HD 7870 + athlon 64 x2 4000+

[Marko_62]

I have an old PC specs:
mobo: winfast k8m890-8237
processor: AMD athlon 64 x2 4000+
ram: 8gb ddr2 800mhz
and sapphire 512mb graphics card,
i plain upgrate graphics card to HD 7870 2gb GDDR5
when i earn some money I plain upgrade motherboard and CPU and add 8gb DDR3 ram, what you say guys ?

 

[helpstar]

How much you wanna spend for a new graphics card?

the 7870 is quite old and used ones are getting defective more and more

 

[Marko_62]

what graphic card you suggest ?

 

[Peter_131]

The HD 7870 is in fact outdated, you should look for a newer one if you would like a decent gaming system. Also, you should most definitely swap your current specs for newer and better ones. I would recommend the RX460/560 or GTX 1050/1050 Ti if you don't want to spend a lot of money.

 

[helpstar]

most likely your power supply is outdated as well, which one is it? brand and model

 

[RobCrezz]

I wouldnt spend any more money on that system. Get enough to start again, its just a bit too far out of date.

 

[Marko_62]

yes it is outdated but I have one on the side ( Thermaltake LitePower, 550W )

 

[Marko_62]

Can I build good PC for 200$ ?
I can get rx 460 for 90$
I want play games like assassins creed IV on high/medium 1366x768

 

[Marko_62]

what you think about this:
intel i3 6100
ram ddr3 8gb
rx 460
Thermaltake LitePower, 550W
and wich board you suggest ?

 

[Peter_131]

what you think about this:
intel i3 6100
ram ddr3 8gb
rx 460
Thermaltake LitePower, 550W
and wich board you suggest ?

It's decent, but skylake motherboards usually support DDR4 and therefore you should go with a motherboard that supports skalyke processors and DDR4 ram and then of course with 8 gigs of DDR4

 

[Marko_62]

intel i3 6100 - 100$
ram ddr4 8gb - 133$ ( myb ddr3 for 80$ if won't have money )
rx 460 - 105$
Thermaltake LitePower, 550W - 26$

 

[Peter_131]

intel i3 6100 - 100$
ram ddr4 8gb - 133$ ( myb ddr3 for 80$ if won't have money )
rx 460 - 105$
Thermaltake LitePower, 550W - 26$

Pick a motherboard like a MSI H110m Pro vd, it's sufficient and cheap.

 

[helpstar]

go straight for kabylake:

get a Pentium G4560 with a B250 chipset board
8GB DDR4 RAM with at least 2400MHz

most likely this power supply is not compatible with power saving features of newer CPUs, choose a better one

like:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 460 2GB OC Single Fan Video Card ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($31.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $321.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-05 05:20 EDT-0400

 

[cryoburner]

The processor performance of an Athlon 64 x2 4000+ would likely be an issue in many newer games. One of my computers has a similar Athlon 64 processor, and they just don't have the per-core performance to handle most AAA games from the last few years at reasonable frame rates. Even low-end current generation processors offer around 2 to 3 times the performance per core.

It's difficult to say how well AC IV might run. An RX 460 should be plenty capable at handling the game fairly well at 1366x768, but the minimum requirements recommend a quad-core CPU with somewhat higher per-core performance, so the game's performance would definitely be CPU-limited. It might be playable, but I would expect the frame rate to often drop below 30fps. Also, being an older system, if the motherboard only has PCIe 1.1, it might not be compatible with an RX 460.

I agree with the recommendation to upgrade to a new CPU, motherboard and RAM. If you're on a tight budget, I would currently go with a Pentium G4560 system, like helpstar suggested, since it should be nearly as fast as an i3 6100. That will run you around $200 though, in addition to the graphics card.

 

[BFG-9000]

7870 is identical to R9 270x and R9 370x which came out only 2 years ago. It's a decently powerful card for that system if you only want to play retro games 10 years old or older, but a bit expensive for that as it still sells for ~$100 used. It's actually considerably faster than the same price RX460 but of course the 460 has a warranty as it's new.

The 5870 and 6870 are nearly as fast (would be about the same in that system) but often go for under $35 so would be a smarter buy for that old thing.

I suggest you save up some money for a new system complete with new video card if you want to play any modern games. In the meantime you could certainly play old games for ~$35 while you are waiting. Is that worth it to you?

 

[Marko_62]

i have one more PC , HP compaq elite b200 , wich graphics card you suggest ?
that PC has intel i5 2400 3.1Ghz , 4gb ddr3 ram , need just graphic card

 

[BFG-9000]

Then you do not need a new system to play modern games as that one's fast enough. If that's a SFF system that can take low profile dual-slot cards, the best cards for it are either the MSI 1050ti 4GT LP 4GB or MSI RX460 2GT LP 2GB (which loses the 2nd slotcover). Either should play anything modern at 1366x768 no problems, although you may wish to consider some additional DDR3 RAM for best results.

BTW if your old system's Sapphire 512MB card is a 4870, 5770, 6770 or similar it's already fast enough to play old games at low resolution, as those are half as fast as the mentioned 5870 or 6870.

 

[mdd1963]

Can I build good PC for 200$ ?
I can get rx 460 for 90$
I want play games like assassins creed IV on high/medium 1366x768

If you find someone selling/trading in their mb/cpu/ram combo from 3-4 years ago, perhaps....

But otherwise, $300 is what just a decent cpu/mb combo starts at......

 

[Marko_62]

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[RobCrezz]

Thats rude, how do you know he didnt work for the money to buy his system?

 

[Marko_62]

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[helpstar]

please edit your earlier post and delete your little outburst of fury

 

[salerhino]

I am not daddies son like you man, every dollar I earn with my hands, so fuck off

Where are you from?
Maybe I can find you some used parts which will serve you well.

 

[Marko_62]

Can I pair intel i5 2400 3.1 GHz with sapphire dual-x r9 270x 2gb gddr5 with 8gb ddr3 RAM to play games like assassins creed IV and GTA V cca 60 FPS on 1600x900 resolution ?

 

[Marko_62]

Salerhino , I am from Croatoa , I found some parts very cheam , example AMD A10 7870k (i can't rememmbre , i know some 7 numbers in model) for 53$