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CAD build, £1000 - advice appreciated

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September 22, 2012 9:57:13 AM

Hi, I've been asked to look at putting together a CAD build for a friend. Outline requirements and parts below.

Your input would be very much appreciated!!

Thoughts on the following would be great:
- Potential improvements within the scope of the budget

- Options to reduce system noise (case, fans?)

- Options for screen

- Potential off the wall ideas - would buying a second hand server / workstation with 2x Xeon processors make more sense?


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Approximate Purchase Date: 2-3 weeks

Budget Range: c£1000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: CAD (solidworks, 3DSMax)

Are you buying a monitor: TBC

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Ebuyer, Dabs, Overclockers UK

Location: UK

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: This is for a professional modeller, sole use is CAD.

Why Are You Upgrading: Old machine is too old and slow.


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Parts:

Processor: Intel, i7-3770k - £255
http://www.ebuyer.com/349026-intel-core-i7-3770k-3-5ghz...

RAM: 16GB (2x8Gb), DDR3 1333MHz, Corsair - £55
http://www.ebuyer.com/370069-corsair-16gb-ddr3-1333mhz-...

MB: Gigabyte Z77-D3H - £80
http://www.ebuyer.com/351598-gigabyte-ga-z77-d3h-socket...

GPU: NVidia Quadro 2000 - £440 (Dabs £380)
http://www.dabs.com/products/pny-quadro-2000-1gb-gddr5-...

PSU: Corsair CX 500W - £45
http://www.ebuyer.com/278634-corsair-500w-cx-v2-psu-cmp...

Case: Antec One - £45 (For example)
http://www.ebuyer.com/341400-one-middle-tower-case-blac...

Hard Disk 1: Samsung F3 1Tb - £57
http://www.ebuyer.com/173804-samsung-1tb-spinpoint-f3-i...

REPLACED with SSD: Seagate Barracuda 500Gb

SSD: Samsung 830 128Gb, £80
http://www.ebuyer.com/318420-samsung-128gb-830-series-s...

Optical drive: £15


Total: £632 (base) + £380 (GPU) = £1012

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September 22, 2012 11:13:45 AM

I'm not sure how important the GPU is in a build like this, I would certainly look into that before spending all that cash on it.

Other than that, I'd switch the RAM to 1600Mhz stuff since IB runs at that speed anyway.

The Samsung F3 is fast but noisy, I'd be tempted to go for a SSD/External HDD combo. That would eliminate almost all the vibration/HDD noise.

Other than that, it looks good in terms of performance, could be a lot quieter though.
September 22, 2012 11:45:27 AM

I have the Samsung F3 and I'm very happy with it.
The Quadro 2000 is fine but I would suggest checking out the AMD Firepro V5900, which costs around the same as Quadro 2000 and seems to keep up with the more expensive Quadro 4000 at AutoCAD 2013 (Bench link: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-w8000-w9000...)
Also consider getting an SSD and maybe a case that has some noise dampening qualities such as the Fractal Design Define R3 / R4
September 22, 2012 11:45:40 AM

How about this from aria.co.uk and dabs.com:

aria.co.uk
Antec One Black Midi Tower Gaming Case #50303
GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3V Intel B75 Socket 1155 DDR3 PCI-Express Motherboard #51972
430W be quiet! PURE POWER L7 80PLUS Power Supply #49505
Intel Core i7-3770 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail
total £367.78

dabs.com
Samsung 256GB 830 Series SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" SSD Basic Kit £149.97
Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) Ballistix Sport DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.5v 240pin (times 2 for 16GB) £53.97
PNY Quadro 2000 1GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 x16 DVI-I £379.99
Western Digital 1TB Green SATA-600 3.5" Desktop Hard Drive £53.85
total £638.77

Total price with VAT and P&P: £1006.55

[EDIT]

From this review I think for you a quadro is a better idea than a fire pro:
http://www.cgchannel.com/2011/10/review-professional-gp...

As it wins out ,if only barely, on 3ds and has CUDA which will let you do a few more things on the GPU.
September 22, 2012 12:28:12 PM

@metal orient,

The benchmarks link you provided is irrelevant, as there are no CAD applications there and OP specifically mentioned that this is supposed to be a CAD workstation.
September 22, 2012 1:00:12 PM

had 3ds max ,which is, but yes it is not totally relevent. No harm having more benchmarks though.
September 22, 2012 1:04:44 PM

All, thanks for your input much appreciated.

The guy I'm building for works professionally in CAD and has already decided that the Quadro is the right card for his applications.

@Doron - Thanks for the input, Fractal design cases look stunning but are an extra £30 or so. Is anyone else doing cheaper quiet cases?
(I have an Antec P182 and it's amazingly quiet, not sure whether the builder will want to splash out on it though...)

@Metal Orient - thanks for the heads up on better prices.

@JMSellars - wonder if I could save a bit on the GPU (though dabs) and then put the difference towards replacing that 500Gb HDD with a small SSD. Will look into it.


Edit: Have updated above post to include Samsung 830 128Gb and reflect better price of Quadro 2000.


Thanks again and further thoughts appreciated!!
September 22, 2012 1:35:15 PM

I haven't had any experience with any but the Sonata does come well recommended from SPCR and as the build won't produce a massive amount of heat.

The key to a quiet system is good component choice, the case just helps contain the noise.
September 22, 2012 1:51:28 PM

I'd forgotten all about Silent PC Review - fantastic site.

Will have a look at HDD and case reviews.

Thanks
September 22, 2012 2:24:26 PM

just something that caught my eye........ the mention of the Antec P182............ absolutely no air flow......... hot, steamy bread box........ don't waste time on it.

toss up on the cards..........

if building new........ and already don't have memory and want to add to what you have.......... yes, get the faster stuff. very inexpensive most of it.

September 22, 2012 2:31:03 PM

swifty_morgan said:
just something that caught my eye........ the mention of the Antec P182............ absolutely no air flow......... hot, steamy bread box........ don't waste time on it.


Really? Keeps my set up cool and quiet.
September 22, 2012 2:37:48 PM

@Swiftly - thanks for the input. Faster memory in 2 sticks is additional £10, will there be any benefit?

P182 seems fine to me - Q6600 runs at 30-50C, 6950 <70C at load. And it's incredibly quiet.
September 22, 2012 2:58:36 PM

metal orient said:
Really? Keeps my set up cool and quiet.



I've been around a lot of cases......... let's say we agree to disagree.......... ?
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