people who build computers and own a shop.
why do you over charge so much, i mean i can understand wanting to make money but some shops ive been in charge like 1000 bucks extra for a pc that is worth like 1200, thats right soe guy was selling a pc for 2200 when it was worth 1200 tops i saved some old man from buying it for his son, who games. told him id put together a pc from old parts i had and i said id only chrge him 250 plus 50 for puting it together, that right there is just greed at its best, the ower was so mad he told me to leave, and i said dont worry i wot be back at these prices, all you guys who do tat your lucky people that dont know their shit dosent walk in your shop, like me.
I live in New Delhi, India. I don't own a shop but yes I do build PCs for others and some office setups. I never charge that high. Even with VAT and CC included I charge $100 for $1200 and $150 for $1500 or $50 for $250 as you did. Charging $1000 extra for $1200 PC is extreme. Are you sure they charge that high even $500 doesn't make much sense.
I live in the US and the most I charge is $40 for building/programming a system but TBH I love doing it so I don't really count it as work. Those that can't afford $40 (or less) then I typically don't charge or if they know something I don't then I can trade. I built a system recently for a buddy and he adjusted my chain and sprocket on my motorcycle which I felt was fair, home cooked meals are nice as well.
It's funny that the owner told you to leave because it reminded me of when I was in Best Buy near the Geeksqaud desk and this lady wanted her system restored to factory, which is easy, and they wanted to charge her $150. I told her I'd do it for $40 and they kicked me out of the store lol.
While I do think that 1k is excessive, realize that there is rent to pay, utilities to pay, and if you have employees, there is that cost too. Money pre-spent on inventory for parts or full builds also comes into play. Factor in taxes and all that and you have quite a bit to tack on to the costs of the parts. And finally, the store offers a warranty usually and that costs the store as well as they can't make money while fixing your PC.
Corwin65 said:While I do think that 1k is excessive, realize that there is rent to pay, utilities to pay, and if you have employees, there is that cost too. Money pre-spent on inventory for parts or full builds also comes into play. Factor in taxes and all that and you have quite a bit to tack on to the costs of the parts. And finally, the store offers a warranty usually and that costs the store as well as they can't make money while fixing your PC.
I included all that except for rent as if big companies as big as to maintain employees usually buy an area to setup the office as it is one time investment and it saves a lot on long run. Even including rent I wouldn't charge more than $150-200 extra over $1200 PC. The only exception I can think of is shipping charges when the office is located in one area and provides service to other states. But in that case there will be limitation of onsite warranty. Most companies provide services locally. If they plan on expanding their reach to other states they establish a local office there.
the shop is not only putting it together, they have to give you some warranty for what they're doing, they gotta do it professionally (if they put it together with bad cable management, I'd give it back and request to correct it) and usually help with the configuration.
furthermore they pay taxes for their service.
While I find prebuilds & custom shopbuilds heavily overpriced I do understand it to some degree.
also if you own a small computer shop you don't get the parts much cheaper than your customer.
if the equipment is worth 1200$ the shop might have to pay 950-1000$ for the parts. If they sell it for 1200 after tax they're making a loss ultimately.
IMO it's better a shop sells an i5+1060 computer for 2000$ but uses quality parts than those sellers praising their 1500$ premium gaming pc that comes with an i7 paired with a Rx460 & a proprietary Explosive Inc. PSU, mainboard & case
In India i5-7600K|ASUS Z270-P|16GB DDR4|SAMSUNG 750EVO 250GB|MSI TF GTX1070|WD BLUE 1TB|Corsair RM650x|Corsair 100R|Windows 10 costs $1500 I sell it for $1650 including everything. Which is $150 profit. Out of which even with TAX cut and CC I manage to get 45% off it which is $67.5 good amount.
I don't know how much money $67.5 is worth in India but that's a profit you can't live from in Europe
also it depends on: do I order, pick out and assemble all the parts or does someone give me all the parts he/she purchased already to assemble.
50-100$ for the ladder, alright
but if I basically do everything asking for a bit more is alright imo. you don't pay for only my time to assemble it but for my contacts and expertise as well. that has to be worth something, saving you time to not dive in to the matter.
Well that depends on how many one sells in a month. For example the above given specs are of top tier mid range PC which lets say only 30 people order per month. It gives $2000+ profit. That is one specific model. The lower the tier higher the sales. For example i3 PCs sale most here for basic work with profit of $15($30 Including TAXES etc.) and 500 of those got sold then the profit will be $7500 which is good enough. Adding both Tiers nearly $10000 per month.
This is just an example provided with only 2 models. Total is much higher.