£1000 gaming pc build - help!

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Hello,

Sort of new to PC gaming and my knowledge for pcs is very limited.

I'm hoping to build a gaming pc for around £1000.

I have my eyes set on the Bitfenix Colossus venom (£140)

Also thinking of getting an intel core i7 3770k...

Any suggestions for good components and/or a build would be highly appreciate.

Thanks

Luke
 
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Thank you for your offer, but as I clearly stated above, I want the bitfenix colossus venom. I would also like to build it and select components individually
 

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Looks like im gonna have to get off my butt and find some good components. Sigh* the things i do to help out rich people.

Alright so here goes. Most important part of the computer (which you already have figured out)

The i7 3770K - An improvement over the previous versions (My reaction: How in *** did they invent something faster than the old i7's.. they were beasts)... "Technology"- This bad boy packs a mean 3.50GHz clock speed coupled with a brute 8MB of cache (Games need cache). 4 cores. and 8 threads. which is kind of overkill really. Now i know you want the best for your gaming needs but i wouldn't buy this bad boy if i wasn't gonna be doing some intense video rendering and stuff like that but any ways

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-403-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=567

There's that for the CPU. Only costing a mere £260 (sarcasm implied of course)

Now for something to rest that bad boy in.. The asus Z77 Maximus 5.. Cool quite and effing effecient. Puts that i7 of yours to good use. Now call me a cheapskate but i think this is more than enough for your needs cause we'll be pairing this up with a good GPU as well. The integrated chipset on this mobo combined with your i7's Ivy bridge technology takes the integrated HD4000's clock upto 1200MHz (A lot) the layout of the motherboard ensures that there's enough heat being conducted and its got fan expert 2 which increases the fan speeds of the stuff its connected with to provide good cooling.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-516-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

Onto teh memory!!

You know what the best part about your CPU is? That it supports the fastest kind of memory out there.. but we're gonna stick with 2133Mhz of dual/quad channel kit DDR3 right now. THE KINGSTON HyperX Genesis! 16GB's of roadrunner ram goodness.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-119-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=

Now onto the most important bit of any gaming pc. The graphics card.. now i dont know which one you'd prefer more. A radeon or a nvidia.. but lately nvidia's PhysX has won me over (Just look at borderlands 2) and games further down the road are probably gonna be utilizing PhysX so i give you... THE GTX660Ti with 1344 Steam Processors.. This bad boy is gonna be more than enough for your gaming needs and you'll be able to crank up that eye candy without any drops in Fps's ;)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-186-MS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2379

Heres something to store all your data in. (Pictures movies all that kind of bullshit not games and OS)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-024-TS

and heres the bit where you'll be storing all your games and your OS

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-008-CR&groupid=1657&catid=2101&subcat=


Now this is probably the best part. This beauty is reason enough for you to spend a grand on this computer. Yes i know what you're thinking. THE CASING but im not sure what colour of the venom you're looking at so here.. make a choice

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=2362&catid=1850

Heres something to power up the system with 80+ Bronze certified mind you

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-037-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1084

All that rounds up to 1100 Something. Its gonna have to be the price you pay since you want the best processor around. and the best processor needs to have something good to go along with it. if i was you i'd just buy me an ivy bridge i5 and put the money towards a gtx 670. I tried my best brah but i went over the Price limit and overclockers is the cheapest place to get high end stuff compared to other websites. Now if only i can buy myself a pentium 4 oh wait. i cant afford it -.-
 
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Thanks a lot! Ill look at this in more detail tonight, I want the green led case to match my razer gear >.<
 

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http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y2Og

or save yourself a heckuva lot more building one yourself.

you gain very little going with an i7 if all you're doing is gaming, when games do start fully utilizing 6 cores, you're better off with an upgrade by then.

ram speed and size has very little impact in gaming as well. 8gb, 1600mhz is the current sweet spot.

and that pre-built has a horrible combination of CPU and motherboard. the only time you get a Z77 is when you pair it with a K processor for you to OC. otherwise, a cheaper H77/B75 will perform the same in gaming.

spend a bit more and you can fit in a 128gb SSD in there.

as for a wireless card, sure if using a cable is too much hassle for you for whatever reason. a usb dongle is an acceptable option. if you're an audiophile with a 5.1/7.1 sound system, sure, a sound card will do, but for gaming, i'd prioritize performance first. onboard sound is more than enough. whether you need better fans, it's best you give it a run through first and see if noise and temps are to your liking.

EDIT: doesn't look like you're into OCing, and some parts from another build got included. changed the list of parts
 

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Here you go, a good build for you.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3gH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3gH/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3gH/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£178.21 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.74 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£78.96 @ Dabs)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (£318.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Colossus ATX Full Tower Case (£95.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£72.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£17.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1041.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-17 11:53 GMT+0000)
 
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I've heard that GTX are better than the Radeon?

I want to play games like Farcry 3, WoW, Blops and other games...
 

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I've heard differently, mostly it's just fan boys on either side. A 7970 is about equivalent to a GTX680, so if you don't like radeon just change it for one of them. To be honest there'll be little difference.

This may help your decision:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
 

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some games just play better with an Nvidia card over AMD, and vice versa. just take a look around at some benchmarks on the games you really want to play to determine what card it favors.

AMD has been on the receiving end of some flack recently due to the consistency of their frame rate; despite the slightly higher fps advantage over Nvidia in some games with their 12.11 drivers, it suffered horribly with keeping those fps consistent;

http://techreport.com/review/24051/geforce-versus-radeon-captured-on-high-speed-video

to their credit, they did listen and managed to release a more recent driver that lessened, if not fixed the problem;

http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times

Nvidia's 600 series has it's fair share of cons as well; limited memory bandwidth results in a larger drop in fps compared to AMD as you increase graphics settings and/or with several high res graphics mods installed.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-memory-bandwidth-anti-aliasing,3283-11.html

they've also abandoned compute performance, choosing to focus on gaming performance instead. so if you're into bitmining, it's either AMD, or previous gen Nvidia.
 

mikerockett

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Here's two specs, one with radeon GPU, one with Nvidea, that way you can get which ever you prefer.

Radeon

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3gH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3gH/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3gH/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£178.21 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.74 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£78.96 @ Dabs)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (£318.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Colossus ATX Full Tower Case (£95.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£72.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£17.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1041.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-17 11:53 GMT+0000)

Nvidea

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3sM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3sM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y3sM/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£178.21 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.74 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£78.96 @ Dabs)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (£359.62 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Colossus ATX Full Tower Case (£95.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£72.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£17.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1081.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-17 13:01 GMT+0000)
 

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seeing as how you've went over your initial budget, give this a try;

http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/y8NZ

you can seriously save up a whole lot going with an i5 instead. it'll be a long while till an i7 is even a relevant choice in gaming, and when it does, i'd reckon you're long overdue for an upgrade by then. proof below (note: for reviews without a 3570k to compare with, compare the 2500K or it's equivalent with the 2600K/2700K):

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-20.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-21.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-22.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/523-ivy-bridge-intel-core-i7-3770k/page7.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/04/23/intel-core-i7-3770k-review/7

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_ivy_bridge_core_i5_3570k_core_i7_3770k_review,12.html

a 1-5fps gain in a very few games, isn't really worth £60+. £5-10, maybe, but not £60. the same goes for your motherboard. since you're not overclocking, there's little to no gain in gaming performance whatsoever going between a £179 Z77 motherboard and an £82 H77 board. and you can also skip the cooler if you're not OCing.

the 680 only performs 3-5% more over the 670, for £50+ more. that's way too little a gain for way too much money.

go with an i5+GTX670 PC and you'd still have a pc gaming monster, that performs VERY,VERY close, if not equally with an i7 + GTX680. if you got money to spend after buying a sound card and wireless network card, spend it on games. trust us. a lot before you had gone through with it and are satisfied.
 

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What input does your headset take, chances are the mobo can accomodate it.

As mentioned by myself and hazle, you really don't need an i7 for gaming, it will just be wasted.

At the end of the day it's your build and your money so you are welcome to buy what you want, but i can't recommend you do that as the money is pretty much just being spent on bragging rights, no real performance gain.
 

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Not really.

1. You've still got an i7, it's not necessary.
2. The i7 you've chosen isn't unlocked so you dont need the after market cooler.
3. You could prob pick up a cheaper mobo.

If i'm honest it doesn't seem like you want help/advice, it seems more like you just want to be told your build is right. We've given you builds that are perfect for your needs but you keep coming back with builds with un necessary parts.
 
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Firstly, I want i7 for future proofing, and i don't want to take someone's build that they have given. I want advice and what are good for the money, and then make my OWN build with the knowledge i have been given.
 

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That's a fair point to make, not trying to offend you, just trying to get to the bottom of this.

I wouldn't really consider getting an i7 future proofing. It would be a better investment saving the money getting the i5 and upgrading a few years down the line with the generation of processors that's current at that time.

As i already mentioned though, this is your build, your money, if it's what you like then go for it.
 
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But very hesitant to buy something of this price and doing something wrong. I obviously want good value for money, and I would like an i7...

Just not sure on brands, especially MOBO