Sup' everyone,
I'm a freelance 3D Artist and also love playing games. My current PC (just so you know where I'm coming from) which I build about 3 Years ago is slowly dragging me down for both purposes:
Intel i7-2600K
Asus p6z68-v pro gen3
16 GB Ram
Evga GTX-570 HD (an MSI GTX 1070 Gaming is already on it's way because playing games with the gtx-570 is already nearly impossible)
Samsung 830 320GB SSD
First of all, I'm planing on building up a new machine but It's not urgent or let's say it will happen in about 2-3 months.
I still would like to hear your thoughts on this today since I didn't stay up to date when it comes to recent hardware generations as much and you guys know much more about it all anyway.
Also, maybe you know that something, worth waiting for even longer is just around the corner.
1. Budget/Location
The budget would be something around 2.000 € but it's rather flexible and if it makes sense could go up to 3.000 €.
I don't need a craphics card since I already ordered a GTX 1070 and plan on puting it into the new workstation once I build it up.
Also things like new monitors etc. are not needed for now.
I live in Germany.
2. Aim
What I need the workstation for: I'm working mainly (70% of the time) with Autodesk 3D's Max + Vray creating 3D visualisations. Besides that some Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign and a bit Premiere/After Effects.
As for games mainly shooters, such as BF3, Homefront the Revolution and new ones to come...
For my work CPU power, and especially the number of cores/threads as well as sufficient RAM (32+ GB) is most essential.
GPU rendering can be helpful for progressive rendering while setting up lighting etc but it's not that important in my case. That is also why I definitely do not need a Quadro or FirePro (those won't allow much gaming anyway).
I would need 1x SSD for the System/Apps, optionaly 1xSSD for "active" job projects and definitely 1x 2 TB HDD.
3. Monitors?
I don't need any for now. The one's I'm currently using:
1 x EIZO CG222W (1680x1050) & 1x cheap Samsung Screen (1680x1050)
Yes, I do plan on upgrading to higher resolution screens at some point but that can wait for now.
4. Peripherals
I will not need any extra peripherals but I will need a new Microsoft licence (running win7 now, I guess I might need a win10).
5. Why are you upgrading?
Well, my current system is getting slow for my work. Recently I had the pleasure of working on several HP Workstations Z8xx while on a job.
Seeing 50+ render buckets finishing an image in such a short time does leave a "deep scar" in one's mind.
Btw. those workstations were equiped with high end Quadros and it still didn't make a big difference... at least not for the type of work and software that was used.
6. My Ideas/Plans
I think that a Dual Xeon build makes most sense but...
There is one thing I can't decide on though because I'm probably just stupid.
Should I buy two Xeons of the older generations that are cheaper and build those in?
Or should I buy just one newer powerfull 10-14 Core Xeon CPU for now and add a second one later when I realize that I need the extra power and have the extra money.
I'm seeing lots of dual Xeon builds on youtube with the Xeon E5-2670 since it is so freaking cheap but I really don't know/understand the performance difference between the CPU generations.
Is v1 much slower than the v4 broadwells or am I sacrificing something else completely?
One thing is clear, if I build this thing up I want it to last 4-5 years, or at least that I can upgrade it in some meaningful way. So I assume it should be a 2011-3 socket board?
I'm aware that gaming uses less number of cores but instead needs higher clock speeds per core. As for my rendering work more cores/threads would probably be more benefitial.
Hence the dilema choosing between let's say a 8 core 3.0 ghz CPU or a 12 core 2.4 ghz CPU.
Sorry for writting that much but I hope that way you might understand better what I'm looking for and what my options are.
Thanks a lot in advance for any tips and recommendations!
I'm a freelance 3D Artist and also love playing games. My current PC (just so you know where I'm coming from) which I build about 3 Years ago is slowly dragging me down for both purposes:
Intel i7-2600K
Asus p6z68-v pro gen3
16 GB Ram
Evga GTX-570 HD (an MSI GTX 1070 Gaming is already on it's way because playing games with the gtx-570 is already nearly impossible)
Samsung 830 320GB SSD
First of all, I'm planing on building up a new machine but It's not urgent or let's say it will happen in about 2-3 months.
I still would like to hear your thoughts on this today since I didn't stay up to date when it comes to recent hardware generations as much and you guys know much more about it all anyway.
Also, maybe you know that something, worth waiting for even longer is just around the corner.
1. Budget/Location
The budget would be something around 2.000 € but it's rather flexible and if it makes sense could go up to 3.000 €.
I don't need a craphics card since I already ordered a GTX 1070 and plan on puting it into the new workstation once I build it up.
Also things like new monitors etc. are not needed for now.
I live in Germany.
2. Aim
What I need the workstation for: I'm working mainly (70% of the time) with Autodesk 3D's Max + Vray creating 3D visualisations. Besides that some Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign and a bit Premiere/After Effects.
As for games mainly shooters, such as BF3, Homefront the Revolution and new ones to come...
For my work CPU power, and especially the number of cores/threads as well as sufficient RAM (32+ GB) is most essential.
GPU rendering can be helpful for progressive rendering while setting up lighting etc but it's not that important in my case. That is also why I definitely do not need a Quadro or FirePro (those won't allow much gaming anyway).
I would need 1x SSD for the System/Apps, optionaly 1xSSD for "active" job projects and definitely 1x 2 TB HDD.
3. Monitors?
I don't need any for now. The one's I'm currently using:
1 x EIZO CG222W (1680x1050) & 1x cheap Samsung Screen (1680x1050)
Yes, I do plan on upgrading to higher resolution screens at some point but that can wait for now.
4. Peripherals
I will not need any extra peripherals but I will need a new Microsoft licence (running win7 now, I guess I might need a win10).
5. Why are you upgrading?
Well, my current system is getting slow for my work. Recently I had the pleasure of working on several HP Workstations Z8xx while on a job.
Seeing 50+ render buckets finishing an image in such a short time does leave a "deep scar" in one's mind.
Btw. those workstations were equiped with high end Quadros and it still didn't make a big difference... at least not for the type of work and software that was used.
6. My Ideas/Plans
I think that a Dual Xeon build makes most sense but...
There is one thing I can't decide on though because I'm probably just stupid.
Should I buy two Xeons of the older generations that are cheaper and build those in?
Or should I buy just one newer powerfull 10-14 Core Xeon CPU for now and add a second one later when I realize that I need the extra power and have the extra money.
I'm seeing lots of dual Xeon builds on youtube with the Xeon E5-2670 since it is so freaking cheap but I really don't know/understand the performance difference between the CPU generations.
Is v1 much slower than the v4 broadwells or am I sacrificing something else completely?
One thing is clear, if I build this thing up I want it to last 4-5 years, or at least that I can upgrade it in some meaningful way. So I assume it should be a 2011-3 socket board?
I'm aware that gaming uses less number of cores but instead needs higher clock speeds per core. As for my rendering work more cores/threads would probably be more benefitial.
Hence the dilema choosing between let's say a 8 core 3.0 ghz CPU or a 12 core 2.4 ghz CPU.
Sorry for writting that much but I hope that way you might understand better what I'm looking for and what my options are.
Thanks a lot in advance for any tips and recommendations!
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