GTX 1050ti bottleneck

[kalbo13000]

ive had a amd a10 5800k for a while now and really want a boost in power i could get a 750 regular of one of my freinds cos he just upgraded but if i bought a 1050ti would the bottleneck be that bad

 

[Ecky]

I'm going to refer you to this thread I posted in:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3166234/amd-a10-6790k-gigabyte-gtx-1070-cpu-bottleneck-gpu.html

I feel most people have a misunderstanding of how bottlenecks work. Your CPU will not cause you to have reduced GPU utilization directly. Rather, imagine that in a particular scene in a particular game, your old GPU can deliver 20fps at high graphical settings, 30fps at medium, and 50fps at low. Your new GPU can deliver 40fps at high, 60fps at medium, and 100fps at low. Your CPU will not allow the game to ever go above 45fps. What this means is that with your old GPU, your GPU utilization would not have been 100% at low, but would have at medium or high. your new GPU's utilization would be 100% only at high.

However, GPU utilization is irrelevant. If you're happy with 45fps, your GPU upgrade would let you have higher graphical settings at your same 45fps, but due to your CPU you would never get above that. If 45fps isn't enough for you, you really wanted a CPU upgrade, because you could've gotten higher framerates with your old card and a better CPU, just with lower graphical settings.

EDIT: The maximum framerate you can achieve will vary from game to game, and the only way to know what it is, is to test. Lower your graphical settings and resolution, and you'll see what your CPU's limits are. If the framerate is still high enough in all of the games you play, then there's no need for a new CPU.

 

[kalbo13000]

I'm going to refer you to this thread I posted in:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3166234/amd-a10-6790k-gigabyte-gtx-1070-cpu-bottleneck-gpu.html

I feel most people have a misunderstanding of how bottlenecks work. Your CPU will not cause you to have reduced GPU utilization directly. Rather, imagine that in a particular scene in a particular game, your old GPU can deliver 20fps at high graphical settings, 30fps at medium, and 50fps at low. Your new GPU can deliver 40fps at high, 60fps at medium, and 100fps at low. Your CPU will not allow the game to ever go above 45fps. What this means is that with your old GPU, your GPU utilization would not have been 100% at low, but would have at medium or high. your new GPU's utilization would be 100% only at high.

However, GPU utilization is irrelevant. If you're happy with 45fps, your GPU upgrade would let you have higher graphical settings at your same 45fps, but due to your CPU you would never get above that. If 45fps isn't enough for you, you really wanted a CPU upgrade, because you could've gotten higher framerates with your old card and a better CPU, just with lower graphical settings.

EDIT: The maximum framerate you can achieve will vary from game to game, and the only way to know what it is, is to test. Lower your graphical settings and resolution, and you'll see what your CPU's limits are. If the framerate is still high enough in all of the games you play, then there's no need for a new CPU.

Ok i get what you mean but would that cpu be good enough to play newer games alongside the 1050ti or would it hold the fps back in newer triple a titles eg battlefield one syrim remaster etc and if i were to have to get a new cpu would you recommend getting a gtx 1060 instead

 

[Ecky]

More expensive hardware will run games better, of course. You buy a faster video card if you want to be able to crank the graphics up more, and a faster CPU if the one you have won't deliver the framerates you want. You can hit any framerate with (almost) any video card, it's just a matter of how low you're willing to go on graphical settings.

An i3 6100 will deliver 60fps in many titles, and will keep it above 40 in even the more demanding. An i5 6500 is adequate for 60fps most titles except for a few AAA games such as GTA V, which you'd need an i7 to stay above 60fps for. If you have a 120 or 144hz monitor, an i7 is basically a requirement to get near that framerate in recent games.

It will vary from game to game, and depending on your expectations.

 

[kalbo13000]

More expensive hardware will run games better, of course. You buy a faster video card if you want to be able to crank the graphics up more, and a faster CPU if the one you have won't deliver the framerates you want. You can hit any framerate with (almost) any video card, it's just a matter of how low you're willing to go on graphical settings.

An i3 6100 will deliver 60fps in many titles, and will keep it above 40 in even the more demanding. An i5 6500 is adequate for 60fps most titles except for a few AAA games such as GTA V, which you'd need an i7 to stay above 60fps for. If you have a 120 or 144hz monitor, an i7 is basically a requirement to get near that framerate in recent games.

It will vary from game to game, and depending on your expectations.

ok so a i36100 is the low end of good cpus i5 6400 or 6500 is good and a i7 is overkill for most. is there any point in waiting for zen next year from amd and do you think thta my 5800k and aa 1050ti would deliver good framerates

 

[Ecky]

The 5800k will be playable in all games but some might be a bit slow. Older games will run great. The 1050Ti is about as fast as my HD7850 and I'm able to run most new games at 1920x1200 with medium graphical settings, and older or indie games maxed out.

Zen is expected to be slower per clock than Intel's existing SKylake architecture, and there's good indication it will be clocked lower too. It will have more cores (8 core / 16 thread) so it looks to me more like a workstation CPU, rather than one you'd want for gaming. Given its 8 cores, I speculate you won't be able to get one for less than $500, possibly as much as $800 at launch.

 

[kalbo13000]

The 5800k will be playable in all games but some might be a bit slow. Older games will run great. The 1050Ti is about as fast as my HD7850 and I'm able to run most new games at 1920x1200 with medium graphical settings, and older or indie games maxed out.

Zen is expected to be slower per clock than Intel's existing SKylake architecture, and there's good indication it will be clocked lower too. It will have more cores (8 core / 16 thread) so it looks to me more like a workstation CPU, rather than one you'd want for gaming. Given its 8 cores, I speculate you won't be able to get one for less than $500, possibly as much as $800 at launch.

last question would i be better of getting a rx 470 or 1050ti and thanks for all the help

 

[Ecky]

The RX 470 is much faster, but also less power efficient.