Upgrading/Future-proofing my PC, need assistance.

[HentaTenta]

Hello, esteemed gurus.
I'm upgrading my build, and would like some advices regarding the parts I've picked, but did not buy yet.
The PC is for gaming, some light video and photo editing as well, but mostly gaming. I plan to lightly OC both cpu and gpu.

What I have now
CPU - i5 4670K with Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard - MSI Z97 GAMING 7
RAM - 16Gb of some old DDR3 at 1333
GPU - Radeon HD 7970 3Gb
Storage - 240Gb SSD and some HDDs that I will not be replacing
PSU - some 750W Corsair PSU that I will not be replacing
Monitor - 22" 1080p 60hz Asus monitor

What I was planning on getting
CPU - i5-7600K (319 CAD)
Motherboard - Asus PRIME Z270-A ATX (230 CAD)
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 (165 CAD)
GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming (750 CAD)
Monitor - Acer G257HU smidpx 25.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor (420 CAD)

Questions
I'm planning on not touching the components for the next 3-5 years after I upgrade this time.
I am totally open to change the components in case I was being retarded with the choices I made while making this list. The only thing, I wish to go with a gtx1080 (I was with different radeon products for my last 3 builds, I've never had a geforce), but which particular 1080, it's up for discussion.
Also, regarding the monitor, I do not know what is better; a 1080p 120hz or 1440p 60hz. I'm pretty sure I can't afford a 1440p 120hz.
The price of components can vary, rationally. The total of the listed components is ~1900 CAD, so lets say ~2100 is max.

Thank you for your attention and your time.

 

[Chugalug_]

Not a good idea, the 7600k is only a minimal improvement over the 4670k, only difference is clock speeds.
If you're going to upgrade get the 4790k and stick an OC on it, you can pair it with a top end GPU.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($455.50 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($954.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: LG - 27UD68-W 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($499.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1973.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-16 02:06 EDT-0400

 

[cryoburner]

The only thing, I wish to go with a gtx1080 (I was with different radeon products for my last 3 builds, I've never had a geforce), but which particular 1080, it's up for discussion.

It also might be worth waiting a bit to see what AMD's high-end Vega GPUs have to offer, as it sounds like they may be coming next month, and offering performance at a comparable level to the GTX 1080. Even if they don't outclass Nvidia's high-end cards, it's likely that they'll offer comparable performance at a better price.

 

[Chugalug_]

Yeah, Vega is coming out soon, even if the comparable card doesn't beat the 1080 prices will probably drop by a decent margin.

 

[sizzling]

Is there a definite timeline on Vega? I read a couple of weeks ago it might be this year but,also it might be Q1 2018?

 

[Chugalug_]

It is this year, price points and competition markets have been revealed as of yesterday.
June 5th.
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-cards-reportedly-launching-june-5th-lineup-includes-3-skus-priced-at-599-499-399/

 

[HentaTenta]

Not a good idea, the 7600k is only a minimal improvement over the 4670k, only difference is clock speeds.
If you're going to upgrade get the 4790k and stick an OC on it, you can pair it with a top end GPU.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($455.50 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($954.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: LG - 27UD68-W 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($499.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1973.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-16 02:06 EDT-0400

Cheezus, a 4K monitor and a Titan... I don't think I'm ready for that, lol.
What would be an option, if we go a bit less extravagant than the 4k/Titan variant? The total is almost 2k, not including mobo and ram.

The only thing, I wish to go with a gtx1080 (I was with different radeon products for my last 3 builds, I've never had a geforce), but which particular 1080, it's up for discussion.

It also might be worth waiting a bit to see what AMD's high-end Vega GPUs have to offer, as it sounds like they may be coming next month, and offering performance at a comparable level to the GTX 1080. Even if they don't outclass Nvidia's high-end cards, it's likely that they'll offer comparable performance at a better price.

I'm in no particular rush to upgrade right now. I can wait for the new release, I guess.

 

[Chugalug_]

You can reuse your current motherboard and RAM, hence why i've put the 4790k in there instead.
You can also keep your current cooler if you only plan on a moderate/light OC.

 

[HentaTenta]

You can reuse your current motherboard and RAM, hence why i've put the 4790k in there instead.
You can also keep your current cooler if you only plan on a moderate/light OC.

Ok, another question then; does it make sense dropping almost 500$ on a cpu that came out in 2014? Isn't there something more recent that I can incorporate into my build? I mean, 4790k is already 3 years old...
Your gpu pick is crème de la crème of what I can get now...But then I'll be keeping my old mobo and a 2014 CPU...Will the mobo/cpu be enough in the long run?

 

[Chugalug_]

There's only been small improvements in performance over the last two years, 10% IPC gains with Skylake and then just clock speed gains with Kaby Lake.
Get the 4790k, drop a nice OC on it and you have a top of the line CPU, it'll last you ages, no need to worry.
Maxed out 4k 60fps here we come.

 

[HentaTenta]

There's only been small improvements in performance over the last two years, 10% IPC gains with Skylake and then just clock speed gains with Kaby Lake.
Get the 4790k, drop a nice OC on it and you have a top of the line CPU, it'll last you ages, no need to worry.
Maxed out 4k 60fps here we come.

Goddamn...4k and Titan is something that I've never even dreamed about...

Another question then... You told me to keep my old ram as well...There is no point of moving from ddr3 1333mhz to ddr4 3000 mhz? The speeds do not matter that much to upgrade?

Also, I guess I'll get the monitor right now, since amazon has some ridiculous special on it, and the 4790k as well. Then I'll wait for the new gpu to drop, before getting the Ti.



lol, what the hell will I be doing with the 4k monitor while i still have my 7970 :lol:

 

[Chugalug_]

Nope, frequency doesn't make that much difference in gaming, only really in rendering scenarios.
Sounds good.
Wait for Vega to release, the 1080Ti will still be the better performing card for sure though, since it's competitor is the same as the 1080 competitor for Vega, except on water cooling.

 

[HentaTenta]

Alright, last question - Will I have to reinstall win10 after installing a new cpu in my old mobo?

 

[Chugalug_]

No, only if you replace the motherboard.
It's a matter of swap and run.

 

[HentaTenta]

Chugalug_, sir, you are a gentleman, and a scholar. Thank you for bearing with me and thank you for your time and advice.

 

[Chugalug_]

No worries at all, feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.

 

[cryoburner]

Is there a definite timeline on Vega? I read a couple of weeks ago it might be this year but,also it might be Q1 2018?

It is this year, price points and competition markets have been revealed as of yesterday.
June 5th.
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-cards-reportedly-launching-june-5th-lineup-includes-3-skus-priced-at-599-499-399/

Yeah, Vega has been slated for "first half of 2017" release for a while now, which would mean by the end of June at the latest. I hadn't seen these latest rumors yet, though they seem like they might be reasonably accurate. The prices of the first two cards don't appear to be any lower than Nvidia's though, so if the prices are true, I would expect better performance at each of those price points. That would mean there's still a fairly large price and performance gap between the RX 580 and the Vega Core though. Maybe we'll see another card to fill that gap before long.

As for 2018, that's likely when Navi GPUs will launch, which is AMD's next architecture that will apparently include models from low to high-end. There isn't much info on what the exact time frame for that will be, but apparently AMD will be outlining more details related to Vega and their other upcoming GPUs and CPUs later today.

Wait for Vega to release, the 1080Ti will still be the better performing card for sure though, since it's competitor is the same as the 1080 competitor for Vega, except on water cooling.

Maybe. Like I said before though, if AMD is launching its first two Vega cards at the same price points as NVidia's existing GTX 1070 and 1080, then they will most likely perform better. So it's likely that the $399 USD card will offer performance somewhere between a 1070 and 1080, and that the $499 card will offer performance somewhere between a 1080 and 1080 Ti. If that's the case, then the performance of the $599 card might potentially edge high enough to compete with a 1080 Ti, or at least come close, at $100 less.

 

[HentaTenta]

No worries at all, feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.

Gondor calls for aid!

I have to reanimate this thread;
My mobo is dying,apparently, and good thing it happens before I bought the 4790k.
If I'm changing the mobo anyways, what would you advise on what to get?
What is a cheap combo that can at least be on par with the z97/4790k ? What would you pick as a safe duo that will prevent me from upgrading anytime soon?

 

[Chugalug_]

What's your remaining budget?
Have you ordered anything yet?

 

[HentaTenta]

What's your remaining budget?
Have you ordered anything yet?

I ordered only the monitor. The budget is... Whatever, I'll spend a bit more if I have to. That's why I asked what would be the cheapest alternative, and what would YOU suggest. Can I get something optimal for $500-600 cad? If not, what are my options?

 

[Chugalug_]

This is what you're looking at for the remaining stuff if you still wanted a k i7 since you'd need to get new RAM as well unless you went Skylake which I recommend doing.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($458.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($959.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1735.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-22 02:03 EDT-0400

Otherwise.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($439.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($959.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1612.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-22 02:05 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($439.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z170A-X1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($959.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1542.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-22 02:05 EDT-0400

 

[HentaTenta]

Ok, I guess I'll pick the first option. However, can I keep my 212 hyper evo?
Also, I know it's even more expensive (goddamnit), but I would like to go with asus prime Z270A. Is that one a green light from you?

 

[Chugalug_]

Forgot to change out the mobo for a Z270 in the second list.
The Z270-A is a solid board for sure, but if you're not planning on SLIing (Which is poor value anyway imo) the Pro4 will have pretty much the same performance.
i made a mistake with the 6700k lists in that I forgot to put in a DDR3 Z170 board.
They're not well priced atm, go for the 7700k list.

 

[elbert]

I wouldn't call the z270 future proof. If thats what you want get the new 2066 pin x299 next month with a 7640k.

 

[Chugalug_]

x299 is not going to be targeted at gaming, it's going to be an x99 refresh.