FX-8350 or FX-9590 for ASUS CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z

[BetaJedi]

Hi guys,

Looking to upgrade some of my hardware, and I'm already set on using an ASUS CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z. Although I'm running in to a bit of a pickle when it comes down to the processor.

I've noticed that the 9590 and 8350 have a lot of similarities, but also a few major features that make each better than the other.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these seem to be the main factors that people tend to argue about the two (as far as I can tell from other threads):

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  ■ 9590 has more cache (16MB) which is double that of the 8350 (8MB).
  ■ 9590 of course has a higher base clock speed (4.7 GHz).
  ■ 9590 has better single core performance (taken from here)
  ■ 8350 consumes less power and produces less heat.
  ■ 8350 is cheaper, and "identical" to 9590, just needs overclocking to reach the same speed (source)

I intend to use this system for gaming (hoping to run some powerful ENB's on Skyrim, etc), and my graphics card is currently a Radeon R9 270X. (Will be upgrading this too if people think this bottlenecks me.) I'd prefer to save as much money as I can, but I'm not too bothered about the extra expenditure.

I know there are a lot of threads like this, but I just wanted to know what people think is better for me to buy if I intend to use this motherboard. I've not yet decided on whether I'm going to upgrade any other specs, but intend to cool both of these options with a Corsair H80i V2 cooler. I'm also asking on behalf of a few friends that don't have TH accounts, who intend to build machines with similar specs.

Any other criticisms about the motherboard, the processor(s), and the graphics card are welcome.

Thanks.

 

[Alan Caldwell]

For all this, the i5 6600k will be a much better choice as far as gaming goes.

 

[BetaJedi]

For all this, the i5 6600k will be a much better choice as far as gaming goes.

Hi Alan, thanks for the speedy reply.

Unfortunately I've already got the CROSSHAIR V motherboard, so I'm afraid that intel is out of the question (unless I buy a new board).

If I went down the intel road, what motherboard could you suggest instead?

Cheers

 

[Alan Caldwell]

Gigabyte G1 Z170X Gaming 5, much cheaper I think, AMD performs poorly in gaming, so Intel is better.

 

[Ecky]

Agreed, better to sell the board than go with a 4-5 year old AMD CPU.

I'm a fan of the value ASRock provides, so I'd go with one of their less expensive Z170 offerings and pair it with an i5 6600K or i7 6700K.

If you don't plan to overclock, use an H170 board and a non-K CPU.

 

[BetaJedi]

Hi both, thanks for answering.

I must admit, after having a few AMD builds, I'm noticing that they just aren't performing as well as I hope they would when it comes to games. The general consensus seems to be that Intel is far better for gaming. So I must admit I'm swaying towards an Intel machine a little more.

For this thread though, and future people who may look at it with some similar questions, have either of you got any input for the processors and motherboard mentioned?

Thanks for your input!

 

[Ecky]

If you intend to overclock, this combo offers a lot of value:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157636&cm_re=asrock_z170-_-13-157-636-_-Product
+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117561&cm_re=6600k-_-19-117-561-_-Product
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117559&cm_re=6700k-_-19-117-559-_-Product

Unlike AMD chips, any Intel CPU will run fine on any Intel chipset/board, it's more a matter of buying a board with the features you want. The power requirements are a lot lower, with Intel's top-end i7 drawing less power than AMD's lowest-end FX. A Z170 chipset is required to overclock. If you don't want to overclock, you can save some money with this combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157682&cm_re=asrock_h170-_-13-157-682-_-Product
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157645&cm_re=asrock_b150-_-13-157-645-_-Product
+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117563&cm_re=i5_6500-_-19-117-563-_-Product
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117560&cm_re=i7_6700-_-19-117-560-_-Product

 

[Ecky]

Different manufacturers offer different features to help them stand out. Asus often has proprietary audio codecs, while Gigabyte is known for putting a proprietary NIC on their boards. However, there won't be any difference in stability between the least expensive and most expensive board.

 

[BetaJedi]

If you intend to overclock, this combo offers a lot of value:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157636&cm_re=asrock_z170-_-13-157-636-_-Product
+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117561&cm_re=6600k-_-19-117-561-_-Product
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117559&cm_re=6700k-_-19-117-559-_-Product

Unlike AMD chips, any Intel CPU will run fine on any Intel chipset/board, it's more a matter of buying a board with the features you want. The power requirements are a lot lower, with Intel's top-end i7 drawing less power than AMD's lowest-end FX. A Z170 chipset is required to overclock. If you don't want to overclock, you can save some money with this combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157682&cm_re=asrock_h170-_-13-157-682-_-Product
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157645&cm_re=asrock_b150-_-13-157-645-_-Product
+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117563&cm_re=i5_6500-_-19-117-563-_-Product
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117560&cm_re=i7_6700-_-19-117-560-_-Product

Different manufacturers offer different features to help them stand out. Asus often has proprietary audio codecs, while Gigabyte is known for putting a proprietary NIC on their boards. However, there won't be any difference in stability between the least expensive and most expensive board.

Thanks a lot for this input, Ecky. I'll have a look at your suggestions!

 

[Alan Caldwell]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $438.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-19 10:15 EDT-0400

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $544.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-19 10:17 EDT-0400

The i5 is more than enough for gaming. To give you a clear picture, the i5 4440 doesn't bottleneck a GTX 970 SLI!

 

[BetaJedi]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $438.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-19 10:15 EDT-0400

=====================================================================

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $544.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-19 10:17 EDT-0400

The i5 is more than enough for gaming. To give you a clear picture, the i5 4440 doesn't bottleneck a GTX 970 SLI!

Thanks a lot Alan, I'll check this hardware out!

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

Sorry, my answer is a bit late, but just read this post I made for everything you need to know about how shitty the 9590 is:

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-3051404/buy-amd-9590.html

If you were going to buy one of these, definitely get the 8350. If you can think Intel though, then make the smart choice and buy a processor that can actually game, like the 4460, the 4690k, or the 6600k.

 

[BetaJedi]

Sorry, my answer is a bit late, but just read this post I made for everything you need to know about how shitty the 9590 is:

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-3051404/buy-amd-9590.html

If you were going to buy one of these, definitely get the 8350. If you can think Intel though, then make the smart choice and buy a processor that can actually game, like the 4460, the 4690k, or the 6600k.

Hi Crossfire, thanks for your reply.

That's a very informative page, thanks very much. Very helpful.