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Kids Gaming PC (Budget £250/$400)

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November 19, 2012 5:02:57 PM

Hey Guys,

I'm looking at building a PC for my kids who currently have a Revo which was originally fine but now they're older they're both getting frustrated with how slow it is.

I've decided to build a new PC with a budget of £250. The only games they play is World of Warcraft and some flash games on the internet like Club Penguin. Searching around the builtin CPU/Graphics options from AMD sounded interesting. I found a build on a website but needed HDMI out so had to modify it slightly.

Could someone please check if the parts are okay or recommend any alternatives? I'm also concerned about the 400W power if it'll be enough.

My list is here:
http://www.ebuyer.com/lists/list/97377

The parts are:
AMD 3870K 3GHz Socket FM1 4MB
Asrock A75M-HVS
G-Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz
Inwin EM020 Shiny Black MATX w/ 400W PSU
Seagate 500GB 3.5" SATA-III
Samsung SH-222BB 22x DVD±RW

The total is £242 which is under my budget but I'd be willing to go up to £300 if a different system would have major performance or future upgrade potential over the system above.

Thanks for any comments.
John.
November 19, 2012 5:13:48 PM

i highly doubt those specs can run WoW above Low settings, but i might be wrong
November 19, 2012 6:21:08 PM

From reading some other build recommendations on here I'm getting the impression the APU I'm using is last Gens model?

If thats the case should I swap the APU and Motherboard to these?
AMD A8 5600K Black Edition 3.6GHz
Gigabyte GA-F2A75M-D3H A75 Socket FM2 (Extra £30)

Not much price difference in the APU but the motherboard with HDMI out is only one I can find and it's 30 quid extra. Anyone got any advice if the difference between the llano and trinity is much?

I've tried looking at benchmarks but they either do CPU or GPU and not both at same time.
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November 19, 2012 6:30:11 PM

for WoW i would go for a Core i3 and a gtx 650 on that budget
November 19, 2012 6:30:43 PM

Nevermind, found a link that does comparision here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-...

Based on those results I'm guessing I should spend the extra money on the motherboard which also gives me potential to upgrade the APU in future. I've read that the FM1 socket is no longer supported.

Would all my existing components on my original list be compatible with the trinity APU and motherboard? If someone could let me know that'd be great. I can start ordering and building then in time for christmas :) 
November 19, 2012 9:58:31 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 450 3.2GHz Triple-Core Processor (£48.74 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£51.61 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£19.39 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.50 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card (£89.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Inwin MANA136 WHITE ATX Mid Tower Case w/300W Power Supply (£45.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £300.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-19 23:58 GMT+0000)
November 19, 2012 10:39:39 PM

Thanks for the input downtown, I prefer the case and HDD you picked. Still not sure about going seperate with the CPU and GFX or if I should stick the to integrated kind.

I came up with the following based on yours but with the APU instead, I also need the optical drive for installing the OS and games etc.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£92.09 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£37.60 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£30.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.50 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Inwin MANA136 WHITE ATX Mid Tower Case w/300W Power Supply (£45.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £263.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-20 00:39 GMT+0000)
November 19, 2012 11:41:06 PM

yea my point of a separate gpu , because 1 or 2 years later your kids will want to play something like need for speed or GTA or these kind of games , so i chose a cpu that cun these games well with a new gpu from nvidia that will suit all your needs at very good price.
still like your build , but the cpu is overkill for your needs you can pick a cheaper one.
good luck :) 
November 20, 2012 4:50:19 AM

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: EVGA 120-SB-E672-KR Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Logisys 575W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $407.66

Should perform much better than previous builds posted. It can be easily upgraded in the future by Crossfiring the Radeon HD 6850.
November 20, 2012 6:59:38 AM

Pingypoker said:
CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: EVGA 120-SB-E672-KR Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Logisys 575W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $407.66

Should perform much better than previous builds posted. It can be easily upgraded in the future by Crossfiring the Radeon HD 6850.

try this with UK stores and prices.
November 20, 2012 7:17:56 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor (£49.07 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: EVGA 120-SB-E672-KR Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£99.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£18.14 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.74 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Sony DDU1681S-0B DVD/CD Drive (£13.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £233.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-20 09:03 GMT+0000)

this is your exact same build but in uk with uk prices which will be over budget as you see.

didn't find the gpu in pcpartpicker so i searched for its price in uk which costs £100
which the build will cost £333.89
gpu link : http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pli/37-2657445/Graphics-Ca...

didn't find the case or the psu anywhere in uk but they will minimum cost will be like £45 or £50 which will make the entire build over budget by £128.
November 20, 2012 7:08:09 PM

Made few alterations, think I'm nearly there. Unfortunately the case you linked downtown when you click through to the merchants it doesn't include a PSU even though one is advertised.

My current parts list is:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£92.09 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£37.60 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£38.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£55.00 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £234.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-20 21:00 GMT+0000)

For the case I was looking at this from ebuyer:
Coolermaster Elite 430 All Black Case With Elite 500W PSU but its £57 which is a bit on the pricey side.
November 20, 2012 8:33:22 PM

ok this is my final try cuz i got tired from getting a nice build under £300

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£92.09 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£37.60 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£29.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£70.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£35.99 @ Novatech)
Total: £296.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-20 22:32 GMT+0000)

don't get the vertex 2 !
November 23, 2012 10:17:22 PM

This can be closed and downtown given the answer as he was best answer to my question. Thank you.
November 23, 2012 10:40:04 PM

glad to help , you didn't gave me the best answer you must click on it :D 
anyway glad to help ..
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