Old PC Upgrade For Gaming...

[kountjoma]

Hello..... I am new here and I wanted to ask if upgrading These PC Specs :

- Intel Core 2 CPU 6400 2.3GHZ
- Gibabyte ATX Motherboard GA-8IE800
- A Radeon X300 /X550/X1050 series 512mb Graphics Card
- 2 GB DDR2 RAM
- A ( I don't Even Know It's Name ) 200W Power Supply ( Not Certified )
- And A Philips 170S

To These Specs For Gaming ( Games Like LoL or Overwatch ) :

- Intel Core i5-8600K ( With Noctua NH-D9L )
- Asrock Z370 Extreme4
- Gigabyte Radeon Gaming RX 560 4GB ( Rev. 1.0 )
- Crucial Ballistix Sport LT White 16GB DDR4-2666MHz (BLS2C8G4D26BFSC)
- Corsair RMx Series RM850x
- AOC G2260VWQ6

Is Worth Or If there Is A Cheaper And Better Combination..... Thanks For Your Time... And Sorry For My Bad English....

 

[vapour]

PSU is overkill, gpu is only entery level, what is your total budget and living in which country?

 

[kountjoma]

PSU is overkill, gpu is only entery level, what is your total budget and living in which country?

Well I Live In Greece and My Budget Is Around 800-900 Euros.

 

[zyh1987]

Rm650x will be good, if you wish to upgrade to a more power gpu.

Are you planning to overclock? If not, there is very little difference between i5 8400 and i5 8600k, and you can pick a B360 board (B360 pro 4) instead of the as z370 ex4. And use the Saving to buy a 1060 6gb

 

[kountjoma]

Rm650x will be good, if you wish to upgrade to a more power gpu.

Are you planning to overclock? If not, there is very little difference between i5 8400 and i5 8600k, and you can pick a B360 board (B360 pro 4) instead of the as z370 ex4. And use the Saving to buy a 1060 6gb

Yeah I am Planning to try overclocking the 8600K to 5.0ghz with this motherboard because people say that it works and it's good..... The 1060 6gb is 150 Euros More Than the rx560 (in here at least).I picked the rx560 not only because It's cheaper but also because the monitor that I'll get supports freesync technology..... Thanks for answering ..... And you're right I should get the rm650x.

 

[vapour]

Ryzen 1600 - 165e : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/11139197/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-Box.html
B350 Pro4 - 89e : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/11552849/Asrock-AB350-Pro4.html
3200 DDR4 8 gb - 106e : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/7407415/G-Skill-RipjawsV-8GB-DDR4-3200MHz-F4-3200C16D-8GVK.html
1050 ti - 190e: https://www.skroutz.gr/s/10297571/Palit-GeForce-GTX1050-Ti-4GB-StormX-NE5105T018G1F.html
seasonic 550 Focus - 80e: https://www.skroutz.gr/s/12518015/Seasonic-Focus-Plus-550-Gold.html
1080p 144Hz monitor - 240e - https://www.skroutz.gr/s/8021121/AOC-G2460PF.html

Performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUGOLD-_Wa4

 

[zyh1987]

The thing is even you maxed out like 5.3 ghz in cpu, at most you get is 40% power compare to 8400, at most your cpu will be 40% faster which it’s not. Your gpu in another hand, 1060 or rx580 is 130 % faster on paper.

 

[kountjoma]

Ryzen 1600 - 165e : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/11139197/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-Box.html
B350 Pro4 - 89e : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/11552849/Asrock-AB350-Pro4.html
3200 DDR4 8 gb - 106e : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/7407415/G-Skill-RipjawsV-8GB-DDR4-3200MHz-F4-3200C16D-8GVK.html
1050 ti - 190e: https://www.skroutz.gr/s/10297571/Palit-GeForce-GTX1050-Ti-4GB-StormX-NE5105T018G1F.html
seasonic 550 Focus - 80e: https://www.skroutz.gr/s/12518015/Seasonic-Focus-Plus-550-Gold.html
1080p 144Hz monitor - 240e - https://www.skroutz.gr/s/8021121/AOC-G2460PF.html

Performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUGOLD-_Wa4

Well THANK YOU <3....! This is a better suggestion... if you consider the 144hz monitor and the more powerful 1050ti GPU ( He Is Actually Using The Gigabytes Card : https://www.skroutz.gr/s/10262687/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX1050-Ti-4GB-G1-Gaming-GV-N105TG1-GAMING-4GD.html ) But I Think That I should Stick Up With The Asrock Z370 Extreme4 And The Intel Core I5 8400, rather than the Ryzen 5 1600 And The B350 ) Thanks For Even Taking The Time To respond though... <3

 

[kountjoma]

The thing is even you maxed out like 5.3 ghz in cpu, at most you get is 40% power compare to 8400, at most your cpu will be 40% faster which it’s not. Your gpu in another hand, 1060 or rx580 is 130 % faster on paper.

Yeah, I know that the gtx1060 is A LOT BETTER and WAY FASTER and MORE LIKE POWERFUL and the i5 8400 and i5 8600K will do no big difference in what I wanna do with my PC ( I'll see what I'll do with that ) .... <3 But The thing is that I can't afford the 1060 and If I could I would probably get a RX 570 or 580 that are in the same price ( I Love freesync <3 ). So Yeah Thanks For Your Time Men <3 :* .....

 

[coozie7]

An Intel i5 CPU is a better choice if you want to game at 144Hz with a HD resolution display.
You do understand a GTX1050Ti is not powerful enough to run a 144Hz display at anything like full speed, don't you?
My suggestions:

https://www.skroutz.gr/c/32/cpu-epeksergastes.html?from=catspan&keyphrase=i5+8400
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/14477247/Gigabyte-Z370M-DS3H-rev-1-0.html
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/11130151/Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-LT-White-8GB-DDR4-2666MHz-BLS2C4G4D26BFSC.html
http://www.digital-master.gr/el-gr/Products.aspx?utm_source=xml&utm_medium=a&utm_campaign=b&ElementID=73276ca7-8e83-44e0-89f0-b740ffeab682
https://www.emark.gr/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=70894
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/12518015/Seasonic-Focus-Plus-550-Gold.html

 

[kountjoma]

An Intel i5 CPU is a better choice if you want to game at 144Hz with a HD resolution display.
You do understand a GTX1050Ti is not powerful enough to run a 144Hz display at anything like full speed, don't you?
My suggestions:

https://www.skroutz.gr/c/32/cpu-epeksergastes.html?from=catspan&keyphrase=i5+8400
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/14477247/Gigabyte-Z370M-DS3H-rev-1-0.html
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/11130151/Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-LT-White-8GB-DDR4-2666MHz-BLS2C4G4D26BFSC.html
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/9708672/Asus-GeForce-GTX1060-3GB-Dual-OC-90YV09X3-M0NA00.html
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/12518015/Seasonic-Focus-Plus-550-Gold.html
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/14010078/Iiyama-ProLite-X2474HS-B1.html

Well I'm not Familiar with building new Computers etc. So I don't know that much about what supports what.... I forgot to mention that I want a 21'5 inch monitor so I think that I'll stick up with the first one ( sorry )..... And The Build that you recommend has just a better GPU that the one that I firstly said..... I also said that I do not want to go for a GTX GPU Because I want the freesync technology.... So instead of the GTX 1060 I would go for the RX 580 or 570 but they are just more expensive and I don't want to waste that much money for a GPU..... <3 ... Thanks for your time....

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Also if you go for an i5 8400, since you won't be able to overclock anyway, you might look at some of the b360 or h370 boards to shave some money off the build, which would leave more for a better graphics card.

 

[zyh1987]

The thing is even you maxed out like 5.3 ghz in cpu, at most you get is 40% power compare to 8400, at most your cpu will be 40% faster which it’s not. Your gpu in another hand, 1060 or rx580 is 130 % faster on paper.

Yeah, I know that the gtx1060 is A LOT BETTER and WAY FASTER and MORE LIKE POWERFUL and the i5 8400 and i5 8600K will do no big difference in what I wanna do with my PC ( I'll see what I'll do with that ) .... <3 But The thing is that I can't afford the 1060 and If I could I would probably get a RX 570 or 580 that are in the same price ( I Love freesync <3 ). So Yeah Thanks For Your Time Men <3 :* .....

where i'm right now, 8400+cheap z370/h370/b350 and rx580 4GB is (230+140+420 roughly 800CAD or 520 eruo),
8600k + ex4 + nh-d9l + rx560 4gb is (300+230+70+210, roughly 810 CAD or 525 eruo), it's the same price.

 

[coozie7]

@ zyh1987: Yep, but the prices are different in Greece, the i5 8600K is <>60 Euro more expensive than a i5 8400 and a decent Z370 MB significantly more than the cheap one I linked (it's as cheap as the currently available 'H' boards in Greece but has better connectivity ).

@ kountjoma: You are trying for the impossible here.
If we provide a i5 8600K+a good quality Z370 motherboard so you can overclock safely, we have to cut the cost of the graphics card to stay within budget.
That means your system will be slow, no matter what overclock you apply to the CPU, a graphics card like the RX560 just isn't fast enough to run modern games quickly and will be a restriction (bottleneck ) when gaming.

In the meantime here's about the fastest system I can come up with that stays around 900 Euro.

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/12979207/Intel-Core-i5-8600K-Box.html
https://mustbuy.gr/computer-and-office/components/motherboards-mhtrikes/mb-intel-1151-asrock-z370-killer-sli-90-mxb630-a0uayz/?sl=el
https://mustbuy.gr/computer-and-office/components/mnhmes-pc-ram/ballistix-sport-lt-8gb-kit-ddr4-4gbx2-2666-dimm-288pin-white/?sl=el
http://www.digital-master.gr/el-gr/Products.aspx?utm_source=xml&utm_medium=a&utm_campaign=b&ElementID=73276ca7-8e83-44e0-89f0-b740ffeab682
https://www.emark.gr/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=70894
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/12518015/Seasonic-Focus-Plus-550-Gold.html

According to my maths the above comes in at 915 Euro, you can drop it to below 900 Euro by using my original i5 8400/cheap Z370 motherboard and, apart from the overclocking you will not be able to see the difference in games.