win10 keys and kinguin.for ADVISORS

[ARICH5]

Fellas: paladin
RCALD
13thmonkey
USAFRet
chugalug
sr-42


ok, what is our concensus on windows10 keys? the last few weeks ive been seeing alot of different opinions on this subject. lets get it all together under one roof. One advisor says one thing and one says the other, and the OP has no idea what to do.........I say bring a tomshardware Moderator Editor and look into it cuz this is getting us nowhere.

Kinguin? d/l from MS? copy to USB? d/l THEN wait and buy a key?what does MS say?mobo...cpu????????guh.

our priority is to give the best advice we can on the subject to the OP. if we are not together on the subject we might as well tell everyone to torrent win10.

everyone do some research and find the best answer.

thanks... and lets all come to a agreement.

 

[RCFProd]

our priority is to give the best advice we can on the subject to the OP. if we are not together on the subject we might as well tell everyone to torrent win10.

That's some solid way of backing up your argument.

/sarcasm

 

[ARICH5]

our priority is to give the best advice we can on the subject to the OP. if we are not together on the subject we might as well tell everyone to torrent win10.

That's some solid way of backing up your argument.

/sarcasm

lol true....i used an extreme....chugalug pointed that out "delete that post!!!!"

 

[RCFProd]

Windows keys from Kinguin and other third party sites are obtained illegaly, therefore it isn't any better than pirating a Windows copy instead. It is all equally illegal. Not a cent of it goes to Microsoft in any case.

 

[ARICH5]

i think....i dont know for sure but i think there is some PM's floating around here that are telling OP's to torrent win10....just a hunch. when an OP asks about win10 and an install, a non-badged advisor with a name syntax of xxxx-xx will answer. maybe just im paranoid.

 

[ARICH5]

xxx_xx

 

[ARICH5]

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3241510/buy-windows-key-kinguin.html

holy o.0

 

[ARICH5]

^^^^i was laffing my a55 off at that exchange.

 

[Rexper]

It isn't hard. A general rules is if it's too cheap to be true, it probably isn't true. In other words if its priced suspiciously cheap (< $70 USD) it is most likely isn't legitimate.

Keys sold via sites like that are most likely bought with a fraudulent credit card and/or violating Microsoft's TOS. By purchasing a key from those sites, you are supporting criminals and your Windows could be inactivated by Windows.

It is best to purchase from major, known retailers which can be found Here, or from the Microsoft Web Store.

If you are looking for a cheap alternative, you can use Windows for free however inactivated (no key), or use a free to use operating system like Linux, FreeBSD, etc.

After 1 month of usage the inactivated version of Windows loses personalisation features, forces a water mark, and constant notification asking to activate

 

[ARICH5]

It isn't hard. A general rules is if it's too cheap to be true, it probably isn't true. In other words if its priced suspiciously cheap (< $70 USD) it is most likely isn't legitimate.

Keys sold via sites like that are most likely bought with a fraudulent credit card and/or violating Microsoft's TOS. By purchasing a key from those sites, you are supporting criminals and your Windows could be inactivated by Windows.

It is best to purchase from major, known retailers which can be found Here, or from the Microsoft Web Store.

If you are looking for a cheap alternative, you can use Windows for free however inactivated (no key), or use a free to use operating system like Linux, FreeBSD, etc.

After 1 month of usage the inactivated version of Windows loses personalisation features, forces a water mark, and constant notification asking to activate

1 month...is that a sure thing? ive heard weeks...months...hours. different things.

 

[ARICH5]

i was jumped all over by others for saying "d/l win10 and then activate when you can afford it in a few days"

 

[13thmonkey]

The official line is that they are grey and we recommend against buying grey licenses.

 

[ARICH5]

"grey area" and "recommend" is pretty iffy.......even the word kinguin shouldnt be used here then. lump it together with pirating and torrenting. am i right?

 

[13thmonkey]

we recommend that they are not used, this is different from not recommending them (passive), we actively suggest that these are not good licenses.

A part of the problem with this is that the store itself is just a store, like ebay/craigslist, and it is possible that some licenses are valid perhaps from the developer themselves, but where it is too good to be true there are reasons behind that, and therefore we can only say 'buyer beware' and here's why.

 

[Rexper]

It isn't hard. A general rules is if it's too cheap to be true, it probably isn't true. In other words if its priced suspiciously cheap (< $70 USD) it is most likely isn't legitimate.

Keys sold via sites like that are most likely bought with a fraudulent credit card and/or violating Microsoft's TOS. By purchasing a key from those sites, you are supporting criminals and your Windows could be inactivated by Windows.

It is best to purchase from major, known retailers which can be found Here, or from the Microsoft Web Store.

If you are looking for a cheap alternative, you can use Windows for free however inactivated (no key), or use a free to use operating system like Linux, FreeBSD, etc.

After 1 month of usage the inactivated version of Windows loses personalisation features, forces a water mark, and constant notification asking to activate

1 month...is that a sure thing? ive heard weeks...months...hours. different things.

From researching, I don't believe there's a set time. Though it doesn't come all at once. Microsoft will slowly annoy you as time goes past, though many report they're perfectly fine with the unactivated Windows. You can read here: https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/

 

[ARICH5]

It isn't hard. A general rules is if it's too cheap to be true, it probably isn't true. In other words if its priced suspiciously cheap (< $70 USD) it is most likely isn't legitimate.

Keys sold via sites like that are most likely bought with a fraudulent credit card and/or violating Microsoft's TOS. By purchasing a key from those sites, you are supporting criminals and your Windows could be inactivated by Windows.

It is best to purchase from major, known retailers which can be found Here, or from the Microsoft Web Store.

If you are looking for a cheap alternative, you can use Windows for free however inactivated (no key), or use a free to use operating system like Linux, FreeBSD, etc.

After 1 month of usage the inactivated version of Windows loses personalisation features, forces a water mark, and constant notification asking to activate

1 month...is that a sure thing? ive heard weeks...months...hours. different things.

From researching, I don't believe there's a set time. Though it doesn't come all at once. Microsoft will slowly annoy you as time goes past, though many report they're perfectly fine with the unactivated Windows. You can read here: https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/

yes ive seen similar stories on youtube....win10 installation tutorials.

 

[COLGeek]

If a deal appears to be too good to be true, it often is.

As a rule we do not recommend the use of "grey market" resellers. If that advice is ignored, then buyer beware.

 

[ARICH5]

other than saying "we do not recommend" there's not much else we can do, hey?

 

[13thmonkey]

Also not grey area, grey licenses.

 

[ARICH5]

sounds like a congressional hearing. "did you or did you not........." "no sir, we do not recommend"....lol

 

[COLGeek]

other than saying "we do not recommend" there's not much else we can do, hey?

No. Also, no need to make a bigger deal than it is. There are some consumers who will always seek the best "deal" regardless of the advice offered.

 

[COLGeek]

sounds like a congressional hearing. "did you or did you not........." "no sir, we do not recommend"....lol

I suppose we could ban every member who even mentions one of these resellers...

 

[RCFProd]

This all being said, Windows licenses are really expensive in my opinion and hopefully they'll drop down a bit in the upcoming years. You'd say they have to with all these grey markets having appeared.

 

[COLGeek]

This all being said, Windows licenses are really expensive in my opinion and hopefully they'll drop down a bit in the upcoming years. You'd say they have to with all these grey markets having appeared.

I am sure there is a gaggle of MS lawyers who work these issues 24/7. MS needs to raise the $$$ to pay them! (please note implied sarcasm)

That being said, the cost of the product is what the market will bear. MS does represent a bit of a monopoly, regardless of alternative OSes. If the cost is truly a concern, go Linux and never look back.

Stealing, or selling questionable products, is not a good alternative to paying the market cost.

 

[ARICH5]

i dont think MS makes their $ from win10 though. gates isnt gagging for more customers.