships GPUs with some low-end card like 950... :) and see if something valuable come or just price of R9 390X / gtx 980Ti drop down

    to win10 - no you can NOT trust Microsoft just like you can not google, apple and so on. It is not about passwords or something like that. It's about personal informations about you for "marketing purpose", collecting info about you, installed soft, hardware... shortly. Of course thing with forced updates and fact that win10 is not really on "your HDD" but more virtual if understand. And also think about one thing, why they give it for free at first ? Coz they love us ? Find answer yourself. But I am not that much sceptical how it looks like. For a regular pc user is not a great deal what is going on. But try to ask someone who is with "both legs in pc world" if curious about that and do what YOU WANT. I am sticking with W7 for at least 1 year...
    And ast but not least, IMO, never use MC soft as fresh new because of bugs and bullshit. Wait for it. Take your time and especially grant it to MS :))


    as for my resolution I would like to get an 1080p 60fps experience.
    as for the typs of games I would like to play I guess "Hardcore" would be right..
    as for why I wan't to get a new GPU now is because there's a game I would like to play now, and my current computer wont run it. however getting a new desktop PC was always a plan.
    as for my OS I think I will stick to a win 7 until I find out exactly whats going on.
  29. than (and from the beginning :D ) do what u think is best for u ;)
    1080p 60fps is not too demanding even for Hardcore gaming on Ultra with mid-range gpu like 380x

    Like i set:
    1. U can always sell R9 390X and buy card from a new architecture
    2. Have money for it = buy it
    3. R9 390X is more futureproof (e.g. for new games, new monitor)

    If you want to enjoy 390x, buy 390x if u can afford it. Just like someone want to buy & enjoy Aston Martin istead of VW.

    Only up to you :)
  30. Vic 40 said:
    With W7 you probably will get the offer for a free upgrade to W10,which is quit a pushy thing.If the symbol for it appears in the system tray is it just a matter of time before windows will upgrade itself no matter what you want.



    I think, only what to do is uninstall win update (KB3035583) that is causing that tray banner (in case I understood you correctly)
    -> here it is summarized <-
  31. alright every one thank you for your time. I think I decided on my final build https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/563695
    as for an SSD I will use the one that I am already using for my laptop .
    for the operating system I will be using the windows 7 until I find out what exactly is going on with the 10.

    thank you very much for your time! :)
  32. Crow-M said:

    I think, only what to do is uninstall win update (KB3035583) that is causing that tray banner (in case I understood you correctly)
    -> here it is summarized <-

    There's more to it.It's not just an icon in the system tray,it's a program that will slowly push the option to upgrade forward up to a point where it will download the upgrade itself and ask if you want it installed right then or after a few hours.
    If you let it be it will start after those few hours,i've been there with 8->8.1 and i was surprised that i had no true say in it.It came also close with windows 10,but i did as i said and took ownership of the folder where this resides and deleted it since i like W8.1 So the upgrade is not just a choice,microsoft will slowly push it onto you if you let it be.


    PrupleLobster said:

    as for an SSD I will use the one that I am already using for my laptop .

    Forgot about that one,you mentioned it,well it happens. ;)

    Build looks good.You really like the case? Since you have some money over from the original budget maybe look abit further at some cases.Me myself would spend that at something like this,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/34176/phanteks-enthoo-pro-m-acrylic-window-edition
    or this,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/34580/phanteks-eclipse-p400-window-anthracite-grey (more colors available)
    not my taste but something else,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/32023/nanoxia-deep-silence-4-claw-black-red-case
    but,like with the gpu as mentioned,is that's up to you.
  33. case is good IMO (material, space, fans, 40cm GPU lenght)

    Don't forget about CPU cooler, stock one is not ideal.
    Try Noctua (more expesive but really silent, for locked (not K) cpu overpriced) or CM one this or this
  34. If he wants some extra cooling for the cpu would this one be fine and good quality,
    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33459/cryorig-m9i-cpu-cooler

    Looked at the latest build again.Since you already own an ssd isn't it necessary to add one,or the new one must be larger.
    I would keep to the wifi card with the movable antenna,it can be placed there where you get the best signal.Sometimes even just a few centimeters can help.
    Again,if you like your choice of case just go for it. ;)
  35. You can consider This i5 6500 because 6600 is not worth extra $32, and get This case. The case is a budget recommendation by HardwareCanucks. Then buy some beer with the change.
  36. I think I will stick with the case I have. it's cheap and it works with great reviews on the internet.
    I will be getting this cooler https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33459/cryorig-m9i-cpu-cooler I looks at some of the review and it looks good and cheap.

    I think I will be ordering this computer today. thank you every one for your time and help!

    edit: also it doesn't really matter what internet connection I get. I only get 6.5mbps anyways. Australian internet speed.
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