Future proof PC?

[eddyb95]

As the title suggests I am looking at making a new Gaming PC and would like help to insure that my Gaming PC will be future proof. Below are the specs of the rig, any advice for the build would be great. Thanks Everyone.

Case
Send In Your Own Case
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-7400 (3.0GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX Z270I GAMING: Mini-ITX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GB - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Hard Disk
1TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
128GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (560MB/R, 467MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN PORT + Wi-Fi (Wi-Fi excluded on H110I-PLUS)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Quantity
1

 

[boosted1g]

You cant build a medium end PC and call it "future proof"

Core i5 is almost not adequate today for gaming, with more and more titles being multi-threaded and can push an i7 to its max.

GTX 1050ti is bassically the minimum GPU for gaming at 1080p.

Corsair VS is not a good PSU, and getting a 350w really limits you for future, when spending another $20-25 to get a decent 550w will support much better GPUs for future upgrades.

Also, not sure where you are buying this pre-built PC from but 90% of the time you will get a nicer PC (at least in quality) for less money to buy the parts and pay someone local to build it.
Most of these Prebuilt systems come with the cheapest boards, fans, and PSUs you can find. In the long run these cheap components will fail and cost you even more money in the long run.

 

[bignastyid]

1. A future proof PC does not exist.
2. IF you want something that will will be viable for a few years you are going to need to spend alot more money.

The 1050 ti is ok right now but it's an entry level gaming card and as such it won't take long before it really starts to lag behind and struggel to run games games at anything above low settings.

The VS model is the worst PSU Corsair offers and are known for being unreliable

With a 7th gen cpu and a 200 series chipset they should be using ddr4 2400 not 2133.

A Ryzen 5 would be a better option as in the long run is has better prospect with the way AAA games are finally becoming more multi threaded.

 

[eddyb95]

You cant build a medium end PC and call it "future proof"

Core i5 is almost not adequate today for gaming, with more and more titles being multi-threaded and can push an i7 to its max.

GTX 1050ti is bassically the minimum GPU for gaming at 1080p.

Corsair VS is not a good PSU, and getting a 350w really limits you for future, when spending another $20-25 to get a decent 550w will support much better GPUs for future upgrades.

Also, not sure where you are buying this pre-built PC from but 90% of the time you will get a nicer PC (at least in quality) for less money to buy the parts and pay someone local to build it.
Most of these Prebuilt systems come with the cheapest boards, fans, and PSUs you can find. In the long run these cheap components will fail and cost you even more money in the long run.

Thanks for the advice and input. I wasn't suggesting that this build was future, I was asking for peoples opinions on the build. From what you have said I know that the build is not a very good one and i need to re-think it.

The website where I got this quote from is PCSpecialists.com. From what i understood they seemed to be a good company, however I might have been wrong.

What components do you think would be a good base for a "future proof" - keeping in mind that I will be able to add more components in the future.

Your advice on this would be very helpful. Thanks.

 

[aquielisunari]

You say that you can upgrade it later. You can also build it today and invest any money you were going to spend on someone else build it for you.

Budget?

 

[eddyb95]

1. A future proof PC does not exist.
2. IF you want something that will will be viable for a few years you are going to need to spend alot more money.

The 1050 ti is ok right now but it's an entry level gaming card and as such it won't take long before it really starts to lag behind and struggel to run games games at anything above low settings.

The VS model is the worst PSU Corsair offers and are known for being unreliable

With a 7th gen cpu and a 200 series chipset they should be using ddr4 2400 not 2133.

A Ryzen 5 would be a better option as in the long run is has better prospect with the way AAA games are finally becoming more multi threaded.

Hello, Thanks for the reply.

A few questions about what you have said:

At the risk of sounding like an idiot, what component is the Ryzen 5?

What components are the most important should require the most amount spent on them? I understand that Grahpic cards and CPU are very important along with RAM, is there any thing else that I need to address?


Thanks for your help.

 

[eddyb95]

You say that you can upgrade it later. You can also build it today and invest any money you were going to spend on someone else build it for you.

Budget?

The amount I was looking to spend was about £1,000 to £1,200, the attraction of getting it built for are:

1) I don't want to run the risk of breaking any of the parts during the build.
2) I don't have a great lump sum of money at the minute, however I do have a stable well paying job. My plan was get it on finance, I know that ultimately it would cost more but the lack of a big lump sum makes it an attractive idea at the minute.

 

[Rdslw]

as Guys before me said:

1. Future proof is $$$$$(amount of $ is not random).
Best choice for you is PC with solid UPGRADE PATH instead.
Make a plan for yourself that each year you buy something that will make this PC better.
I would go with Ryzen 1600 and 4-8 GB ram. Upgrade to 16, maybe 32 next years.
For now get best budget GPU, maybe AMD 580 if possible. Then Crossfire second when needed.
That 500+ bronze PSU will be something to go with.

 

[bignastyid]

The Ryzen 5 is part of AMDs CPU lineup. Their single threaded speed is a bit slower but they offer more threads and are currently better on the price to performance standpoint.

Are you opposed to building it yourself? This will usually net you better performance for the price.

 

[aquielisunari]

You say that you can upgrade it later. You can also build it today and invest any money you were going to spend on someone else build it for you.

Budget?

The amount I was looking to spend was about £1,000 to £1,200, the attraction of getting it built for are:

1) I don't want to run the risk of breaking any of the parts during the build.
2) I don't have a great lump sum of money at the minute, however I do have a stable well paying job. My plan was get it on finance, I know that ultimately it would cost more but the lack of a big lump sum makes it an attractive idea at the minute.

I'd look to Ryzen 1600
quality B350 motherboard
16GB RAM
GTX 1070. This is an EXPENSIVE part but will add your needed longevity.
An aftermarket AM4 CPU cooler.
A QUALITY PSU that is no less than 500W. This includes the Seasonic 520W Bronze. The Corsair CX line of PSUs are another good choice.

 

[eddyb95]

The Ryzen 5 is part of AMDs CPU lineup. Their single threaded speed is a bit slower but they offer more threads and are currently better on the price to performance standpoint.

Are you opposed to building it yourself? This will usually net you better performance for the price.

I have built a computer before but due to the amount of money I will be sinking into this build I was a bit reluctant to build it as I did not want to break anything.

This might be a stupid question but is there a price difference between AMD and Nvidia. I have always gone with Nvidia in the past and I don't know a lot about AMD.

 

[Rdslw]

You say that you can upgrade it later. You can also build it today and invest any money you were going to spend on someone else build it for you.

Budget?

The amount I was looking to spend was about £1,000 to £1,200, the attraction of getting it built for are:

1) I don't want to run the risk of breaking any of the parts during the build.
2) I don't have a great lump sum of money at the minute, however I do have a stable well paying job. My plan was get it on finance, I know that ultimately it would cost more but the lack of a big lump sum makes it an attractive idea at the minute.

for 1000 you can get quite solid PC mate check your vendors around my don't mind self made builds, they just want 20 extra for "assembly"

look at this:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/rFZRsY
all pieces are better than you had

 

[captaincharisma]

for gaming IMO you should upgrade to an I7 7700K and at leats a 1070 GPU

you can look into ryzen but you would end up having to get a new mobo too

 

[bignastyid]

For 1000 you could easily do better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£216.59 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£44.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£77.24 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£142.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£82.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card (£239.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.38 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.57 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.70 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1019.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-28 22:09 BST+0100

1200 gets you a 1070(or Vega 56 if you can find one) and a bigger PSU
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£216.59 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£44.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£77.24 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£142.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£82.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB iChill X3 Video Card (£398.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.38 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£68.67 @ Alza)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.70 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1199.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-28 22:11 BST+0100

 

[eddyb95]

So after looking at all your advice and taking into account price and such I think I have come up with a goodish build to start on.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£187.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£60.64 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: *Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£71.80 @ Alza)
Storage: *Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card (£279.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.68 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.46 @ PC World Business)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.70 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (£26.98 @ PC World Business)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.88 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £859.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-28 22:48 BST+0100

If anyone can think of better parts for roughly the same price please let me know.

Any advice on this build would be great, Thanks guys.

 

[aquielisunari]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£187.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: *ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£60.64 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: *Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£71.80 @ Alza)
Storage: *Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card (£282.20 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.68 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.46 @ PC World Business)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.70 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (£26.98 @ PC World Business)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.88 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £861.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-28 23:06 BST+0100

THe only change I made was to move the 580 out of there. The 1060 and 580 8GB go toe to toe on many games but you chose the lesser 4GB 580. The 1060 6GB is a better choice imo.