Am I bottlenecking?

Prodangle5454

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I use my computer for gaming. I play H1Z1 and DayZ mainly and my frames are not good. And on DayZ, I turned down the settings all the way and still only get 15 - 20 fps. Ive decided i needed to upgrade my graphics card and I am planning on going with the GTX 1070. First I want too know whether it is compatible with my build? I am restricted to DDR3 memory because of my motherboard. I am also nervous that I will be bottlenecking the GPU too much. Will I experience higher FPS with this new GPU? Here is my build...

AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor

Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Asus Radeon HD 7770 2GB Video Card

Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case

XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

Thank you




 
Ya you should have better framerates. However, you will still see some bottlenecking on CPU heavy games.

That said DayZ is pretty poorly optimized so regardless of what you do it may still not run fantastically.
 
Hmmm I have seen this kind of post many many times now and I have told each one the same thing.

Dayz and H1Z1's optimization is right out the window and people with i7's and GTX 980's are hardly getting decent usages out of the games. The games have no idea how to use powerful hardware. I tested with my i7 and GTX 970 and I was getting 20% on my GPU!. I can play Witcher 3 maxed 1080p 60fps no issues and it way more demanding than the games you want to play.

Don't buy a pc just for two poorly optimized crummy games when you could be playing many other games that actually use your hardware so you can crank up the settings.

Yes the card you have is pretty bad. That card can just about play battlefield 3....

At some point upgrade your GPU,

Regards.
 

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Yah I completely agree. Those are just the games I want to play right now. But in the future, when new games come out and they are more demanding, will I be able to handle it?

 

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As Wayfall told you.
Those games dont have their optimizations right and without a proper optimization guys with highest of the end systems will have issues because the software isnt even programmed right.

There are lots of other games like that so it all varies game to game.
 

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Yah they are poorly optimized but I am looking into the future. Will I be able to run the newer games? Like Battlefield 1?
 

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Do you think that the R9 390 would be better than the gtx 1070?

 

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No, the 1070 is way better than the 390.
 
Do you have any evidence of that? The 1070 is supposed to perform as good as a 980 for less money.
The R9 390 is for sale right now, and performs as good as a 980 for way less money.

It is more effecient, sure. But people would swear the 980 was better than a 390 too. But when they actually came out, and actually started doing benchmarks... the 390 was still owning up at half the price.
 

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Ok thanks for the help everyone. I am planning on getting the GTX 1070
 

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Check the reviews and benchmarks. The 390 competed with the 970. The 1070 is around Titan x and even beats the fury x.
 
If by compete with you mean in the same price range, then yeah, they are competitors.

If by actual performance you mean competitors, you're talking crazy. The R9 390 dominates the 970 in pretty much every contest, even ones where NVIDIA is given the edge in biased synthetic testing. The 390 competes with the 980, and often beats it at 1440p and 4k.

There are no meaningful benchmarks available yet, it is all hype.
 

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Looks like it competes with the 970 to me. The 390x competes with the 980.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_390_PCS_Plus/30.html

I must have imagined these 1070 reviews

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-pascal-performance,review-33567-3.html
 

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Yeah, the 1070 spanks the 390 pretty thoroughly. It's sheer fanboism to not admit that.

It's also the same from the other side to assume that reviews of a 390 from a year ago reflect how they perform today. My 390 at home, right now, does Tomb Raider at 4k and averages ~49 fps, not 41. Yay for game patches and driver updates.

Edit: All of that being said, I still wouldn't recommend a 390. If you're not getting a 1070, the next card you should consider is a 480. If you're buying new, hold for a month and don't even consider a card that wasn't released in the last 3 months, regardless of vendor. That's all old, dead tech.
 

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It'd be stupid to go for older gen cards when new ones are rolling out, even AMD spanked its own 390. haha.
Unless ofcourse you had budget issues then getting old used cards aint bad.
 

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Defintely.
Take BF4 as an example my friend is running it on R7 360 at Medium settings!

 

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I think that my build with 1070 in it will have no problem running the battlefields (4 and 1) on medium to high settings. Thanks for the help everyone.
 

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At 1080p, your shouldn't have much of a problem doing BF4 at medium with what you have right now. Might have to drop one or two setting from the "Medium" preset, but you should already be close. A 1070 in your system would be able to lock everything at ultra on a 1440p monitor.
 


There is some initial benches on the 1070 and you are right it will run battlefield (4 and 1) wonderfully.

If the $380-$400 mark is to high you might wait for the RX 480 later.
 
Well if cash is an issues you can get any of these GPU that should be able to play the new games at least high settings 1080p, thou I added the new card at the end to just put in perspective.
From less powerful to stronger:
-GTX 960
-AMD Radeon HD 7970
-GTX 970
-AMD R9 390/x
-GTX 980/TI
-GTX Titan X
-(New Polaris GPU)
-GTX 1070
-(New Polaris GPU)
-GTX 1080/TI
(The GTX Titan X vs the GTX 1070 is only a guess as we do not have fixed info yet)

I still don't see the reason why you need to go 1440p yet as the resolution is a huger performance hog, I have stuck with 1080p for a long while as it is standard video resolution and means I can crank all my settings to ultra with still a good 10-30fps above 60fps.

The last gen of cards are still very powerful and aren't worth throwing away yet...
 


Yes I have buddy and yes 1440p is better, of course it is I admit that.

Though for the price is costs for the monitor and the 1440p capable GPU you need I don't see it as worth it when you can get a really good 1080p monitor really cheap now and the line of GPU's out that can max games at 1080p is pretty decent at a lower cost of what you would have to pay for a 1440p monitor the GPU for near maxed settings.

This is my opinion and only mine, that it is not worth it as 1440p will eat most of your GPUs power and so you will have to turn some settings down while with 1080p you will have left over power for higher settings.

I never buy new lines of tech till it one year or so old as it is not worth buying new tech at the bloated prices, especially when your counting your pennies as not all people are swimming in cash . My GTX 970 is not even one year old yet, it nearly is. The last gen GTX 900 and AMD R9 300 series are still fully capable and a hell of a lot cheaper.