First build ever! Please help!

dabrony

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Will this build work?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/63yBsJ

This is my first ever build and a little overwhelmed by all the options. Will I have any compatibility issues re: the motherboard as pc partspicker is describing? (Some Intel Z170 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaby Lake-S CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions)

Thank you all in advance!
 

furkan68k18

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That's ok you can just ask the seller to update the mobo to the latest bios before they send it to you.

If you will not upgrade the ram soon to 32gb/64gb I would recommend getting 2x8gb rather than 1x16gb because with two sticks the ram would be running in dual channel which is faster.
 


Change the MB to a Z270 Chipset and you need a 2x 8GB kit for the ram. Also changed the CPU cooler to a better one.

Did it for you here:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($374.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($268.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($207.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.25 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($604.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($86.36 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: *Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1900.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 12:11 EST-0500
 
These are very potent systems, I'll guess you're looking to run a 2K 144Hz display or dual HD monitors?

In the meantime here's a Coffee Lake i5 build you might want to consider:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($334.99 @ Memory Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($268.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($207.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.25 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card ($674.99 @ PC Canada)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($86.36 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: *Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1945.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 12:53 EST-0500

Just swapped out the i7, Z270 MB and GTX1070Ti from Jankersons excellent build to a i5 8600K, Z370 MB and GTX1080.

If you're going to be gaming at 2K or 4K the i5 will be a little quicker overall, because I've used the faster GTX1080, if you're going to be doing a lot of video encoding the build by Jankerson would be more appropriate.
 

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Get the 6 true core i5 8600K, 2x8gb set of memory and never hurts to up the pSU some for future upgrades. Drop the slow 5400 RPM hard drive you can add anouther when/if needed.
Under 1900.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($334.99 @ Memory Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($268.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($207.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($604.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($86.36 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1874.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 13:44 EST-0500
 

dabrony

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Thank you all for the extremely helpful input! I am very curious about the option of a GTX 1080 as coozie brings up. Makes me wonder if I should go with a 650W power supply If I am going to conservatively overclock of this rig or if the Corsair previously selected will be enough.

Thanks in advance,




 
If you go for a overclock AND the GTX 1080 I'd definitely opt for the 650Watt power supply.

As things stand the builds linked are actually similar in overall performance, the i5 8600K/GTX1080 will be a little faster in games while a i7 7700K/GTX1070Ti would be a little better as an all round system-if you regularly do things like video encode or render it'll be quicker there.

Here's a rebalanced i7 7700K build with faster memory, a GTX 1080 and the 650Watt PSU, to save a little cash, though I've dropped to a cheaper 256Gb SSD and a less expensive motherboard:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($374.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($138.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($287.44 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($105.75 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card ($694.46 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($86.36 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1908.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 05:12 EST-0500

Again, open to discussion or tweaking.
Also, Dabrony, can you tell us what the system is going to be used for? If gaming what display/s will you use or what do you intend to use? It's important to balance the whole system, pairing any of the above builds with a 60Hz HD display will be a waste of money for example but if you regularly do a lot of rendering that is CPU intensive you'll be better off with a 8 core Ryzen build, maybe sacrificing a little gaming performance to gain some rendering muscle.
 

dabrony

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I would be using this rig mostly for gaming on a 1440p 144 Hz monitor (possibly upgrading to 4K within the next couple years) and will not need to render video but would likely be using photoshop often. Most games I play are pretty graphic intensive (battlefield 1, 4, witcher, destiny 2 etc). One of my priorities is definitely longevity as I would not want to upgrade components for at least a few years after building.

Thank you again for all the help.



 
The i7 7700K build above is probably the best match for your needs, gaming wise it's a beast and the i7 will be a little quicker in other applications than a i5 8600K, although the differences will be quite small.
 
@ Dabrony:
IF you will overclock a little more than conservatively AND you want to squeeze the maximum performance out of the system an i5 8600K is a bit better, and with 6 full cores has a better long term future but you'll need to push it a little more than the i7 7700K.

IF you want to only overclock moderately AND are less concerned about every frame per second or second in render times AND just want a easier time the i7 7700K will be a little slower but easier to live with.
Either way the differences will be fairly small and either system will be very powerful.

Me, I'm getting old and lazy and would go for the i7 with a moderate overclock, even though it's now 'old' tech. You may think differently and choose the i5 8600K and go for a high overclock, this is a choice only you can make but either way you're going to have one beast of a setup to enjoy.
 

dabrony

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Hello again. I finally pulled the trigger and ordered the parts. Ended up going for the following rig:

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rLBgD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rLBgD8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($332.99 @ PC Canada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z370 Plus Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($244.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($167.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($604.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($105.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $1837.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-26 13:43 EST-0500

Ended up going for the true 6 core coffee lake processor since Amazon Canada had a decent deal on it. Decided that the GTX 1070 Ti would be all I need for now as It will probably be a while until I upgrade to 4K (Any monitors with better than 60 Hz are just not justifiable cost-wise for me.

Please let me know if this setup poses any concerns for you experienced builders.

Thanks again!
 
Apart from the small issue raised by Zerk2012, all is good, that PSU is a sweet one, but we're talking small differences here, change to the SeaSonic if you can, if not, don't worry.
And you've put together a REALLY fine system, 2K gaming, no problem, it'll even handle a high refresh 2K display without many issues so it's got a long, long life ahead of it.
Go ahead and enjoy, mate.
 

dabrony

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I've followed your advice and ordered the seasonic power supply instead. Apart from being fully modular what are the other differences between it and the EVGA I had previously picked?
 
It's just a little better quality, pretty well the whole community would suggest getting the best quality unit budget allows; They're safer, longer lasting more stable and, in your case, better able to withstand higher loads than cheaper parts, something you may appreciate when/if you decide to overclock.
 

dabrony

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I have successfully built the system with very few hiccups. This PC is a beast! Thank you all for your recommendations and for helping make it happen!
 

dabrony

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I just have another quick question about temperatures. I have researched the topic but the information out there seems to be inconsistent. I am running my chip at 4.6 GHz and getting idle temperatures of 29/30 C consistently (22C ambient). When I test the CPU temperatures on Cinebench it shoots up as high as 91 degrees (for a period of 10 seconds or such, with an average of 84C)

When gaming I am getting temperatures between 34-50C.

The temperatures at idle and gaming seem pretty acceptable to me but the 100% load definitely concerns me a bit. Is it ok to be reaching that high for short periods of time?

Thanks again for all your guidance so far.
 

furkan68k18

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Yeah like you said gaming temps are fine. As for load temps I would try another test like Aida 64 to make sure that this is not a misreading.